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Old 12-16-2009, 09:18 AM   #21
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Do the tires that are much harder affect the traction because Im fed up 2-3k tires?
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:06 AM   #22
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Online, Southwest Motorcycle Tire is about the best prices for name brand.

BUT

Desser does retreads - fully legal, fully tested - for less. http://shop.desser.com/IW_Products.m...&cat=MOTOTIRES

Even come in colors. Never tried them, so cannot speak for traction or wear. I HAVE tried Bridgestone 021's - dry traction OK, damp or wet traction - not good enough for me. I am replacing them.

HAVING SAID THAT - buy online, you gotta mount and balance. So, overall, use a forum sponsor to get what you want mounted and balanced at a decent price. They likely have some tires in stock that they can move price on.

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Old 12-16-2009, 10:53 AM   #23
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Do the tires that are much harder affect the traction because Im fed up 2-3k tires?
look at the new dual compound sport touring tires like the Roadsmart, BT021 and Pilot Road 2.. sport sides and hard center for more life.. more than enough grip for anything on the street.
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:54 AM   #24
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Check with Andy at STX. He has new and sometimes some take offs laying around. He will hook you up.
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look at the new dual compound sport touring tires like the Roadsmart, BT021 and Pilot Road 2.. sport sides and hard center for more life.. more than enough grip for anything on the street.
im looking at getting 021 for rear and 016 for front. they have a nice prictag on them compared to PR2. and from online research better grip than roadsmarts. but we will just have to see
<<---- torque loves to eat rear tires
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I've put quite a few guys on the 016 / 021 combo with good results.

One of my best friends runs it on his ZX10 that he commutes and Sunday rides on.
He's far from "conservative" and he's had no issues with traction.

The key to traction and tire life is keeping up with your air pressure.
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:33 AM   #27
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im looking at getting 021 for rear and 016 for front. they have a nice prictag on them compared to PR2. and from online research better grip than roadsmarts. but we will just have to see
<<---- torque loves to eat rear tires
I get 5K from the rear of the Bandit on regular Pilot Powers.. all about the "smoooooooooooooth" (and it made more torque down low than my buddies TLR on the same dyno)

From what I have seen in tests, the 021 finishes behind the other two, and the Dunlops seem to shine in the wet.

My new 12R has the Dunlops on it, and from the little riding I had a chance to do they seem predictable and as grippy as the regular Powers. I am kinda picky about feel and like the profile of the PP so we'll see how it goes.
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I had to make a quick trip to DFW yesterday, and also had time to have a quick conversation with one of my older friends who supports the area professional / amateur racers.

He made mention that the new Dunlop Q2 tires exceed the Michelin PP2CTs and that he was not at all a supportor of the Bridgestones BT series. He also said he had never been a fan of the Dunlops until this new Qualifier series was released. He also said that he will gladly sell people the Michelins (makes more money), but that the Dunlop is a far better tire (and cheaper than either of the others).

Anyone have experience with the Dunlop Q2 tires?
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They're fairly new so there's not a lot of data on them currently in terms of long term mileage.
Reviews on traction are pretty good but not any better than anything else out there.

The BT's still get my vote, they've gotten good mileage for a lot of people who watch their pressures and they're good enough that Brandon ran 1:53's with the tire on the rear of his SV last year at world.
Heck, I've even got them on my bikes.
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They're fairly new so there's not a lot of data on them currently in terms of long term mileage.
Reviews on traction are pretty good but not any better than anything else out there.

The BT's still get my vote, they've gotten good mileage for a lot of people who watch their pressures and they're good enough that Brandon ran 1:53's with the tire on the rear of his SV last year at world.
Heck, I've even got them on my bikes.
bt's got my vote too. great tire for the price.
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I got a bt016 120/180 for 200 plus tax.
Unfortunately, I need the 190 rear, and will most likely buy new for this guys bike. But thanks for the offer.

BTW, I have Bridgestone's on two of my bikes, and PP2CTs on the others. Ohhh... also D209s on the 7R from Patrick way back.
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Unfortunately, I need the 190 rear, and will most likely buy new for this guys bike. But thanks for the offer.

BTW, I have Bridgestone's on two of my bikes, and PP2CTs on the others. Ohhh... also D209s on the 7R from Patrick way back.

Have you noticed early cupping wear on the front of the PP2CT's?

And yeah, the 209's were a VERY long time ago!
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Have you noticed early cupping wear on the front of the PP2CT's?

And yeah, the 209's were a VERY long time ago!
No cupping issues on the PP2CTs to date. Hopefully they continue to do well, as I had them on the '06 600 and the '08 1000 as well as T's 1000.

The 209s were installed in '06 timeframe I believe.
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well FWIW i got the 016 front, 021 rear. my main usage is commute and i'll go nuts here and there... but mainly on the chilled side of the spectrum. just barely scrubbing it in but i'll see how they work

also there is a 180 on my rear, its cheaper.

and i got mine for cheap installed at ___
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I had BT016s installed front and rear yesterday at Motorcycles Unlimited. Patrick cut me a great deal on the tires with the awesome mount/balance price that all MH members enjoy.

My son rode the bike last night, and it is night and day difference from the old "square" Shenko Advance 005 on the rear and no-name tire on the front.

I did spend a little more than I would had I ordered on-line, but the mount/balance helps to offset some of those costs and I also like keeping my money in the local area.

The owner of the bike should be happy.
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I bought my bridgstone 180/55 bt016 for 140 total at 2wheels toys. Thats mounting and tax included. I shopped everywhere as well.
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