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Old 05-03-2006, 11:18 PM   #1
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I dont know too much about it besides that you can soften it and harden it, and same for the rebound. so if you can adjust it, then why is there a need for the expensive aftermarket suspension? does it let u lean over further and still hold good traction?
i noticed with me, theres a point where it feels like if i lean anymore the front will give. Just trying to figure out if its worth it and why.. some mechanics and how it works would help.
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Old 05-03-2006, 11:24 PM   #2
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adjustable suspention will allow you to adjust compression and rebound. that is, it let you adjust how quick it will compress and how quick it will extend. different trackas needs different settings, also your riding style will dictate the settings.

aftermarket suspention will give you an extra edge because of the parts used , they are of better quality and better designed, on a stock motorcycle the factory had to compromise because of cost issues, not so with aftermarket, that's why they are so expensive.

i hope this helps David.

google it, you will find tons of info.
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There are lots of questoins that could need to be answered before you start talking about suspension changes. I usually take my bikes by Patrick's shop and have him look them over and adjust the susupension for my weight. From there he usually has better ideas about what I am looking for and what solutions are available.
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From what I have gathered the front forks can be rebuilt with aftermarket components, this makes them almost as good as a set of aftermarket's but obviously will be missing some little stuff. The stock components aren't as flashy or bling, and might not be as refined but they can be tailored to handle, maybe at 1/2 or a 1/3 of the cost for an aftermarket setup.

The rear shock though has no substitute, if you take your curves and have fun an aftermarket shock would be a must. (Steve-O dropped two seconds with just a rear shock change out)
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From the factory most suspensions are a compromise.
They're designed to work in everything from cruising to sport riding, with anything from a 130 lb. solo rider to a combined weight of 350 or more with rider and passenger.
Kind of difficult to get optimal performance with that parameter.

Basically what we do when we redo a suspension is "custom tune" it to the riders weight, bike, and riding style.
For forks that involves anything from a simple fork spring & fluid swap, to replacing the rebound and compression valving or even the whole cartridge.

For the shock it typically involves replacing the shock, however, on some of todays more high performance bikes, respringing and revalving a stock shock can give comparable perfomance.

Your best bet is to have your stock suspension set up by a tuner.
From there we can advise you on any changes we would recommend based on your weight, useage, etc.

For most pure street riders, having the stock suspension properly set up on a lot of todays SS bikes is good enough.
However, if you are doing track days or racing, then having the suspension done is the most important thing you can do to make you go faster.
Hope this helped answer your question.

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my bike is a perfect example of what can be done with aftermarket suspension. all i can say is holy it makes a difference. its like the difference between sleeping on a cot or a waterbed. you can push the bike so much harder when you know it can handle.

as for how it works...read what he said ^ i have no clue, lol.
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Patrick said something that stuck in my head once. You only know the best you have tried. I am not a word wizard so it is difficult for me to explain things about suspension and the differences but, it is there. Oh boy is it there.
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ya this does help, i have some racetech internals for my front forks sitting in the garage, someone told me u can buy a racetech spring for the back shock for liek 130$ or something, wondering if thats worth it or an entire unit, either way, yes i need my suspension work done so ill be seeing you soon patrick, thanks
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Saw Patrick, and explained the issue and changed the rear spring, to a eibach. World of difference. Thanks Patrick.
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ya this does help, i have some racetech internals for my front forks sitting in the garage, someone told me u can buy a racetech spring for the back shock for liek 130$ or something, wondering if thats worth it or an entire unit, either way, yes i need my suspension work done so ill be seeing you soon patrick, thanks
Last thing you want to do is bottom out your suspesion mid turn and get to check out the dirt.
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