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Old 11-26-2009, 11:11 PM   #21
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The starter is bad most likely. It trys to turn over very slow it sounds like the battery is dead but it isn't.
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Old 11-27-2009, 12:16 AM   #22
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The starter is bad most likely. It trys to turn over very slow it sounds like the battery is dead but it isn't.
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With all the troubleshooting you have done there isn't much left to check. You said the commutator was a little discolored so it could be the wiring insulation has broken down.
When you check with an ohmeter it appears ok but, when you throw a heavy load on, it could be arcing internally and reducing the torque.
When you had the starter apart was there any burnt, nasty smell? Does it seem unusually hot after a start?
Maybe you could find one pretty cheap on the webz.
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:16 AM   #23
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The commutator was discolored porbably just residual byproduct of brushes wearing down. Service manual for checking armature/commutator only list a basic continuity check.

I was afraid it was the starter. Suzuki sells everything but the armature... Go figure. I'll wait and see if patrick has a spare one sitting around. Any good junk yards??
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:39 AM   #24
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What year is your scoot?

Oh and waiting for/PMing Patrick is a good idea.
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Old 11-27-2009, 12:30 PM   #25
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What year is your scoot?

Oh and waiting for/PMing Patrick is a good idea.
any year from 98-03 TLR and i think TLS's will work too
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:19 PM   #27
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thanks for the link, but i also found this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TL100...item4a9aecfc4e

now i have a brand new brush assembly. the person who mentioned the burning smell, yes i am very familiar with electrical burns and it did smell a bit burnt at the crossover point of armature/commutator

i was thinking i can buy that part and put my new brushes into it?

the culprit is the armature (correct if im wrong) and thats all i need. i mean the magnetic case is just a case, my brushes are new and i cant think of anything else. so i can either use the new/used part with my new brushes or just transfer the (new/used) armature into my case

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Old 12-22-2009, 03:48 PM   #28
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BUMP from the dead....

does anyone know the theory and operation of the starter torque limiter? symptoms of what happens when it goes out. service manual just tells me to test when/where it slips using a torque wrench with a special tool (not happening)

not much online and my service manual doesnt say much. from what i gatherered its basically a clutch that slips. from one post i've read (another forum, while i was researching) starter will turn (normal/fast) but motor will turn slow.

like a whoolie. slip it just right and there is plenty of power for it to come up. BUT slip it too much, motor revs and not much acceleration. (similarly to above)

what if it can fail the other way? like have it just freeze up? if we compare that to a whoolie vs starter it would be holding my starter motor back (aka slow crank) opinions?
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i have replaced starter, primary wire, and other stuff too (read back in the thread for that)
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:30 PM   #30
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STARTER CLUTCH ... removed the case cover, jumped the relay/solenoid and saw it with my own eyes i guess after 36xxx and whatever amounts of cranking it will go out. BUT. it would slip and grab for a split second, slip and grab for a split second, making it sound like a slow cranking condition. now i gotta drop the big money for another one... bout $200 new from stubbs. 160-170 from online OEM parts dealers. and 31.00 for i used one off ebay that came from a bike with 17xxx miles... and i called sam's already

of course with used parts there is possible that it is also worn like mine

as much as i dont want to i have to go with the used ebay one, school is coming up and after christmas just passing, funds be low . i also cant justify spending that amount on my POS bike (for those who have seen it, they know) bike is old school, slow (by todays standards getting outran by modern 600's FTL), and ugly, its also in need of other things too, and im already planning to cheat on her somewhere down the line

unless there is someone out there with a junked tl1000r/s with flywheel/starter clutch still intact?

anyway, just a little fyi update for those who care
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Oooh haha so your the guy that called me this
morning asking about the starter clutch. Did you call anywhere else looking for the starterclutch?
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:22 PM   #32
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LOL small world. No where else to call off the top of my head. Union cycles don't have good a selection of sport bikes. That's all I know of. Not too popular of a bike
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