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Old 11-23-2009, 02:00 PM   #1
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I have someone interested in trading a bike for my SV and it sounds like a pretty sweet deal and would probably do a straight trade. It will probably stay a dirt bike for a while but I would like the option of 'tarding it out eventually

It is a 2005 crf450x with about 25 hours on it. Here's some of the other stuff it has "Kibble white SS valves, new Weisco piston, Full Vapor computer (spedo,tach, temp, air temp, trip, time ride and lap. Also has a full (not slip on) DR D exhaust"

Now is there a reason to get the 450r over this? Any huge disadvantages/advantages I should know about? I know this will weigh more but it is also that much closer to being a street legal commuter bike which is a huge plus for me.

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Old 11-23-2009, 02:03 PM   #2
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It aint cheap to tard up. I would try and find one already done.

I always wanted a tard but as a second bike.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:14 PM   #3
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If you plan on streeting it, I would think X (they come plated correct?) BTW, I wouldn't commute unless you're ride is straight up Navarro. CRF don't like sustained high rpms.

Is the X in Victoria?
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:15 PM   #4
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Ya I know it's not cheap, I've priced most of it already. We have 60+ acres to play on so I'll be fine with it in dirt setup for the time being, just an over time project really. More looking for the advantages of a 450r vs a 450x. What's the major drawbacks or advantages to one or the other
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If you plan on streeting it, I would think X (they come plated correct?) BTW, I wouldn't commute unless you're ride is straight up Navarro. CRF don't like sustained high rpms.

Is the X in Victoria?
No not plated, at least not from the factory as far as I know since they're not fully dualsport. They have the light setup but no turn signals. And since he has the Vapor there would be my speedo, so I think maybe a couple hundred bucks and I would have a street legal ride. He has the title so I couldn't see it being too big of a headache

It's in Houston or somewhere right around the outskirts. It's a 281 number and said he could meet me halfway between Houston and Victoria.
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PM Tom aka Scorpio, he converted a 450x. To my knowledge, Xs are better to tard than Ride Smart. Basically because of the maintenance you'll have to do to the bike.
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Fair enough, just thought if Iit was in Victoria, and you were going to look at it this weekend (I'll be in town), a second set of eyes wouldn't hurt.
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PM Tom aka Scorpio, he converted a 450x. To my knowledge, Xs are better to tard than Ride Smart. Basically because of the maintenance you'll have to do to the bike.
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Fair enough, just thought if Iit was in Victoria, and you were going to look at it this weekend (I'll be in town), a second set of eyes wouldn't hurt.
I appreciate that. I wish it was down here, would definitely make it easier
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Well, if its up around here, shoot me a PM, I might be able to break free, or can give you the name of a few folks I would recommend taking with you.
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The biggest problem on the X models are the titanium valves which it sounds like they have already addressed. I've put about 1500 miles on mine with a couple track days mixed in and have'nt had any problems. Mine still has the stock valves also, the SS valves are supposed to be less of a problem.
As long as you keep them within spec, you shouldn't have any issues.
As far as differences go between the R and X go, the R has a more aggresive cam and a close ratio tranny. The X is better suited for road use for this reason as well as having electric start. I haven't lined mine up against an R, but Jody says the R will get off the corners faster if you plan on using it for supermoto. There are a lot of X owners and good info on www.crfsonly.com.

Good luck. Great bikes for sure.
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I'll deffinitely keep you in mind for checking it out Jason, thanks for the offer.

He said he would meet me halfway to Victoria, but I may see if he is willing to meet me at Motorcycles Unlimited so they can take a look-see at both of our bikes. Just so we know we both aren't getting shafted. We'll see

Thanks for that firsthand there Scorpio, appreciate it. And thanks for the site too, time to go research some more!
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I would have recommended that first but wasn't sure you desire to travel.
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i jus went through all that hassle trying to convert n 05 crf 450 r to street legal supermoto, i got it track ready but when it came to setting up lighting baja design is basically the only option i could find that had everything and baja headlights n taillights dont look sweet +stator has to be rewound and some other bulshit relating to lighting, and then the shop tells me after i do that i gotta gett the head set up different cause cruising with that mototr apparently destroys it, even wit ss valves, i guess its made to be wot or no throttle but anyways if u want to ride sm n play in the dirt with the same bike i just got a 04 drz 400e completly converted n i rip up n down 610 n 59 at a 100mph n it throws down in the dirt too
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