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Old 11-16-2009, 01:50 PM   #41
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ed, you should try out a 190/55 next tire change. same profile as a 180/55, but the contact patch size of the 190. made a pretty big difference on my zx-10.
yeah, i was thinking about it but
1) i like michelin pilot roads and they don't make it in that size
2) most sport touring tires don't come in that size and i'm wanting S/T to get more mileage
3) i got the 180 cuz i was at the north end of "the gap" and had a "not a bald tire" but a rapidly thinning rear, but a tire i didn't feel would make it another 800mo ride to home, almost an emergency tire. so not only did i get a tire i really didn't want, i got to pay alot for it $235 installed.
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Awesome! You guys have successfully convinced the OP that a 190 rear is the reason he can't stay in his lane, at 80mph, on 59 at westpark.
That's fVcking awesome right there.
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Not the only reason, but a 190 on a 160 setup sure doesn't help the situation at all. Believe trackdays, MSF, tire pressure, etc have been mentioned.

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Awesome! You guys have successfully convinced the OP that a 190 rear is the reason he can't stay in his lane, at 80mph, on 59 at westpark.
Not at all. But a contributing factor? Yes. And I stayed in my lane! just not as well as I would have liked. I think the title "ran a bit wide" was misleading. More like, it got squirelly on me, so I shut the throttle, pushing me over. I'm going to work on body position a lot. What I would like from you guys, is a PSI recommendation for the current tires, and a PSI for the 180/55 I will attempt to get over the next few days. Possible some one to give me hints on proper body position.
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Not at all. But a contributing factor? Yes. And I stayed in my lane! just not as well as I would have liked. I think the title "ran a bit wide" was misleading. More like, it got squirelly on me, so I shut the throttle, pushing me over. I'm going to work on body position a lot.
Maybe I misread looked like you started on the inside of you lane. Drifted across your lane..into the next lane then almost into the 3rd lane.
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Not at all. But a contributing factor? Yes. And I stayed in my lane! just not as well as I would have liked. I think the title "ran a bit wide" was misleading. More like, it got squirelly on me, so I shut the throttle, pushing me over. I'm going to work on body position a lot. What I would like from you guys, is a PSI recommendation for the current tires, and a PSI for the 180/55 I will attempt to get over the next few days. Possible some one to give me hints on proper body position.
Post a pic of your current tire on the bike.
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and or each tires exact specs...max psi should also be listed on the sidewall
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Not at all. But a contributing factor? Yes. And I stayed in my lane! just not as well as I would have liked. I think the title "ran a bit wide" was misleading. More like, it got squirelly on me, so I shut the throttle, pushing me over. I'm going to work on body position a lot. What I would like from you guys, is a PSI recommendation for the current tires, and a PSI for the 180/55 I will attempt to get over the next few days. Possible some one to give me hints on proper body position.
AT MOST 36/36 for street use. You mentioned you have different tire brands on the front and rear. Well, each tire has a different optimum street pressure. It would help if you could say for sure which tire you had. Example: Bridgestone BT003R/S

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The 160 tire size is recommended for a reason

BUT, the issue here is you being inexperienced, go to a few trackdays, I would suggest getting the correct tire size first though. You should have absolutely no trouble with that turn at that speed, period.
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When you consider that putting a 190 on a bike designed for a 180 can make a HUGE difference in how the bike handles, I don't think it is much of a jump to think that putting a 190 on a rim intended for a 160 would cause some serious issues.
Sure you can blame a squirrely feeling on the rider but the bike just might have something to do with it. Especially when the bike has been set up incorrectly by an inexperienced owner.

MurderFace you should stop trying to go cheap on tires, i.e. mixing brands and picking random widths, looking for takeoffs etc.
Go buy yourself a good quality set of tires, at least the correct size for your wheels, even if they are diff brands. All the checking tire pressures and tsking MSF or doing trackdays will do you little good until your bike is closer to being set up correctly.

If you don't want to believe me, call Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited (a site sponsor). He will give you the real story and help you out. I'm serious bro this could make a big difference in how your bike works.
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I took MSF back in June or so. I learnt a lot, but it's more emergency maneuvers and basic skills. I will take the advanced course soon. A track day is definitely in the future.
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When you consider that putting a 190 on a bike designed for a 180 can make a HUGE difference in how the bike handles, I don't think it is much of a jump to think that putting a 190 on a rim intended for a 160 would cause some serious issues.
Sure you can blame a squirrely feeling on the rider but the bike just might have something to do with it. Especially when the bike has been set up incorrectly by an inexperienced owner.

MurderFace you should stop trying to go cheap on tires, i.e. mixing brands and picking random widths, looking for takeoffs etc.
Go buy yourself a good quality set of tires, at least the correct size for your wheels, even if they are diff brands. All the checking tire pressures and tsking MSF or doing trackdays will do you little good until your bike is closer to being set up correctly.

If you don't want to believe me, call Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited (a site sponsor). He will give you the real story and help you out. I'm serious bro this could make a big difference in how your bike works.
yeah, i agree, the 190 on a rim which is probably 4.5" wide is just asking for trouble. there's going to be major sidewall deflection causing any number of problems. you need to stay away from take-off's. they're aren't good for street use to begin with. factor in the wrong size and it's a recipe for disaster.
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Push right, go right. Try to stay at the same angle as the bike while leaning. Look where you want to go, not at what you're trying to avoid.
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i have taken that turn near topped out.....get some more experience under your belt before you get hurt
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yeah, i agree, the 190 on a rim which is probably 4.5" wide is just asking for trouble. there's going to be major sidewall deflection causing any number of problems. you need to stay away from take-off's. they're aren't good for street use to begin with. factor in the wrong size and it's a recipe for disaster.
Explain please?
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