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Old 11-16-2009, 10:39 AM   #21
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its likely squirelly cuz you're crossed up. Your hands are telling the bike to lean in further, but your body is telling the bike to stand up. A sweeper like that at 80 should be dead-nuts easy to hold a line on. When I say hold a line, I mean hold a line. Not use even half of ONE lane.
I agree with you, for once.

According to this guys profile, he has 4-8 months experience and we are going to tell him it could be the bike? Way to make excuses for him. But I'll go ahead a lay down a few paychecks that I could make it hold a line..at 100mph, as well as a load of other people on this forum.

Those kind of bullshit posts, in a serious thread, where a dude could have got killed, make me cringe.

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Old 11-16-2009, 12:09 PM   #22
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no way you should take that turn wide. thats a huge sweeper and sure some people can take it at 120+ but do ride at your skill level and dont rush things. oh and why are you tucked in at 80mph
I'm 6'3 and only have half a wind screen, previous owner decided it would look cooler? Only tucked in for the turn.
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and if you're on 59 north, the middle lanes has lots of oil AND a small gap which could freak you out a little the first few times while the left-most lane (lest tight) is clean.
I was in the lane to the right of the left lane, I got over for the turn.
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That squirrely feeling can be caused by tire pressures as well as wind. If your tire pressures were off by 5 or more pounds you can defintely feel it.
With more experience you can feel even less incorrect pressure.

Seriously riding to the point you are inducing the pucker factor is an indication you are reaching the limits of your skill. Increasing skill will allow faster riding but you should consider the parallel with a video game.
It keeps getting harder and harder until you lose. Of course the reset button doesn't always work in real life.
I'm 180 lbs, always set the tires at 37/42 cold, plus or minus 1/2 PSI since even moving the bike into the sun will cause the tires to gain 1-1.5 PSI, and the temps been fluctuating quite a bit these past few days. It's a pain to add or take out just 1-2 PSI daily. But I do check it daily.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:17 PM   #23
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What kind of tires are you running 37/42 on? I've never heard of anything over 36/36 for street.
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What kind of tires are you running 37/42 on? I've never heard of anything over 36/36 for street.
That's what the bike calls for. 120/70 on the front, 190/50 on the rear but the stock tire size is 160/60.
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That's what the bike calls for. 120/70 on the front, 190/50 on the rear but the stock tire size is 160/60.
Who told you that? What kind of tires are they?
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Who told you that? What kind of tires are they?
The sticker with the VIN and factory specs on it. I think the rear is a Bridgestone and the front is a Pirelli.
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its likely squirelly cuz you're crossed up. Your hands are telling the bike to lean in further, but your body is telling the bike to stand up. A sweeper like that at 80 should be dead-nuts easy to hold a line on. When I say hold a line, I mean hold a line. Not use even half of ONE lane.
agreed. it's usually not the bike, but the rider. do a trackday, stop trying to go faster on the streets. next time you go wide you could end up going over the side of the freeway.
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Are you running a 190 on the stock rim, meant for a 160? If so, you are distorting the profile badly, which will add to a loose feeling in the rear.
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That's what the bike calls for. 120/70 on the front, 190/50 on the rear but the stock tire size is 160/60.
WOW, that plus your inexperience are why you ran wide. get your tire back to OE asap, and do a trackday.

my bike came w/ a 190/50, i'm running a 180/55
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With all due respect, this entire thread scares me. The slight curve on 59 at West Park can't really be considered a corner can it?

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I have no idea what a MSF course addresses, but would recommend that you take it. OR, a track day. If you have had no instruction, it is the best place to get it. There is no pressure to go fast and that one day could save your life. Ridesmart has an event at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on 11/28.

Take this from someone that has been riding for over 20 years, but did not become competent until after riding on the track.
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I know that the wider rear tire isn't helping with traction at all. Going wider without a wider wheel will cause the tire to deform. I just didn't think it would make that much of a negative impact on cornering. To be honest, I was going to wait till it wore out then get a takeoff for cheap from someone. I'll start looking around.
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Pinching the wider tire makes it into more of a triangle rather than the rounded profile it was designed with. Makes it want to wiggle and fall into the turn more. Also too much pressure makes it worse. Try 34-35 in the rear for now.
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running wide on the streets is usually what fighter pilots like to call a "self critiquing manouver" Lots of people don't make it past the first time.

Sounds like it's the perfect time to dial it down on the streets and find your way to a trackday.
Plus one, the freeway is no place to pratice, too many lifes are at stake.
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Dude...if you are running wide...at 80mph there...you have issues.

Slow down or do some track days.

I know. I used to be just like you.
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With all due respect, this entire thread scares me. The slight curve on 59 at West Park can't really be considered a corner can it?

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I have no idea what a MSF course addresses, but would recommend that you take it. OR, a track day. If you have had no instruction, it is the best place to get it. There is no pressure to go fast and that one day could save your life. Ridesmart has an event at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on 11/28.

Take this from someone that has been riding for over 20 years, but did not become competent until after riding on the track.
MSF and trackdays will make that curve straighten up.
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WOW, that plus your inexperience are why you ran wide. get your tire back to OE asap, and do a trackday.

my bike came w/ a 190/50, i'm running a 180/55
ed, you should try out a 190/55 next tire change. same profile as a 180/55, but the contact patch size of the 190. made a pretty big difference on my zx-10.
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Can't really find any take offs smaller than 180/55. I may just buy a cheap $25 180/55, see what kinda difference it makes.
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Awesome! You guys have successfully convinced the OP that a 190 rear is the reason he can't stay in his lane, at 80mph, on 59 at westpark.
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