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Old 11-16-2009, 02:12 AM   #1
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ran a bit wide on the freeway

I was on 59 north, on that long sweeping turn right there near Westpark. Was going about 80, ran a bit wide but I made sure the lane to my left was open before I got to the turn, just to be safe. I started in the right of my lane, ended almost on the lane bumps on the left, stayed in the lane though. I was leaned over as much as I felt it was safe, the bike started feeling a bit squirelly so I straightened up a bit. I was tucked about halfway, not quite laying on the tank, but out of the wind. Hopefully someone is familiar with that turn. Do I need to grow some and lean in more, or was that pretty much as fast as I could have taken it, given my speed and the turn? Maybe I hit a little crosswind, and that's why it felt squirelly?
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:40 AM   #2
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no way you should take that turn wide. thats a huge sweeper and sure some people can take it at 120+ but do ride at your skill level and dont rush things. oh and why are you tucked in at 80mph
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:54 AM   #3
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80 is actually quite safe. Even if you're not hanging off the bike you'd still have plenty of clearance.

On the 919 (some claims this has clearance issues) I've never been anywhere near scraping any metal or even knee pucks at 110+ and I'm not even moving my buff to the sides, just hip and head positioning was enough.

But we all know you need to ride within your limits. See the oil strip in the center? You need to be able to ride through the curve on either side of the oil strip (i.e. using only half the lane) and stay comfortable within that "narrower lane" before you should think about going through it faster.

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Old 11-16-2009, 02:59 AM   #4
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:00 AM   #5
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there are similar big sweepers like that on 290 west 5-10mi outside the belt 8 too I think. 120+ on those was pretty awesome. This I'm sure. The bend on 59 near westpark exit might be tighter.
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:02 AM   #6
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and if you're on 59 north, the middle lanes has lots of oil AND a small gap which could freak you out a little the first few times while the left-most lane (lest tight) is clean.
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im no pro but go back and try the same road, this time increase speed +10/15+ mph, and open throttle thru the turn


ooOO be careful, 59/ westpark have a slight dip if your going southbound, i pass that area at 110mph in the third lane (left to right) and soon as i hit the dip the bike tank slapped for a good 3 seconds. be caution, these streets sucks!!!
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You should definitely get more comfortable with leaning....learning on the freeway first is not the way to go. Get in an empty parking lot and feel how much you can lean the bike.
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Dude...if you are running wide...at 80mph there...you have issues.

Slow down or do some track days.

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I was on 59 north, on that long sweeping turn right there near Westpark. Was going about 80, ran a bit wide but I made sure the lane to my left was open before I got to the turn, just to be safe. I started in the right of my lane, ended almost on the lane bumps on the left, stayed in the lane though. I was leaned over as much as I felt it was safe, the bike started feeling a bit squirelly so I straightened up a bit. I was tucked about halfway, not quite laying on the tank, but out of the wind. Hopefully someone is familiar with that turn. Do I need to grow some and lean in more, or was that pretty much as fast as I could have taken it, given my speed and the turn? Maybe I hit a little crosswind, and that's why it felt squirelly?
I take my F-150 through there at 80. I am pretty sure a motorcycle should have no problem. 100% agree the freeway is not the place to learn.
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That squirrely feeling can be caused by tire pressures as well as wind. If your tire pressures were off by 5 or more pounds you can defintely feel it.
With more experience you can feel even less incorrect pressure.

Seriously riding to the point you are inducing the pucker factor is an indication you are reaching the limits of your skill. Increasing skill will allow faster riding but you should consider the parallel with a video game.
It keeps getting harder and harder until you lose. Of course the reset button doesn't always work in real life.
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running wide on the streets is usually what fighter pilots like to call a "self critiquing manouver" Lots of people don't make it past the first time.

Sounds like it's the perfect time to dial it down on the streets and find your way to a trackday.
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It might be your bike.

My 99 R6 used to run me wide all day long, and it wasn't the rider.

I rode an R1 the other day with a low front tire and the suspension set as stock and almost crashed in the neibhorhood at the speed limit... And uh I can ride, maybe it's the yamaha... Ha

Check your tire pressure and everything else, go get your suspension proffesionally checked. You'd be amazed.
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its likely squirelly cuz you're crossed up. Your hands are telling the bike to lean in further, but your body is telling the bike to stand up. A sweeper like that at 80 should be dead-nuts easy to hold a line on. When I say hold a line, I mean hold a line. Not use even half of ONE lane.
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It might be your bike.

My 99 R6 used to run me wide all day long, and it wasn't the rider.

I rode an R1 the other day with a low front tire and the suspension set as stock and almost crashed in the neibhorhood at the speed limit... And uh I can ride, maybe it's the yamaha... Ha

Check your tire pressure and everything else, go get your suspension proffesionally checked. You'd be amazed.
Just bought a new bike a couple months ago as soon as I went out to some back roads realized the bike was sketchy as going in turn I would go in and out the back made me miserable about the purchase well checked tire pressure after two weeks ( had new tires put on assumed it was good) I was at half the psi. After I aired up the tires it felt like a completely different bike from dam tires....
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