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Old 11-12-2009, 11:14 AM   #121
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:32 AM   #125
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I voted for a BOD in the CMRA that would vote on my behalf to allow other schools to race license riders. The idea of that, (lost in this post) is to allow as many riders as possible into the sport, and drive the success and growth of the CMRA, necessary for all of us to race.

In my opinion, and to Mac mans point, I don't believe RideSmart will see this influx of racers entering their new CMRA licensing program base solely on this BOD decision, without addressing the fundamental problem as I see it.

There is a large ongoing communication effort that must happen in parallel.(Marketing if you will)

As a rider that just started two seasons ago. I had the invaluable benefit of leveraging a couple of people who happen to be instructors, one from each school, (Ride Smart/LSTD) Finding myself being able to ask unlimited questions of someone who absolutely knew the answer. In retrospect, I'm not sure I would be a licensed CMRA racer today without the input from both these riders. (Thx, you know who you are)

That said, my experience was, the road is not clear. There is documentation on the CMRA website explaining the necessary steps to get your CMRA license. However, they leave so many questions unanswered as you work through the details. The one large one that was asked earlier in this post. When as a rider is my skill level enough to compete in the CMRA? I think John got it right. When you can safely circulate with a group at race pace. We all know there is an entirely different pace in a race than seen at most trackdays.

I have personally supported many questions from riders coming into track riding asking when they are ready for CMRA racing? They attended a trackday or two, an instructor has told them they should move up into L2,,,L3,,,its time to race! (?)

My point is, we as a community have an opportunity we should take. This is the time to make the process clear, safe, and successful. No one is gonna get rich here, and from a riders point of view these are both great trackday orginizations. Dragging each other through the mud when an opportunity presents it self is pointless. The effort should be toward the positive goal.

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Old 11-13-2009, 09:39 AM   #126
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I voted for a BOD in the CMRA that would vote on my behalf to allow other schools to race license riders. The idea of that, (lost in this post) is to allow as many riders as possible into the sport, and drive the success and growth of the CMRA, necessary for all of us to race.

In my opinion, and to Mac mans point, I don't believe RideSmart will see this influx of racers entering their new CMRA licensing program base solely on this BOD decision, without addressing the fundamental problem as I see it.

There is a large ongoing communication effort that must happen in parallel.(Marketing if you will)

As a rider that just started two seasons ago. I had the invaluable benefit of leveraging a couple of people who happen to be instructors, one from each school, (Ride Smart/LSTD) Finding myself being able to ask unlimited questions of someone who absolutely knew the answer. In retrospect, I'm not sure I would be a licensed CMRA racer today without the input from both these riders. (Thx, you know who you are)

That said, my experience was, the road is not clear. There is documentation on the CMRA website explaining the necessary steps to get your CMRA license. However, they leave so many questions unanswered as you work through the details. The one large one that was asked earlier in this post. When as a rider is my skill level enough to compete in the CMRA? I think John got it right. When you can safely circulate with a group at race pace. We all know there is an entirely different pace in a race than seen at most trackdays.

I have personally supported many questions from riders coming into track riding asking when they are ready for CMRA racing? They attended a trackday or two, an instructor has told them they should move up into L2,,,L3,,,its time to race! (?)

My point is, we as a community have an opportunity we should take. This is the time to make the process clear, safe, and successful. No one is gonna get rich here, and from a riders point of view these are both great trackday orginizations. Dragging each other through the mud when an opportunity presents it self is pointless. The effort should be toward the positive goal.

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