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Old 11-11-2009, 11:51 AM   #61
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Good to know...The instructor i had both times was a CMRA racer i am not saying what he showed was wrong or right but i understand what your saying.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:12 PM   #62
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Nothing wrong w/ the lines they teach for TD riding but it is sometimes downright unsafe when in a group of racers.
Which is exactly why I don't stress "lines" but put more emphasis on decisions.

A rider focused on riding a "racing line" too often fails to consider their options and then cannot pass (safely/aggressively/etc) when desired.
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Most "instructors" teach crappy lines these days. Because most "instructors" never raced or weren't that good at it.

Nothing wrong w/ the lines they teach for TD riding but it is sometimes downright unsafe when in a group of racers.
Yeah but it is too bad that when you doin the round robin and we are supposed to follow the lines a lot of the people behind the leader will try and follow the lines he goes on even if they are bad causing a lot of problems when you get to the open sessions. .. Like you said most people don't know proper lines but if they get shown them then they will atleast try and hit the proper points.
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I wouldn't beat the dead horse Henry if that tired "we don't profit" card wasn't played all the time.

If your boys get their shyt together and get the ability to license, they'll find out really quickly how non-profit it really is.

Congrats on showing your ignorance... again.
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If your boys get their shyt together and get the ability to license, they'll find out really quickly how non-profit it really is.

Congrats on showing your ignorance... again.
I'm reporting this post!!!
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Does it really have anything to do with licensing? Its just the difference in cost for a track day....plain and simple.

LSTD+CMRA free= > Ride Smart+CMRA fee =

right?
It depends how you look at the glass.

$135 (Ride Smart TWS (Texas World Speedway) fee)/5.5 sessions = 24.55 per session

$170 (LSTD TWS (Texas World Speedway) fee)/7 sessions = 24.29 per session
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Does it really have anything to do with licensing? Its just the difference in cost for a track day....plain and simple.

LSTD+CMRA free= > Ride Smart+CMRA fee =

right?
Pretty much

150+CMRA fee > 135+CMRA fee = $$$

This is based on TWS (Texas World Speedway) 2009 regular prices. Lets not get the less people, more people, better instructors blah blah blah.

CMRA Fee may change for next year or they may decide to do something different.
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It depends how you look at the glass.

$135 (Ride Smart TWS (Texas World Speedway) fee)/5.5 sessions = 24.55 per session

$170 (LSTD TWS (Texas World Speedway) fee)/7 sessions = 24.29 per session
Price was 150 the whole year
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Sweet Jesus can we get some honesty up in this biznatch!

This thread is about happenings from the BOD meeting. But while we are on the subject...

Track goes hot at 8am at TWS (Texas World Speedway). Last session is 4-5pm with 12-1 off for lunch and parade laps.

Total sessions 8 as long as the wrecks arent outrageous. And I think that is the same for the other orgs.

I need to scroll back and see where this thread got off track of the BOD mtg and on the track of track day org comparisons.
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Price was 150 the whole year
man, that just helps my equation (which has the crash variable added into it). Stop before we get in trouble by the post police.

It really matters none to me....I just like to see these guys get all worked up over a whopping one time extra $30 you gotta spend.
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How bad/hard is it getting licensed on a track you've never riding? Is the evaluation a whole day affair or just a few sessions?

BTW, can I ride a 525 Motard in both motard classes?
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How bad/hard is it getting licensed on a track you've never riding? Is the evaluation a whole day affair or just a few sessions?

BTW, can I ride a 525 Motard in both motard classes?
When I got my license, I learned the track on saturday and got my license, then raced on sunday.
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I need to scroll back and see where this thread got off track of the BOD mtg and on the track of track day org comparisons.
I'll save you the trouble....lol

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Peter..

The TRACK DAY fee is where the profit is... not the licensing school. You have to wade through the "spin" when people say they dont "profit from the licensing school". That is a true statement.

But, the track day charge, that you have to pay, to take the licensing class, well... you're no dummy. If I recall, you have a masters degree from Rice University.

Me, I'm just a lawn boy.
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When I got my license, I learned the track on saturday and got my license, then raced on sunday.
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man, that just helps my equation (which has the crash variable added into it). Stop before we get in trouble by the post police.

It really matters none to me....I just like to see these guys get all worked up over a whopping one time extra $30 you gotta spend.
Oh yeah, this one will get you banned from Brandt and Jimmy's site!
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I'll save you the trouble....lol
Thanks! Cuz I though it was this "play on words" below.

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Peter, just to clarify (again), LSTD provides this service free of charge to the CMRA, we don't (didn't) profit from the licensing school.
Organizations that take on this project with expectations of making any money need not apply, it just doesn't happen.
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