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Old 11-10-2009, 08:40 PM   #41
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Right now the BOD is looking into how this program will be administered.
Each track day organization will apply to teach the riders school.
They will submit their designated candidates to be reviewed, approved, and sent off to C.R.I. (certified race instructor) school. Each candidate will be trained on the materials and processes for licensing. There are many things to work out.

Materials, test, certificate, t-shirt, fees, and mini licensing.
We are also trying to come up with someone to administer this program.
As we get closer to these answers we'll let you know.
The new BOD members will be "seated" in their positions some time in mid December and we can hammer out the details before the end of 2009.
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More schools teaching the CMRA curriculum is a good thing. Although bad for the few who profited (please don't take that as a bad word...it's capitalism and I love it) from it, it's better for the sport in general.

There are a huge number of hurdles that keep even competent folks off the track. Reducing those hurdles helps the sport. I'll even argue that safety wiring and all the bike prep could be reduced to a very thorough pre-race inspection by the CMRA and they would get a ton more racers on the grid. Make licenses more available, reduce cost, provide rental leathers thru vendors, make the message board open to non-CMRA members....

Just my $.02, no need to flame me.
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More schools teaching the CMRA curriculum is a good thing. Although bad for the few who profited (please don't take that as a bad word...it's capitalism and I love it) from it, it's better for the sport in general.
Peter, just to clarify (again), LSTD provides this service free of charge to the CMRA, we don't (didn't) profit from the licensing school.

Organizations that take on this project with expectations of making any money need not apply, it just doesn't happen.
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Peter..

The TRACK DAY fee is where the profit is... not the licensing school. You have to wade through the "spin" when people say they dont "profit from the licensing school". That is a true statement.

But, the track day charge, that you have to pay, to take the licensing class, well... you're no dummy. If I recall, you have a masters degree from Rice University.

Me, I'm just a lawn boy.
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[QUOTE=tomLSTD;2305846]That was in place several years ago but went away because folks had sub-standard replacements and it defeats the purpose of the program.[QUOTE]

yeah bringing your own replacement wouldnt be a good idea.
i was suggesting paying the cost of the people CMRA chooses,and no its not a big deal but would help in time crunches such as the one im in now....
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Peter..

The TRACK DAY fee is where the profit is... not the licensing school. You have to wade through the "spin" when people say they dont "profit from the licensing school". That is a true statement.

But, the track day charge, that you have to pay, to take the licensing class, well... you're no dummy. If I recall, you have a masters degree from Rice University.

Me, I'm just a lawn boy.
then bring your to my house and do some tree trimming for me.
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then bring your to my house and do some tree trimming for me.
Why? You can't reach it?
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Why? You can't reach it?
no, i'm not even tall enough to push the mower T has to do the lawn each week
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Hey guys, i was wondering what the experience level was like in the provo novice or graduated novice level of CMRA races. I have done a few track days and rode L1 moved up to L2 now but am not sure if i have the experience to start racing. I dont care about winning or losing i care about riding. Just was wondering when yall who actively race think a good time to start moving into the CMRA world.

Right now I cant afford the price for everything (least not well i am finishing my masters) but once done with school i would love to get into racing. Just wondering. Thanks for the info.
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Hey guys, i was wondering what the experience level was like in the provo novice or graduated novice level of CMRA races. I have done a few track days and rode L1 moved up to L2 now but am not sure if i have the experience to start racing. I dont care about winning or losing i care about riding. Just was wondering when yall who actively race think a good time to start moving into the CMRA world.

Right now I cant afford the price for everything (least not well i am finishing my masters) but once done with school i would love to get into racing. Just wondering. Thanks for the info.
If you want to race, then you need to be racing. There are slow guys out there and there are REALLY fast guys out there. I wouldn't worry so much about the speed as much as holding your line and being smooth. If your not smooth (one line through a corner) then you are dangerous / difficult to pass. That can cause issues. If your going through the corner slow but with one imput on the bars and one line through the corner, then a faster rider can pass you cleanly and easily.
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If you want to race, then you need to be racing. There are slow guys out there and there are REALLY fast guys out there. I wouldn't worry so much about the speed as much as holding your line and being smooth. If your not smooth (one line through a corner) then you are dangerous / difficult to pass. That can cause issues. If your going through the corner slow but with one imput on the bars and one line through the corner, then a faster rider can pass you cleanly and easily.
Thanks for the info and heads up...I have been told by many of the Ride Smart instructors that i rode/ had follow me on track days that i have good lines and great transitions along with being smooth. Body position was something i had to work on and fixed that problem already. (I know its just a track day weekend) But i got smoothest rider (although L1) for a Ride Smart track day as well. Riding out in the street i have been complemented on my lines....Thanks for the input...all levels of racers out there then in novice and speed is not as important as skill. Good to know thanks. I plan on doing as many track days as i can next season with Ride Smart (LSTD are expensive lol but if i can aford them i'll be there) in hopes to improve alot more and be ready for 2011 season. Thanks again
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Remember, back in the day if you wanted to get on the track you were racing. There werent track days, you just got to jump into racing to see if you like it. You already have more experience that I did when I started racing. If you have the passion...go for it.
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I wouldn't beat the dead horse Henry if that tired "we don't profit" card wasn't played all the time.

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Thanks guys. Looks like i'll start saving up for another bike so i can properly track out my 636. Hope to see yall at the races in the corners (hoping to corner work as many races as i can)
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Most "instructors" teach crappy lines these days. Because most "instructors" never raced or weren't that good at it.

Nothing wrong w/ the lines they teach for TD riding but it is sometimes downright unsafe when in a group of racers.
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