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Old 11-05-2009, 07:44 PM   #1
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Arrow the heads are rolling at Ducati

First Livio Suppo of Ducati MotoGP
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This weekend's Valencia MotoGP season finale will mark the last race in Ducati colours for Livio Suppo, the Italian factory's MotoGP project manager.

Suppo is leaving Ducati to embark on a 'new professional adventure', rumoured to be with a rival MotoGP team (is this picture of Suppo with a Honda employee, taken at Valencia on Thursday, purely a coincidence?).

As well as a potential role at Honda, Jorge Lorenzo's side of the Fiat Yamaha garage is also in need of a new team manager for 2010, following Daniele Romagnoli's decision to step back to a more hands-on role.

Romagnoli is also yet to announce where he is going, although the apparent spilt between Andrea Dovizioso and Repsol Honda crew chief Pete Benson is his most obvious destination.

Suppo has been with Ducati since 1999 and involved in its MotoGP project from the very beginning, culminating in world championship glory for Casey Stoner in 2007.

“Livio has meant a great deal to Ducati and also to me personally; he has been a loyal and valuable colleague but above all a great friend,” commented Claudio Domenicali, general director of Ducati.

“We are very sorry that he has decided to leave the company but, in light of his correctness, professionalism and the great contribution he has made to the growth and success of the MotoGP project and the Ducati brand, we can only offer him our very best wishes as he takes on a new professional challenge.”

Suppo's departure had been rumoured (and denied) at the recent Sepang round, where speculation suggested he would be replaced by Vittoriano Guareschi - apparently on the grounds that the factory test rider would be more appealing to Valentino Rossi ahead of an attempt by Ducati to sign the reigning seven time MotoGP champion for 2011.

Other rumours suggested a fall-out between Suppo and Stoner.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/154...ts_ducati.html
now Davide Tardozzi of Ducati WSBK
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Factory Ducati World Superbike team boss Davide Tardozzi has confirmed that he is leaving the company.

The news comes hot on the heels of a similar shock departure by Ducati's MotoGP team boss Livio Suppo.

Suppo is expected to move to a rival MotoGP team, with Honda the most hotly tipped, but Tardozzi - whose riders Noriyuki Haga and Michel Fabrizio finished second and third in the 2009 WSBK championship - claims he has no plans in place.

“It was a painful decision. You cannot leave a company with whom you have worked exceptionally for almost 20 years without feeling regret,” Tardozzi told GPone.com.

“I was losing motivation and therefore thought it appropriate to notify Ducati of my decision in time to prepare my replacement before the new season.

“I will remain in racing only if I am offered something important. And so far nothing has come up. Otherwise I will get on with other activities outside of motorcycling. But racing is still my world.”

Tardozzi won five races for Bimota on his way to third overall during the inaugural 1988 season of WSBK competition.

Later turning to team management with Ducati, he oversaw a period of unprecedented Ducati success with title victories for Carl Fogarty (4), Troy Bayliss (3), Troy Corser (1), Neil Hodgson (1) and James Toseland (1).

This year, Tardozzi faced criticism for apparently not imposing team orders on Fabrizio to help Haga's title challenge, but it is unknown if that was a significant factor in his exit.

Haga and Fabrizio will both remain with the Ducati Xerox Team in 2010.
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both jumping before they were pushed imo
Suppo made small of Stoners "problems" and then was instrumental in the huge offer put to Lorenzo that eclipsed Stoners salary
Tardozzi allowed Fabrizio's ego to get in the way of a possible championship

sad to see Suppo leave, he always spoke frankly but good riddance to Tardozzi
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No team orders would have kept Haga from crashing in Utah, getting hit by a bird and breaking a shoulder blade.

that. I wish people would stop blaming others some someone fails to win a championship.


I'd like to see what sort of clauses are in the contracts for team orders. For a rookie to give up a first win in the last year of his contract.. No way.

You don't race for 2nd place. And having this on your race resume come contract time ain't going to fly...

Race Wins: 0 (but I could have won a few - team orders :( )


There had better be a clause for like 1MM Euros each time you let him pass you cuz it does nothing for your career.

I was jumping for Joy when Gabor beat Kallio despite explicit team orders at KTM on 125s. Kallio lost the championship by 4 points. Gabor's fault? Nope.. Kallio crashed in the penultimate race.

Gabor was tossed but went on to win the 125 championship with another team. KTMs loss.

/rant over


I don't see either Suppo or Tardozi anywhere near as valuable as a Jeremy Burgess.

No impact by these moves as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:13 PM   #3
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is all good, not a big deal. Yeah, they've been there for a long time, maybe is time to bring new blood.
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oh BTW, suppo will be marketing director for HRC at the beggining of 2010, reading between the lines, he will be doing something more than that they just can't confimr that just jet.

Also, there is a rumor that the 2 main geeks behind the fiat electronics (magneti mareli) are being hired by HRC as well.

Honda wants another champonship lol
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No team orders would have kept Haga from crashing in Utah, getting hit by a bird and breaking a shoulder blade.maybe not but it sure didn't help either

that. I wish people would stop blaming others some someone fails to win a championship. It's easier than blaming Haga



I'd like to see what sort of clauses are in the contracts for team orders. For a rookie to give up a first win in the last year of his contract.. No way. Fab is no rookie
You don't race for 2nd place. And having this on your race resume come contract time ain't going to fly...

Race Wins: 0 (but I could have won a few - team orders :( )


There had better be a clause for like 1MM Euros each time you let him pass you cuz it does nothing for your career.

I was jumping for Joy when Gabor beat Kallio despite explicit team orders at KTM on 125s. Kallio lost the championship by 4 points. Gabor's fault? Nope.. Kallio crashed in the penultimate race.

Gabor was tossed but went on to win the 125 championship with another team. KTMs loss.

/rant over


I don't see either Suppo or Tardozi anywhere near as valuable as a Jeremy Burgess.

No impact by these moves as far as I'm concerned.
Suppo could just be what Honda needs
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Suppo could just be what Honda needs

Perhaps they want him to use his super deep voice to keep Puig under control?


(oh, and go by thoughts crossed and didn't edit correctly.. didn't mean to say fab was a rookie.. going going to say rookie win but that sounded dumb. fudged it all up and still sounded dumb )
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Can't echo Arturo's comments more strongly majorily. However, I do think that their departure will be a non-factor, any time a figure head in a successful endevour leaves it causes a ripple effect.

Ducati MotoGP better hope that Stoner and Hayden can do most of the work themselves because I think there'll be ill effects well in to next season... WSBK, possibly not as drastic an effect IMHO. In WSBK the bike speaks louder than the riders.
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