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Old 11-04-2009, 08:10 PM   #21
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That never heals right so don't worry about it.
How true! My shoulder still isn't right and my finger will forever be permanently crooked! But Tony is one tough ! He rode broken while I cried on the sidelines!
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:19 PM   #22
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How true! My shoulder still isn't right and my finger will forever be permanently crooked! But Tony is one tough ! He rode broken while I cried on the sidelines!
Riding broken is part of the sport.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:26 PM   #23
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Only for tough folks....... which I never claimed to be!
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:14 PM   #24
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What ever happened to going racing for fun? I am planning on getting my license in February and going racing. I want to race endurance, but have to do sprints first per the CMRA. Is it just my perspective as I'm 41 and want to go race and cross another thing off my list? Am I wrong to just want to take part and have a laugh along the way?

My take on that bloke's story is that he is both broke and slow...........
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What ever happened to going racing for fun? I am planning on getting my license in February and going racing. I want to race endurance, but have to do sprints first per the CMRA. Is it just my perspective as I'm 41 and want to go race and cross another thing off my list? Am I wrong to just want to take part and have a laugh along the way?

My take on that bloke's story is that he is both broke and slow...........
race mini then you can race endurance the next year.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:16 AM   #26
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Good, blunt article that most young trackday only guys should read and take to heart. I was an expert level MX racer back in the '70's, even got my AMA license one year just for grins (had my handed to me every race :( ). I raced for the fun of it, stayed in school and became an engineer. It used to freak out my racing buds when I was doing physics or calculus homework between motos, but what the ?

I was a respectable rider in local races, but never had thoughs (or skill) for a real professional career. I saw how the real pros rode and broke themselves, just Google any of the old stars and you'll find nearly all of them down and out trying to string together a living now. Casual riders tend to miss the point that it's not how fast you are out there by yourself, it's how fast you are trading paint at speed, in the air or in front of 20 other sharks that makes you a racer.

I'm now building a vintage roadracer and MX bike to get back into track riding - just for the fun of riding, but know that even if I get back to the point of being able to enter an organized race (dinosaure class), I won't really be racing. I'm late in my career and planning retirement, so will be a candy- on the track and not willing to become a real racer again. Young lions need to think hard about where they want to go and what price they are willing to pay, not get delusional about "winning" a trackday where they were the only one's thinking they were accomplishing something. If you think you have what it takes, put your on the track with the true competitors and find out. People who are legends in their own minds and act like racers in a non-race situation are dangerous to us all.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:42 AM   #27
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that is true my wife loves to go to the races with me because of the people she doesn't care at all about bikes going fast. one more thing is racer 997 posted a life span of the avg racer as a racer on the CMRA board a while back. Sort of like the ages of man.
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I hear what the article is saying but then again you get to meet people like Linz, he seems to be pretty happy with his life.
There's a lot of unattractive truth for many in this article, yet I wouldn't call everything here 100% universal truth since I've raced with, and watched while [CMRA] club racing cultivated national and world champions such as Colin Edwards, the Hayden brothers, Danny Eslick and Ben Spies to name some of the more recent few. Still this article applies to the vast majority who will swing a leg over a motorcycle and go racing.

Me? I like the competition on the track and the family atmosphere at the track when I'm off the track. Sure, I love to win, and have been fortunate enough to do that now and again at the regional level, but it's the thrill of it ALL that I keep coming back for, and that's why I've been around as long as I have. That, and I'm stupid.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:19 AM   #29
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Ive been racing with the CMRA for 10 years and love it. Im a tight so I dont seem to get sucked into spending money as much as others can. Endurance racing is cheaper to do than sprints. And can be tons of fun if you have the right teammates.
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Whoever wrote that has been around, he clearly has experienced first hand racing. Speaks the truth
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:45 PM   #32
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An interesting and pretty spot on read in many respects. I've seen the full spectrum of racers the writer mentioned... from the bright-eyed newb to the edgy veteran who, for some reason or another, always seems like they woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I think it's hard for a racer who has achieved some sort of success at the Expert level to let anything else but THAT become the norm... or at least something not too far from that.

The write-up does come across as somewhat of a buzz kill, but like Keven Schwantz said, "...racing is 80% mental..." and that is totally true. If you keep things in perspective, anyone can go out and have fun racing for the "long haul". It all depends on what kind of pressure you put on yourself and how you keep yourself in check.

On a personal note, I had raced for five years straight and can honestly say that it was totally worth. The experience, success and comraderie was something I will never forget. Conversely, there were times when things just never seemed to come together (or they fell apart, literally) and you sat there and wondered, "WTF am I doing here!?" It's up to you to remember that t happens when throwing yourself into the controlled chaos of racing.

Unfortunately, the cost of racing exponentially rises the faster you go... both from a hardware and physical danger standpoint.

Still, if you're on the fence, I say GO FOR IT. Try to have a decent budget and health insurance... because you will crash if you put any kind of effort into it.

Finally, know when to walk away with a smile on your face, knowing that you threw your hat into the ring and gave it a try.

(i don't race anymore, but it, I still have my license... just in case!)
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(i don't race anymore, but it I should because I'm faster than 90% of the racers out there today and I could clean up if I did race... , I still have my license... just in case!)
Fixed it for you Jeff!
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:51 PM   #35
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It all depends on what kind of pressure you put on yourself and how you keep yourself in check.
This sums up my interpreation of the article.

Like everything else in life; the manner with which you approach and perceive it dictates the outcome.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:15 PM   #36
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(i don't race anymore, but it I should because I'm faster than 90% of the racers out there today and I could clean up if I did race... , I still have my license... just in case!)

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