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Old 11-03-2009, 11:32 AM   #41
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fkin sucks man....glad it wasn't worse
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:55 AM   #42
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Say it aint so Peruvian

Glad you are ok for the most part. Heal up quick lil buddy!
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:02 PM   #43
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Glad you are ok for the most part. Heal up quick lil buddy!
thanks alot man... ima try to get bike all fixed today so i can ride it tomorrow to ASI the doctors said my pain was gonna be bad when i woke up but i dont feel shyt n i havent even taken any medicine. haha
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thanks alot man... ima try to get bike all fixed today so i can ride it tomorrow to ASI the doctors said my pain was gonna be bad when i woke up but i dont feel shyt n i havent even taken any medicine. haha
I sent you a PM. I have some of the parts to get it back up and fixed.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:12 PM   #45
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get better man...

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Old 11-03-2009, 01:11 PM   #47
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. Good job keeping it up after the impact. I'm just saying... knee/shin protection would have kept that gash from happening. I wear mine everytime I ride.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:26 PM   #48
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Haha lol exactly.

Yea they are just thoughts and hindsight at that, so you never know. Who knows maybe the OP did close to much as he could already, but maybe not. Thinking about it may help one of us think about a future situation before it happens and hopefully avoid a bad outcome.
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who's patronizing? it's a solid question. cuz it will happen again.

and as new riders info like that is usefull.

now SBAtdijetta is understanding.
But not because you made a condescending "solid" question. Because he is smart enough to draw his own conclusions from causes and effects without your socratic questioning. Maybe you should focus on offering advice on the future instead. See comment below.

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. Good job keeping it up after the impact. I'm just saying... knee/shin protection would have kept that gash from happening. I wear mine everytime I ride.
Good example of teaching, not preaching.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:51 PM   #49
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appearantly it was unavaoidable, according to him (OP), so what has he learned?

what do you think he coulda done?

if you take this personnally thats your own prob. if you take this objectively and learn from it, then it's made a point.

in life, there are those that learn from example, and those that ARE the example.

socratic---> what does socrates have anything to do w/ this discussion?
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dude....were you lucky or unlucky....maybe a little of both? Heal up man.
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appearantly it was unavaoidable, according to him (OP), so what has he learned?

what do you think he coulda done?

if you take this personnally thats your own prob. if you take this objectively and learn from it, then it's made a point.

in life, there are those that learn from example, and those that ARE the example.

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Socratic Questioning Method. You use it whether you realize it or not.

I agree with your life example, except that you seek out to MAKE examples of people on this board. You preach instead of teach. No one has learned anything from your post except that if they post a wreck, you are sure to make an example of them....
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Socratic Questioning Method. You use it whether you realize it or not.

I agree with your life example, except that you seek out to MAKE examples of people on this board. You preach instead of teach. No one has learned anything from your post except that if they post a wreck, you are sure to make an example of them....
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so what coulda have been done to prevent this?

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and thats preaching?

and it goes downhill from there..........

i look at it objectively, you personally.
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Socratic Questioning Method. You use it whether you realize it or not.

I agree with your life example, except that you seek out to MAKE examples of people on this board. You preach instead of teach. No one has learned anything from your post except that if they post a wreck, you are sure to make an example of them....
hmm......so i ask him,

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so what coulda have been done to prevent this?

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and thats preaching?

and it goes downhill from there..........

i look at it objectively, you personally.

EVER accident is a example to learn from, now whether you look at it as that is your own personal hangup. SBAtdijetta has understood where i'm coming from.
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#1 Glad that you are ok! Good job keeping it up after the collision too.

The truck was certainly at fault for the accident... but, could he have avoided the accident all together before or after the truck drivers mistake?

Just having finished my MSF course I think I know what Racer X means by that. Could the accident have been avoided all together if (he) the rider had been a bit more aware of the truck and anticipating what it might do? Either getting side by side or even better just ahead of the truck so he sees you better and can't cut you off, or allowing more space between himself and the next car so that when the truck took his lane he had more time & space to avoid it either swerving or stopping?

Or maybe lane position could have helped. If he was already riding in the right hand portion of his lane (to be more visible to the truck) he could have had much less ground to cover swerving to the right to get out of the way and maybe missed the truck.

Not judging in any way (I was obviously not there), but just my .02 on thinking about trying to come up with ways how it could have maybe been avoided.
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dude that 2nd video was nasty, couldn't they have just sewn you up or something? And I'd need to be out before I let someone come at me with a stapler...

glad you're ok and +1 to the emergency room taking for fcking ever to do something. After my wreck, I went into a completely EMPTY emergency room and I still had to wait.
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dude that 2nd video was nasty, couldn't they have just sewn you up or something? And I'd need to be out before I let someone come at me with a stapler...

glad you're ok and +1 to the emergency room taking for fcking ever to do something. After my wreck, I went into a completely EMPTY emergency room and I still had to wait.
+1 and yeah those videos made me a little bit sick in the stomach... I had to stop watching them..

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hmm......so i ask him,

and thats preaching?

and it goes downhill from there..........

i look at it objectively, you personally.

EVER accident is a example to learn from, now whether you look at it as that is your own personal hangup. SBAtdijetta has understood where i'm coming from.
I'm not weighing in on preaching vs. teaching; that is a fine line to some. But I do know how easy it is for people to read in to a post's tone or meaning that may or may not be there.

I do agree and think if every accident was posted up on the boards and described as well and diagrammed like Peruvian did it would be a benefit to everyone who reads them and wants to learn from them. I also think most accidents are preventable, but that does not mean the car/truck whatever that caused it is not at fault for the accident if it does occur. But to me at least it is not as much about who would be at fault as much as it is about avoiding the accident in the first place; regardless of fault to avoid others mistakes if at all possible.
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I also think most accidents are preventable, but that does not mean the car/truck whatever that caused it is not at fault for the accident if it does occur. But to me at least it is not as much about who would be at fault as much as it is about avoiding the accident in the first place; regardless of fault to avoid others mistakes if at all possible.

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^^ I just don't want my bike, myself, or others I care about damaged/hurt if it can be avoided. JMO, YMMV.

It is very important to separate fault for the accident from what could have been done to avoid the accident.
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I was really confused about the story until your drawing. then it summed up the accident quite well.


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. glad you are ok. much as i have been around too many accidents, there is still something that gets me squeemish about seeing the inside of somethingm that was never supposed to see daylight. ever.

glad you are ok for the most part. get back up, and back on. soon!
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