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Old 10-25-2009, 10:46 PM   #21
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Fair play to you for not being the squid who buys an R6 then promptly wraps it round a tree. Don't listen to the clowns who can ride a big bike in a straight line but couldnt corner if their life depended on it. Tape the lights, go to a couple of track day on the 250 and the day you get your knee down start making payments on the bike of your dreams.
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:27 PM   #22
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why would you want to downgrade like that?

ok, but on a serious note. the r6 is flat. honest. not hating. of course itll be quicker than the 250, but do you really want to wait until you get your third bike to really find out what bikes can do? i rode hundreds of bikes when i worked at the dealer as the prep and make ready guy. new/used/in for repairs. i have ridden tons of bikes. i love bikes, love to ride them...but when they told me to test ride an R6, i was like....*sigh* fine...

ever had a flat girlfriend? remember how anxiuos you were to see her cause she always wore a padded bra and you didnt know? then finally one day she trusts you enough to take her shirt off, and its like...

..oh...

well if you never put your hands, mouth or eyes on real maybe you didnt care. and for you since youve only ridden a 250 maybe you wont either...just know thats what your getting.

the r6 really feels flat to me, like a 250. sure it has more power...it can go faster, but i twist the throttle, wait, yawn...and finally it picks up some speed...sort of. get whatever you want...i dont care. its just my $0.02

as far as if you are ready....well the funny thing i notice is...

the guys who want to go out and buy 600's and 1000's for their first bikes are the ones who should get 250's.

the guys who go out and take msf, get all their gear, then buy a 250...those are the guys with enough self control that they probably could have started out on something bigger. funny how that works huh?
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:31 PM   #23
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Winter is coming around. Not gonna be alot of riding in the winter. My opinion is that you should stick with the 250 for now and learn to break, accelerate, take corners, swerve, get comfortable with your reaction times and get used to suck Houston traffic. My guess is that you're outgrowing the 250's speed limitations. There really is alot more to learn on a bike than speed.

Then when spring comes around, sell the 250 and get yourself the R6 you want. You'll at least have an additional 4 months of experience under your belt and be that less likely to wreck or drop your new GSXR600. Um... I mean R6.
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:33 PM   #24
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Chris24.... Ahahahahahahaha!!!!!

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i say if you want to get one, get one.. once you get the basics down, you can buy the new "big" bike, but you just have to have self control and good adjustment skills. I started on a 636 ( i know, flame away) but i stayed inside my limits until i got more seat time, and i still dont push my limits because i know im not a great rider yet, just average. Until i do some trackdays, then i will go above the noob pace on forest rides..

and yes racer x, I took msf and bought ALL my gear before i rode any bike

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Old 10-25-2009, 11:44 PM   #26
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i rode my 250 for 2 years and could still learn a lot on it, dont think that you are limited because of the small engine and "low" top speed, when do you really need to go that fast, play it safe for a while and save you money for a new bike so you dont have much of a payment, or invest in some mods my 250 goes like 125-130

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Chris24... You're not doing it right!

For any 600ss most of the powerband is in the Upper RPMs. Hard to get there just rolling around Houston unless youve got your AK with you and are planning on murdering the streets
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I don't intend to keep the 250 so investing on it is not a good idea. Plus it retains more value stock.

@ Helios
I forgot that winter is around the corner. I can wait til spring to get a new bike. How slow is it around here during winter?
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:45 AM   #29
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stick with the 250 and take it to the track. you'll have a blast and you'll learn what that little ninja can really do.
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Im sure I am getting ahead of myself. Im going to give myself 2-3 more rides through the forest and about 1-2k more miles on the 250 and I might move on to an r6. This way I can still sell the 250 for about what I got it for.

I have done 1 forest ride, 762-cr42, and 1458. I really should do a track day on the 250 before moving forward i think.

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Old 10-26-2009, 01:16 PM   #31
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I don't intend to keep the 250 so investing on it is not a good idea. Plus it retains more value stock.
keep that 250! there is nothing wrong with it.

ever see a lightened 250 on the streets/track? you can do a lot to make it "yours". dont think for a second you are on the "lesser" side of motorcycling. keep it for a few more years.

seen PLENTY of 250s give much larger bikes a run for the money.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:25 PM   #32
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..... wait... I kinda skimmed over this thread..

we have WINTER down here?? Why wasn't I told...?

, I thought from now till April was the best time of year to ride!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:25 PM   #33
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I think the key here is "experience".

You rode the Forest once, 762-cr42, and 1458. Did you do it well?
Did you have any oh moments?
Do you know what to do if you momentarily lose front of rear traction?
Can you panic stop your motorcycle in as short a distance as possible, without laying it down, automatically?

With only a month or two experience, I'm not certain you should move up, but you're a grown man, able to make your own decisions.

As far as if you can ride a 250 you can ride a 600. The same statement is true of a 1000, but I wouldn't recommend doing that either.

A modern 600 has a better power to weight ratio than a '97 GSXR1100, and I wouldn't have recommended riding one of those with only a couple of months experience.

My 2 cents, ymmv.
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Ride the out of that 250!

Then move up to a busa.
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have to agree. keep that 250 for a year at LEAST. REALLY learn the machine, and its handling characteristics. practice panick braking on rainy days, etc,etc.

you have an excellent intrument to learn on, and GROW with. as they say "learn the TRADE, not the TRICKS".
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ARES...

how is the 250 for you size wise?

you know HYOSUNG makes a V-TWIN 250, and it is the EXACT same size as a 600 cc. you cant even tell which is which. except by the frame. BIG BIKE.
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I definitely have had o- moments mostly once when I go somewhere new. This said I do have much more to learn. Ill go back and forth to RR and cr42 and try to take someone who knows what he's doing in order to compare lines/posture etc.

I am 200 lbs, around 5'7" or more. So I don't look too bad on the 250. I know I'm pushing the little engine to its limits with my weight.

I was behind Squoddy in the first part of the forest ride and loved it. I loved the lines she takes on the turns and her lean. I need to ride more with people like her.


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Forgot to say thanks for the input. I don't believe Chase's statement in the first page about asking questions. I believe in asking questions before making decisions is an easier way to research.
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