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Old 10-20-2009, 03:33 PM   #1
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CMRA event photographers safety question.

I was at the races this last weekend and my wife, kid and I were at turn 10 enjoying the event.

There was something that I noticed that I thought was weird after lunch. I saw the photographers both standing halfway between the guard rail and the track directly in the run-off zone.

I was thinking how f*cked those guys were going to be if one of these guys ran off during the race. These guys were coming from turn 9 smoking and passing and it is totally feasible that someone could run off going pretty fast. I know as a rider, I would hate to run into someone if I come off the track. Even my wife made a comment how that didnt look very safe and I dont even think she has ever seen any kind of race ever.

When I see the races on TV, I have never seen someone 20 feet from the edge of the track right on a turn taking pictures. Is that normal practice during the CMRA races? Just wondering.

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Old 10-20-2009, 03:59 PM   #2
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:01 PM   #3
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I was the cw there in 10 on Sunday. As much time as I have spent in that turn I have never seen a bike go down to where they would be in jeapordy. I have seen many run off before the turn and further into the turn. But you never know... It could easily happen.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:23 PM   #4
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i was talking with eltejano out there in turn 10. i'm pretty sure he doesn't mean you pam. i believe he is referring to the photogs standing on the outside of the turn, closer to the fences where everyone chills by.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:32 PM   #5
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Nah that's a slow corner the likliehood of a crash maing it that far are highly unlikely. I was racing so not quite sure where the Photog's were.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:33 PM   #6
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Those guys were paparazzis.
They got a tip that Pam was gonna flash the boys in turn 10.

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Old 10-20-2009, 04:39 PM   #7
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A certain photographer at TWS (Texas World Speedway) likes that spot to take pix. It's dangerous and he's told to stay back a safe distance, but he's intent on getting the shot. In truth and based on that corner, he's probably far enough away, but does happen once in a while. That's what photographers do.

On Sunday we had several complaints from riders that photographers were too close to the track in some corners. In some cases, these "photographers" were corner workers trying to get a shot. As a racer, I found it distracting when I saw someone sitting next to the apron of the track, although I know it makes for a killer shot. More racer complaints caused race control to remind the corner workers that they should respect the apron of the track and get back to the task at hand - working the corners.
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A certain photographer at TWS (Texas World Speedway) likes that spot to take pix. It's dangerous and he's told to stay back a safe distance, but he's intent on getting the shot. In truth and based on that corner, he's probably far enough away, but does happen once in a while. That's what photographers do.

On Sunday we had several complaints from riders that photographers were too close to the track in some corners. In some cases, these "photographers" were corner workers trying to get a shot. As a racer, I found it distracting when I saw someone sitting next to the apron of the track, although I know it makes for a killer shot. More racer complaints caused race control to remind the corner workers that they should respect the apron of the track and get back to the task at hand - working the corners.
You are right, there were three other photogs in my corner with me and at one point they were close to the track and I knew it was too much. They left, then we got the call.
But at no point was the corner left unattended or neglected in any way.
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You are right, there were three other photogs in my corner with me and at one point they were close to the track and I knew it was too much. They left, then we got the call.
But at no point was the corner left unattended or neglected in any way.
telephoto lens fixes the issue of having to get on the edge of the track i loved my 70-300mm lens just for this reason. i could sit in the shade and get a up-close and personal shot
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telephoto lens fixes the issue of having to get on the edge of the track i loved my 70-300mm lens just for this reason. i could sit in the shade and get a up-close and personal shot
300 or 400mm lens doesnt make for great angles. Ive got some old stuff form MSR when I shot for Bucks days..... man I miss the old days.
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300 or 400mm lens doesnt make for great angles. Ive got some old stuff form MSR when I shot for Bucks days..... man I miss the old days.
When you used to lay on the track to get BAD A$$ shots?? Oh the good old days.
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PhotoG's take the risk to get that shot, it's no different then anything else, BUT if it's putting the racers in danger then I think that's a different story.

Do any of these guys use remotes instead of trying to get so close? Sure it's not as easy, but it'd be a lot safer for both the riders and the photogs.
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PhotoG's take the risk to get that shot, it's no different then anything else, BUT if it's putting the racers in danger then I think that's a different story.

Do any of these guys use remotes instead of trying to get so close? Sure it's not as easy, but it'd be a lot safer for both the riders and the photogs.
yeah, you can use a remote, and shoot 5000 times for one shot.


Photographers have always gotten close, to any motorsport. And when we take great shots, the racers (or who ever its of) love the shots.....
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yeah, you can use a remote, and shoot 5000 times for one shot.


Photographers have always gotten close, to any motorsport. And when we take great shots, the racers (or who ever its of) love the shots.....
I am sure many do, but I am sure there are some out there who get spooked or nervous when discovering someone right on the edge of a track coming into a turn hot. Maybe not as much at races, but def at trackdays.

I am not saying its wrong, I'm just saying, it think it warrants some predetermination as to what is too close and what the riders are OK with.
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Eh, I agree. I just go by what I used to be able to do at MSR, no one there had a problem.

Id have my camera on the grass about 2-6 inches from the pavement looking up at the riders..... good stuff.
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