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Old 10-20-2009, 12:04 PM   #1
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I saw several threads about the pro's and con's of GP shifting but I didn't see any with directions. I have been going back and forth about whether or not I want to do this. After practicing my shifting Fri. I have decided to try it. Anyone have quick directions on how to do it on an 07 Honda RR? Thanks!
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:07 PM   #2
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Stock or aftermarket rearsets?

Do the 07's still have the vertical shift linkage running from the gear box to the shift lever? If so, I think you have to have a lever where you can mount the shift linkage on the other side of the pivot. That is how the aftermarket rearsets work if I am not mistaken.

Not sure if there is a cheaper way (probably is, I am just not aware of it). Maybe post a picture of your linkage.
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I have vortex rear sets! Give me a minute and I will go and take a pic of the linkage!
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Take your black shift rod and bolt it to the bottom of the black bracket that bolts to your motor.
I shift normal and it works fine it all the CMRA tracks. Why do I still shift normal? When I got to the track I wanted to put my focus on riding....not relearing how to shift.
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:36 PM   #7
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Yep, just like Gabe mentioned. Move the black shift rod to the underside of the black bracket and you are set.
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Take your black shift rod and bolt it to the bottom of the black bracket that bolts to your motor.
I shift normal and it works fine it all the CMRA tracks. Why do I still shift normal? When I got to the track I wanted to put my focus on riding....not relearing how to shift.
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Thanks Gabe! I decided to do it over the off season so I will have time to get used to it. Only reason I am gonna try it is because I have such small feet that it is hard for me to upshift. For example: Coming onto the front straight at TWS (Texas World Speedway) I have to sit up and so I can adjust my for to get it under the shift lever. I lose lots of time in doing that. I can stay tucked and downshift just fine. I thought about it and most of the time I am downshifting I am somewhat siting upright so I should be able to get my foot under the shift lever. It may help, it may not but thought it would be worth a try!
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Candie I will take pics of mine tonight and get with you tomorrow. Basically like all others have said you just flip the knuckle around 180 degrees
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Candie I will take pics of mine tonight and get with you tomorrow. Basically like all others have said you just flip the knuckle around 180 degrees
You don't need to do that with those rearsets. Gabe gave you the answer, your rearsets are designed to run both, follow gabe's directions and you will be good. One thing though, you may have to remove your kick stand unless you have plenty of room, i can't determine that very well from the pictures.

I tried both, i am used to both now but i like standard shift better, why? Because for me is more critical to correctly downshift that upshift, i want to downshift faster to be ready for the turn so it is easier for me to kick down and slide the boot back than shift up and then slide the boot. I know GP shift can be faster cause you are kicking it when speeding but i am not that fast to notice that, i prefer to be comfortable wth what i've done for the past years.
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Hey Candie, what I found with GP Shift is it helped me on some tracks and was a bit of a PITA on others. It all comes down to your body position when you need to shift. At TWS (Texas World Speedway), for example, I have to downshift while leaned over in Turn 1. That's better for normal style shifting. Everywhere else, GP has been fine.

You are describing the need to adjust the rear sets better for your feet. You might consider keeping an eye out on WERA for Sato rear sets. I was looking at the Sato's on Ty's KTM on Sunday. There is a huge amount of adjustment capability in comparison to the Vortex you and I both use. I want to be able to more the shift lever closer to my foot... can't do that with the Vortex.

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I did it with mine and it was squished into the hoses.
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Well mechanically i cant help u out there...

but i love love love gp shift (never thought id say that either)
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Hey Candie, what I found with GP Shift is it helped me on some tracks and was a bit of a PITA on others. It all comes down to your body position when you need to shift. At TWS (Texas World Speedway), for example, I have to downshift while leaned over in Turn 1. That's better for normal style shifting. Everywhere else, GP has been fine.

You are describing the need to adjust the rear sets better for your feet. You might consider keeping an eye out on WERA for Sato rear sets. I was looking at the Sato's on Ty's KTM on Sunday. There is a huge amount of adjustment capability in comparison to the Vortex you and I both use. I want to be able to more the shift lever closer to my foot... can't do that with the Vortex.

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+1, that is why i do my shifting before getting there if running a GP shift, i tried GP shift once and shifted during my lean, well i am here to say i visited the ditch and the fence, plus some mud
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I did it with mine and it was squished into the hoses.
when you convert it with stock rearsets, you have to move hoses, ditch the front sprocket cover, and move the idle adjuster wheel. Otherwise you have lots of rubbing that will eventually turn into lots of leakage.

I dunno why Honda didn't think of GP shift when building the bike, most bikes is just turning the knuckle around, on the new suzuki's you have to pull out the shift lever mount and move everything back so it doesn't rub on the case cover.
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+1, that is why i do my shifting before getting there if running a GP shift, i tried GP shift once and shifted during my lean, well i am here to say i visited the ditch and the fence, plus some mud
I'm in fifth on the front straight and need to get to second by turn two. I can't make all those shifts on the straight without being even more dog slow than I am already. I have no choice but to shift leaned over.
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wonder if it will help make you faster than you were on Friday's trackday. Hey try it and see if that Honda will actually move for once, maybe that has been the problem all along
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I have no problem with shifting(plenty of other problems I'm sure) so I am happy with standard shift. I'm like Gabe...I have other things to focus on other that worrying about relearning how to shift, but she has issues with her tiny feet...so we'll give it a try. I"ll get it done so she can experiment some at Cresson. Thanks guys for the info
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wonder if it will help make you faster than you were on Friday's trackday. Hey try it and see if that Honda will actually move for once, maybe that has been the problem all along

HaHa! Funny man Jet. Nope that was the problem Friday. But being forced to go so slow gave me plenty of time to practice my shifting. I am a womens size 6 in my Astars boots. That is tiny compared to my rear sets. I barely have my back heel on the ped when I try to upshift. I have to totally reposition my foot to get it under the shift lever in doing so I have to completely shift forward to be able to reach. ( I know that is a hard concept for some of you guys to grasp with your size 12 foot.:keke) I talked to a couple people and they said gp shift seems to be easier for tiny feet.
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hmmm, find somebody that works at a machine shop and get a custom shift lever made, just shorter.
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