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Old 10-17-2009, 11:45 AM   #1
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why you guys arent respected

well, i joined pretty much just to say this. im sure im going to get torn apart, banned, flamed etc... for this, but i just want to give you guys a little insight as to why you arent respected.

and no im not just some dude who hates anyone on a bike. ive owned dirtbikes, quads, cruisers, and sport bikes, but i gave it up because i just decided it wasnt a risk worth taking...

not because i dont think i can responsibly own a bike, or any other reason except for the simple fact that it is too dangerous. we dont live in a world where people pay attention when they drive. period. wether its yapping on a cell phone, lighting a cigg, or just daydreaming, cagers and other bike riders alike just plain dont pay attention. they also dont know the rules of the road.

based on that ive decided its really just not worth the risk both to my own safety, and to my wallet to get out there and ride anymore. yes its sad. yes i wish it wasnt so. but to me, riding around dealing with what riders have to deal with- everything from cagers cutting them off, to cagers throwing stuff.... just isnt worth it. maybe im old, maybe i just have different priorities now than i used to.

anyways, im not here to rant about anyone or anything in particular, just more or less here to make you guys take a step back and think about things. before you get all defensive, or just blow off what i am saying, just step back and check yourself.

i know this is also true for cruisers.. but alot of sport bike riding is image. when i say that, i mean its an image that your portraying when you get on your sportbike, (hopefully) gear up, and go ride. when anyone else in the universe looks at you, reguardless of your skills, they only see the "image".

a big factor in that, is that its always about ramping it up to the next level. if we all owned motorcycles just for the pure enjoyment of getting out and riding them the speed limit, obeying all traffic laws, wearing full gear, having insurance, safety course, using turn signals... all those little things.... there would be far less going in the sport bike image.

but that will never be the case.

even the best of us get the urge to gun it. even the best of us get the urge to pass that guy. it happens.

keep that in mind.

so lets rewind our own lives and step back into the shoes of a newb. yes we were all there at one time.

for the newb, 100% of sportbike riding is image. all he knows is the youtube videos, or the forum posts and pictures, or the guys he sees riding out in public. thats it. he does not know sportbike riding on a personal level. he does not know the feeling of slamming your body into concrete at speed. he does not know the feeling of how much more it hurts the following day, or even the 2nd day after. those things are not part of his "image". his image composes of himself through the eyes of others.

because his view of sportbike riding is that of an outsider, his idea of himself will also be that of an outsider. so he sees himself as what he sees everyone else as.

this is why so many guys who have never ridden before tend to get the bigger sportbikes. because they are not ok with the image of themselves riding anything other than a 600+

this is why so many guys who dont even know what countersteering is are already googling "how to wheelie" or "how to stoppie".

it sucks for everyone that so many bad riders, uneducated riders, and ignorant riders, have given sportbikes this image. but its a fact of life for you. something you are forced to deal with wether you want to acknowladge it or not.

sure cruisers have the bar hopping image, but lets try to think about riding style? theres always that guy who will pop in with the exception.... but for the most part, cruisers dont have a bad image when it comes to ride skills.

i think its mostly because of the mindset of most guys who are the most likely to ride dangerously just happens to be for whatever reason the same guys who want sportbikes.

so long story short here...

keep that in mind the next time you brag about how you go 110 because you just cant go the flow of traffic with cagers. thats retarted. its against the law. the law doesnt bend for you because you choose to transport yourself somewhere in a situation thats far more dangerous than those around you. you choose to get out and ride amongst the idiot harris county cagers, so follow the rules.

keep that in mind next time you want to practice your wheelies or stoppies on the highway. or any other public road.

when you hear these stories about newbs wrecking, or about cagers raging, or pretty much any other negative aspect that people always complain about.... think about yourself. take a step back and think about wether or not your contributing to that "image"..

that is all.

ill check back im sure to see what kind of flaming i get...

but more or less if this changes at least one persons idea of how to get out and act in the real world, then its done some good.



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Old 10-17-2009, 11:47 AM   #2
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and you dont think we already know and think about all this? come on man...
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And you felt the need to be our mothers because....?
lol maybe its the female in me. (im a girl duh)

but really though, this is the kinda i expected in return.

anyways, like i said.. maybe someone will read it and wont take the "we know how to ride , dont tell us what do do" attitude, and might take a step back and realize he rides like a moron. maybe it will save his/her life.

who knows.

but your attitudes so far are pretty much why not too many people care very much what sportbike riders have to say when they are defending themselves from actions taken like the newbs in the video.

if your out there riding like an idiot, youre part of the problem, and you probably will take offense.

sucks.
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but yep thats it for me here. im just another cager these days, so i really have no use here. but.. like i said... feel free to get defensive, correct my gammer and lack of proper punctuation and capitalization... misspelled words... desire to help others out... and continue to live in your own little personal image where you are the know all of riding skills.

some will read this and get it.

but most wont.

same reason why the majority of riders suck.
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That was a well written post. Thank you. At the end of the day high performance bikes are really not meant for the street nor for ultra law abiding folks like yourself. Regardless of the noob status or experienced riders, part of the enjoyment is riding fast through the turns, feeling the incredibly acceleration and the outstanding braking performance. Does that make sports bike riders bad or dangerous? Not necessarily. Do these riders break the law? Quite often, yes.

Does that make the riders any worse than a high performance sports car owner? No.

Riding high performance bikes, driving high performance cars on the street is dangerous for our personal safety and can also lead to tickets. It's the risk we take.
 
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lol maybe its the female in me. (im a girl duh)

but really though, this is the kinda i expected in return.

anyways, like i said.. maybe someone will read it and wont take the "we know how to ride , dont tell us what do do" attitude, and might take a step back and realize he rides like a moron. maybe it will save his/her life.

who knows.

but your attitudes so far are pretty much why not too many people care very much what sportbike riders have to say when they are defending themselves from actions taken like the newbs in the video.

if your out there riding like an idiot, youre part of the problem, and you probably will take offense.

sucks.
4 out of the 6 ppl that have responded so far are women. how come we dont have this 'bossy motherly' problem like you?
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but yep thats it for me here. im just another cager these days, so i really have no use here. but.. like i said... feel free to get defensive, correct my gammer and lack of proper punctuation and capitalization... misspelled words... desire to help others out... and continue to live in your own little personal image where you are the know all of riding skills.

some will read this and get it.

but most wont.

same reason why the majority of riders suck.
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you dont know us or how we ride. you are just sounding like a fool.
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Nobody above who has posted rides like an idiot. Here is a tip. Why don't you READ SOME POSTS before you come on here preaching from the high mount. Not many on this site condone the actions seen in the video. THAT is why you are getting flamed.

Nice 1st post.

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That was a well written post. Thank you. At the end of the day high performance bikes are really not meant for the street nor for ultra law abiding folks like yourself. Regardless of the noob status or experienced riders, part of the enjoyment is riding hats through the turns, feeling the incredibly acceleration and the outstanding braking performance. Does that make sports bike riders bad or dangerous? Not necessarily. Do these riders break the law? Quite often, yes.

Does that make the riders any worse than a high performance sports car owner? No.

Riding high performance bikes, driving high performance cars on the street is dangerous for our personal safety and can also lead to tickets. It's the risk we take.
i didnt post here to say your worse than performance car owners, or worse than anyone really. not here to compare.

im sure theres a dirtbike on 610 speeding right now.

it has nothing to do with sportbike riders and what im talking about.

easy to justify breaking the law when you can say "that other guy does it too"

but thats all about taking ownership of your own actions... something alot of people never really learn to do.

yes i understand bikes have more power than you will ever need. its all about self control, and sadly its usually when we fail to have self control that we start taking risks.

its easy to say "its my risk to take" when your speeding here and there, but when you crash out and the guy behind you swerves and rolls his cage, and his kid dies.... is your risk a fair risk to take for everyone? pretty selfish response imo.

anyways, i already the know the longer i stay around the more i will post, and for those who i will feel the need to argue with... its a war i will never win.

anyhoo, be safe out there.
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LOL, we wouldn't get to enjoy hilarious videos like you just posted if we didn't have squids.

Some choose to act that way but there are a lot of responsible riders out there also. Some do just ride to enjoy it and don't have to ride crazy to enjoy being on 2 wheels.

Also, for drivers not paying attention: it doesn't matter if you're riding like an idiot or riding responsible although riding responsible would increase your chances of preventing a crash or minimizing damage.
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