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Old 10-08-2009, 05:15 PM   #21
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:15 PM   #22
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So from the info I have gathered from here I can state, "A Good Rider is a safe Rider" but is a Safe Rider a Good Rider?
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So from the info I have gathered from here I can state, "A Good Rider is a safe Rider" but is a Safe Rider a Good Rider?
Not neccessarily, a good rider has the abilities to avoid problems and good judgement, a safe rider may not have the skills to avoid something unexpected.
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A good street rider:
1) mature enough to know it is not a toy because it is fun to ride.
2) respects all drivers of all vehicles on the road with him/her.
3) doesnt need confirmation from other riders that he/she is a good rider by impressing others.
4) responsible enough to not make all bikers look like speeding fools who weave in and out traffic just because you can.
5) takes no chances. chances make a 50/50 life/death ratio. You feel that lucky?
6) Completely aware of everything going on around you while riding. If you have an Ipod blaring in your ear you are not in touch.
7) will not ride in groups that dont have a clue.
8) comes to terms with the age old biker saying "Its not if you will ever crash, its a matter of when". Makes it a point to push the "when" ahead for one more day, every day.
9) A good rider learns everything possible about the machine he rides. You trust it will get you from A to B safely, but you have to know what makes it tick so it doesnt leave you in a dangerous predicament.
10) Most important. Other drivers should be viewed as blind and deaf people who are trying to hit you on purpose. DONT TRUST ANYONE!

I have been a street rider for 23 years. I had my first and only street accident in December of 02 two blocks from home. Nobody is really better than the next when riding on the street, just more responsible and careful. It is my opinion that the better street riders are the ones who use their bikes for needful transportation rather than joyrides.
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I think that the definition of a good rider is someone who has the ability to do amazing things on a motorcycle that many people can't, but aslo knows there is a time and a place to do that safely. They also know how to minimize the risk to themselves and those around them to as practical of limits as possible on a motorcycle. Ability plus bad reasoning combine to just make a fast but dumb street rider which leads to advanced risk of an accident. A good STREET rider is the one with the least amount of risk to themselves and others by using ability and judgement
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Plus he's/she's able to do the 610 loop in less than 10min.
This means a constant speed between 180-190mph (the 610 loop is 37.XX miles) I would really like to know how this is doable. Honestly.

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1) mature enough to know it is not a toy because it is fun to ride.
2) respects all drivers of all vehicles on the road with him/her.
3) doesnt need confirmation from other riders that he/she is a good rider by impressing others.
4) responsible enough to not make all bikers look like speeding fools who weave in and out traffic just because you can.
5) takes no chances. chances make a 50/50 life/death ratio. You feel that lucky?
6) Completely aware of everything going on around you while riding. If you have an Ipod blaring in your ear you are not in touch.
7) will not ride in groups that dont have a clue.
8) comes to terms with the age old biker saying "Its not if you will ever crash, its a matter of when". Makes it a point to push the "when" ahead for one more day, every day.
9) A good rider learns everything possible about the machine he rides. You trust it will get you from A to B safely, but you have to know what makes it tick so it doesnt leave you in a dangerous predicament.
10) Most important. Other drivers should be viewed as blind and deaf people who are trying to hit you on purpose. DONT TRUST ANYONE!
This is the best answer posted thus far.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:42 PM   #31
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A good street rider:
1) mature enough to know it is not a toy because it is fun to ride.
2) respects all drivers of all vehicles on the road with him/her.
3) doesnt need confirmation from other riders that he/she is a good rider by impressing others.
4) responsible enough to not make all bikers look like speeding fools who weave in and out traffic just because you can.
5) takes no chances. chances make a 50/50 life/death ratio. You feel that lucky?
6) Completely aware of everything going on around you while riding. If you have an Ipod blaring in your ear you are not in touch.
7) will not ride in groups that dont have a clue.
8) comes to terms with the age old biker saying "Its not if you will ever crash, its a matter of when". Makes it a point to push the "when" ahead for one more day, every day.
9) A good rider learns everything possible about the machine he rides. You trust it will get you from A to B safely, but you have to know what makes it tick so it doesnt leave you in a dangerous predicament.
10) Most important. Other drivers should be viewed as blind and deaf people who are trying to hit you on purpose. DONT TRUST ANYONE!

I have been a street rider for 23 years. I had my first and only street accident in December of 02 two blocks from home. Nobody is really better than the next when riding on the street, just more responsible and careful. It is my opinion that the better street riders are the ones who use their bikes for needful transportation rather than joyrides.
Best answer is right here.
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I can probably ride for 30 years, everyday, the speed limit and take no chances, other than riding. Does that make me a good street rider?

No..it makes me extraordinarily mature or scared or something. And why on 's green earth would someone buy a 160 hp 400lb rocket that is uncomfortable as to ride like that? Other than to be 'cool'.


To me, a great street rider can stunt, drag knee and generally tear it up like a race track..if they want.

But don't.

If u can't do all that...you aint worthy of even being considered. I don't care if you've put 500k miles over 40 years.

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So Rossi is not the G.O.A.T. Because he crashes?
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This thread remains a thinly veiled slam on a downed rider. It's inappropriate.
 
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So Rossi is not the G.O.A.T. Because he crashes?
Everyone crashes, but if your hardly ever or not crashing, you might be doing something right on the road.
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This means a constant speed between 180-190mph (the 610 loop is 37.XX miles) I would really like to know how this is doable. Honestly.
Still would like someone to answer this 10 minute club question.
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This thread remains a thinly veiled slam on a downed rider. It's inappropriate.
It not thinly veiled. It's potstirring . Some that have answered may not know the backstory and offered honest opinions. Others have their own agenda. There is a time and place for everything. This isn't either.

Best wishes to the down rider and his family and anyone else negatively impacted at whatever level.

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A good street rider :
- is responsible for his safety and others'
- has good judgment
- would not be pushing his limits on the street
- knows when to ride and when not to
- does not take chances
- maintains his/her bike
- wears gear
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I don't see anyone slamming the recently downed rider at all. I personally think it's a good question, and an interesting thread. To clarify, I've never met the guy who just wrecked either though.
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