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Old 04-19-2006, 10:57 AM   #1
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how to lower gas prices.

i got this in an email. i don't think it would work, but wanted to see what you guys thought.

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For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:04 AM   #2
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ExxonMobil is one entity. BTW, profit margins on a gallon of gasoline are not very high, and they could be worse. Use fuel efficient vehicles to show that we can be more knowledgeable consumers, and the prices will come down. It's all in the laws of supply and demand
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:13 AM   #3
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why make it so hard? how about a new president? blame everything on him
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ExxonMobil is one entity. BTW, profit margins on a gallon of gasoline are not very high, and they could be worse. Use fuel efficient vehicles to show that we can be more knowledgeable consumers, and the prices will come down. It's all in the laws of supply and demand
if profit margins arnt high why did they make 35 billion dollers last year?
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Old 04-19-2006, 11:22 AM   #5
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if profit margins arnt high why did they make 35 billion dollers last year?
if profit margins arnt high why are those middle eastern driving enzo? and I'm missing two wheels.
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because they are one of the largest corporations in the entire world! Before you go chomping at the bit, keep in mind that ExxonMobil's profit margins were significantly less than pharmaceutical sales, and we need medicine to survive!!!
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because they dont just produce gasoline. they produce alot of other things. the profit margin at most gas stations is 1-2 cents per gallon or they are selling it at cost or under to get you to buy things in the store. thats how the game works, stores make their money off of stuff bought inside not gas or diesel
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i'm going to start digging for oil in my back yard... I'll make my own gas damnit!
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Valero is the largest refiner btw.

And did you know that we import more oil from Canada and Mexico than all the other countries in the world?

There is no way to really make a dent in any of the oil companies out there by boycotting them cause it is an item in short supply. People buy it out of necessity to live. You want to make a dent, get rid of the gas gussling SUVs, and take city transportation.

Here is some information for you guys that are not in the know....

The 42-gallon barrel of crude oil makes about 19½ gallons of gasoline, 9 gallons of fuel oil, 4 gallons of jet fuel, and 11 gallons of other products, including lubricants, kerosene, asphalt, and petrochemical feedstocks to make plastics. That adds up to more than 42 gallons because of something called "refinery gain" - the processing and chemical changes increase the density and hence the volume of the refined components. So, crudely (pun intended), a $71 barrel of crude represents about $1.69 cents a gallon to start with. That $1.69 represents the cost of production plus producer profit. Go up from there.

refiner cost - 15c
marketing cost - 7c
transportation cost - 25c
retailer cost - 5c
refiner, marketer, transporter, retailer profit - 10c (total, not each)

Add that to $1.69, add the average 43 cents tax, and -- rather remarkably - that adds up to $2.84, if I added correctly - just about what you are paying. All the numbers vary depending on a long list of things -- refiner costs go up when they have to make specialized local blends (one reason for CA and Chicago having higher prices), marketing costs are higher in competitive markets (i.e., big cities), transportation costs are higher in the boondocks, or generally in places distant from refineries, retailer costs depend on number of employees, whether or not it is a franchise and the total price also depends on differing state and local taxes. So these numbers would be ball-park, approximations.
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i'm going to start digging for oil in my back yard... I'll make my own gas damnit!
great idea!! :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6 All you need is about 10 barrels of oil a day.
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get as many people as you can to ride motorcycles ( take the msf 1st)
should save them some gas money.
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your a bad gal , hmmmm..
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ExxonMobil is one entity. BTW, profit margins on a gallon of gasoline are not very high, and they could be worse. Use fuel efficient vehicles to show that we can be more knowledgeable consumers, and the prices will come down. It's all in the laws of supply and demand

Actually, I think that would have the opposite effect. If people don't buy as much gas due to vehicle efficiency, then I would think prices would go up for the companies to maintain their profit margins. :dontknow:
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It's all in the laws of supply and demand my friend. Right now we demand fuel, and the supply goes down(because Americans burn the outta it!!), and then prices go up. When we demand less fuel, the pressure on refineries is slightly relieved, and prices settle down. The price of gas and the demand for gas are directly proportional.
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i need to take the msf class, too bad my lisence is suspended :(

If you're 18+, it's irrelevant. You don't need a driver's license to take the course.

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Another aspect that you have to think about...if we were to organize a massive boycott of ExxonMobile around the country, what effect would that have on the other gasoline producers? Their gas (Valero, Shell, Chevron/Texxaco) would be in a higher demand, which would cause their prices to go up, and they wouldn't have as much gas to sell us, so what do you think they would do? ExxonMobile would start selling their gasoline to the other Companies, and then the other companies would have their supply back, the only thing it would do would be to RAISE the price of gasoline, just to support the profit line!

The best thing to do, like the others said, lower the demand for fuel...ride motorcycles, take Metro, or replace the SUV's with more efficient cars and trucks!
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It wont work these people like getting raped they just sit there sand watch them rape us with these prices and cannot even unite to fight gas prices,just a bunch of scared folks.I already tried to put together a gas strike,everybody has some bullshit excuse on how it wont work.I am a fighter and beleive in standing up for whats right even to death if need be.but Imm all alone on this one.Nobody beleive mlk at first either but he lead a fight for eqaulity and it worked.
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It's all in the laws of supply and demand my friend. Right now we demand fuel, and the supply goes down(because Americans burn the outta it!!), and then prices go up. When we demand less fuel, the pressure on refineries is slightly relieved, and prices settle down. The price of gas and the demand for gas are directly proportional.
To a certain extent, but I feel most of the current supply 'problems' are artificially created. But so far as anyone can tell, the demand it not greater than the supply. I don't remember seeing any stations without fuel recently. We did during the hurricane, that is a case of supply and demand affecting prices.

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