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Old 10-07-2009, 08:25 AM   #1
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license plate at the bike, is this legal?



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I would say no, suppose to be readable from the rear
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does the law saw readable? or just at the back.......

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TRC 502.409.

WRONG, FICTITIOUS, ALTERED, OR OBSCURED LICENSE PLATE.

(a) A person commits an offense if the person attaches to or displays on a motor vehicle a number plate or registration insignia that:

(1) is assigned to a different motor vehicle;

(2) is assigned to the vehicle under any other motor vehicle law other than by the department;

(3) is assigned for a registration period other than the registration period in effect;

(4) is fictitious;

(5) has blurring or reflective matter that significantly impairs the readability of the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered or the letters or numbers of the license plate number at any time ;

(6) has an attached illuminated device or sticker, decal, emblem, or other insignia that is not authorized by law and that interferes with the readability of the letters or numbers of the license plate number or the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered; or

(7) has a coating, covering, protective material, or other apparatus that:

(A) distorts angular visibility or detectability;

(B) alters or obscures one-half or more of the name of the state in which the vehicle is registered; or

(C) alters or obscures the letters or numbers of the license plate number or the color of the plate.

(b) Except as provided by Subsection (f), an offense under Subsection (a) is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not more than $200, unless it is shown at the trial of the offense that the owner knowingly altered or made illegible the letters, numbers, and other identification marks, in which case the offense is a Class B misdemeanor.

[double amendments to the same provision]

(c) *

[as added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., HB 1623]

A court may dismiss a charge brought under Subsection (a)(3), (5), (6), or (7) if the defendant:

(1) remedies the defect before the defendant's first court appearance; and

(2) pays an administrative fee not to exceed $10.

(c) *
*[as added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., SB 369]

Subsection (a)(7) may not be construed to apply to:

(1) a trailer hitch installed on a vehicle in a normal or customary manner;

(2) a transponder, as defined by Section 228.057, that is attached to a vehicle in the manner required by the issuing authority;

(3) a wheelchair lift or wheelchair carrier that is attached to a vehicle in a normal or customary manner;

(4) a trailer being towed by a vehicle; or

(5) a bicycle rack that is attached to a vehicle in a normal or customary manner.

(d), & (e)*

[*repealed by Acts 1997, 75th Leg.]

(f) An offense under Subsection (a)(4) is a Class B misdemeanor.



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TRC 548.255.

ATTACHMENT OR PRODUCTION OF INSPECTION CERTIFICATE.

(a) An inspection certificate shall be attached to or produced for a vehicle in the manner required by department rule.

(b) The department shall:

(1) require that a certificate for a motorcycle be attached to the rear of the motorcycle near the license plate; and

(2) adopt rules with respect to display of an inspection certificate for a moped.
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It doesn't seem like the law makes that illegal
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I don't see anything in there whatsoever that states where the license plate has to face the rear.
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Possibly this:

(A) distorts angular visibility or detectability;

Since lic. plate locations are specified by U.S. D.O.T. for the Mfr.s at the factory, it may have been "assumed" at the State level that people wouldn't change their locations therefore only the verbage about "angular visibility or detectability"
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There used to be something about had to be visible from 50 feet behind the vehicle

Me thinks there is more to the mounting requirements than what the OP listed...
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Possibly this:

(A) distorts angular visibility or detectability;

Since lic. plate locations are specified by U.S. D.O.T. for the Mfr.s at the factory, it may have been "assumed" at the State level that people wouldn't change their locations therefore only the verbage about "angular visibility or detectability"
key word there. That "distorts angular visibility or detectability" is a bunch of vague . It all boils down though to the fact that you will be constantly hassled by LEO's, so why bother. Thanks to the process our actions may not be defined by what's legal, and instead by what gets Johnny Law to leave us alone. Step out of line, get hassled.
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key word there. That "distorts angular visibility or detectability" is a bunch of vague . It all boils down though to the fact that you will be constantly hassled by LEO's, so why bother. Thanks to the process our actions may not be defined by what's legal, and instead by what gets Johnny Law to leave us alone. Step out of line, get hassled.
Hey, I didn't say I supported it, just explained how it probably is.
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There used to be something about had to be visible from 50 feet behind the vehicle

Me thinks there is more to the mounting requirements than what the OP listed...
You are correct. I cannot remember which exact section it is under but it is probably in the lighting section. The plate has to be able to be read from 50ft behind the vehicle. I found it a few months back.
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Hey, I didn't say I supported it, just explained how it probably is.
Trust me, I've got no love for the establishment, but if you learn how to read their rules, you can learn how to get around them work within them, without getting in a bind.
No doubt. I wasn't arguing against your statement, just expressing my discontent for vague statutes.
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mine's almost legal, both license and insp. are at the very back almost OE, but the guy i bought it from hacked the rear fender took off the light, so there's no light on it. if/when i get stopped for no light i'll fix it.
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All mine are, in the proper place with lights. One less thing to get hassled over
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Im with lurch. Everything on my bike is as the law requires. I dont care for any legal trouble or LEO harassment.
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Well, I would not place it there... More of the reason to pull you over!!
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its common sense, plate it to face rear. mine are legal. why not just put on the rear like its suppose to be
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its common sense, plate it to face rear. mine are legal. why not just put on the rear like its suppose to be
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