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Old 10-06-2009, 10:59 AM   #1
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Question Supermoto Tires

Doesn't seem to be a real big selection on 140 street tires.. lots of AT/dirt/dual tires.

My question is for those that are riding DRZ's or similiar bikes on the streets, what tires do you recommend? I dont take mine on the dirt so Im looking for a grippy street tire (not a race tire). Anybody put a 150 rear on a DRZ400SM?

Im pretty fond of the Pirelli DCIII's on the gsxr that I sold, although Ive run Michelins and Metz too.. Im just looking to replace the stock Dunlops on my 07 DRZ with something with a little more pavement grip. Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:06 AM   #2
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everyone speaks highly of the 016s. I haven't yet shed myself of the dunlops, and I have two more dunlop rears to burn through before I can experiment with another tire.
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I run Conti Force SM tires, $214 shipped to my door last order. And yes 150 rear. Some are running 160 Michelin PP, but I haven't gone down that path so I can't confirm.
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i had the conti-sms on another bike and really liked them.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:12 AM   #5
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Pilot powers. Thats what I run on my 450 and they kick .
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I was looking at the Conti SM tires, I may opt for those. Just wanted some input on putting a 150 rear on there... Ive never put a larger tire than stock on any bike Ive owned. The D208 seems to be the only 140 size street tire?
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Pilot powers. Thats what I run on my 450 and they kick .
what size are you running?
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What size is your rear rim? the 150's fit on a drz but they say not to go to 160, partly cause of a slight chain rub, but mostly cause your not supposed to put a 160 tire on a 4.25'' rim. You'd be squeezing the tire into the rim & instead of a nice curved contact patch youd have more of a 3 sided contact patch. This makes sense in my head, lemme see if i can demostrate via Ascii

Good tire shape ----> U

Bad tire shape -----> \_/

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*EDIT* I see now you have 400sm rims. Yes a 150 will fit. But you get the idea from above ^^^
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what size are you running?
I wanna say 140 or 150.
It's on a 4 1/4" rim.
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I've been running a 150 016 on my DRZ400SM with no problems.
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so..., are 016's are any stickier/softer than the contiforce sm's?

This is sad. I haven't even gotten my wheels shipped to me yet, & i'm already thinking about my next brand of tire. WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME SUPERMOTO?
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Very Nice. I get that, that's why I was asking about going to a 150. Thanks!!

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I've been running a 150 016 on my DRZ400SM with no problems.
A lot of people seem to like the 016 now that Ive done some searching on thumper talk and supermoto junkie

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so..., are 016's are any stickier/softer than the contiforce sm's?
Good question. Answers??
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I have a 5.0" rim on my WR450, and run a 160/60 Dragon Supercorsa Pro. Street & track duty. I do have quite a bit of chain rub though. Doesn't bother mt at the least. On the DRZ you have a few options.

BT003RS
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I was under the impression that the new ninja 250s have the same size of tires as most supermotos on 17' wheels. I say that because I was hoping to see more tires on the market.
I was looking yesterday at tires in motostrano and they have good descriptions on SM tires.
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The BT016 is WAY stickier than the Conti's. If you don't believe me, just feel the tire. My bike came with the Conti's and tried them for a couple of trips through the forest. They have a flatter profile and turn REAL slow. The grip isn't terrible, but it certainly wasn't awe inspiring.

I've had the Dragons on for 2 trackdays and maybe 800 miles. They still look good, not squared off any. Most of my street riding is backroads. No highway commuting.
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Great info John and everyone else. Gracias
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Wow, its been awhile since i've found useful info in a thread. props.
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Between the 003RS and the 016 what is the main difference? Talking about SM tires.
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Between the 003RS and the 016 what is the main difference? Talking about SM tires.
Both have dual compound fronts and triple compound rears. The carcass on the BT003RS is slightly more triangular. This is because the tire is more track (road course) focused than the BT016 (more street focused). This will make the BT003RS turn in faster, and offer more contact patch. With that said both of these work well on the street and track, with the BT003RS having a slight edge in traction and turning.

Also the BT003RS has a softer sidewall than the BT016. This will offer more mid-corner bump compliance.

With all of this said both the BT003RS and the BT016 work really well. They have slight differences that lend them to perform better than the other in different situations.....i.e. street or track.
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