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Old 09-21-2009, 12:28 PM   #1
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tire balancing

i bought a lightly used tire from a buddy that parted out his bike. its a bt014 (that was still on the rim) i think its stock off a late model gixxer. i took the tire off and went to____ to get it put on and balanced. when they gave it to me it had no weights on it, so i went back and ask then whats up on the balancing. the dude that did it showed me and told me that there is a marking on the tire that you line up with the valve stem and the tire is already balanced.

so i said cool and went on my way to return the rim to my buddy. while i was returning it i noticed that the rim also had some weights on it. so... im lost

i work on cars for a living so i do know a thing or two. i also understand that motorcycles are wayy different than cars but tire balancing is pretty much the same? yes? no? im not sure.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:30 PM   #2
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balancing is the same on cars and bikes
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sometimes they dont require weights, i just had a brand new PP rear put on and it didnt require any weights, but the last tire did. Just depends on the tire. And yes your supposed to line up the mrk on the tire with the valve stem, but that doesnt mean its ballanced.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:14 PM   #5
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thats what i thought. it does need weights. my old rim /tire was a 200 (previous owner) with 6 inch wheel had weights on the center edge and the new tire was a 180 5.5 inch rim (i think) also had weights on it.

tech that put it on just told me that it didnt need it cuz of lining up the mark. not to be confused with not needed weights cuz its perfect, cuz he didnt tell me that..... soo... recommendations?? where to now? im atSE side 45 and bw8
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My front wheel balanced 0.00 on the left on like .25 on the right(dynamic). It is possible, but usually will take at least a little bit of weight.
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The dot on the tire is the lightest part of the tire. That is to be put at the valve stem. The valve stem is assumed to be the heaviest part of the wheel. Every tire/wheel combo should be balanced.
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All wheel/tire combinations need to be balanced period. The dots and valve stem methods are mediocre at best.

If you are really concerned, and/or you are feeling some kind of shimmy or shake above 30mph and very noticeable around 60-75mph, have another shop balance it and ask to see the wheel "zero'ed" out. That speed range is common for unbalanced tires. Anything under 30-35mph would indicate a bent wheel, separated tire, etc. Put the rear up on a stand and spin it fast to make sure the tire runs smooth around.
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They should have put it on the balancing machine (if they didn't) and balance it. Sometimes the tires come out perfectly balanced and don't need weights. But it is basically the same for a car or truck as it is a motorcycle tire. As long as the bead is set on there right and it's balanced, you should be good to go.
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They should have put it on the balancing machine (if they didn't) and balance it. Sometimes the tires come out perfectly balanced and don't need weights. But it is basically the same for a car or truck as it is a motorcycle tire. As long as the bead is set on there right and it's balanced, you should be good to go.
i'll see if i can feel any shaking on the freeway, rode to school today but didnt notice much (wasnt looking for shakes, was more focused on riding)

only thing the tech said when i asked why there were no weights (which = no balance in most cases) was "it doesnt need it b/c the tire is balanced from the factory and lining mark on the tire up with the stem makes it balanced"

sunny isnt too far from me, ima check out his place after work today see what they have to offer
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I still don't know how those work, it doesn't make sense to me.
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i'll see if i can feel any shaking on the freeway, rode to school today but didnt notice much (wasnt looking for shakes, was more focused on riding)

only thing the tech said when i asked why there were no weights (which = no balance in most cases) was "it doesnt need it b/c the tire is balanced from the factory and lining mark on the tire up with the stem makes it balanced"

sunny isnt too far from me, ima check out his place after work today see what they have to offer
tires don't just come from the factory balanced, sounds like they didn't put it on the balance machine and were being straight up lazy. It doesn't take more than 5 min to balance a motorcycle tire and they should have. It's not all too often that a tire balances out perfectly without any weights. That dude is on crack. If you even feel like it might be out of whack take it to a trusted dealer and have them take a look. Just my 2 cents.

Bob lunsfords northwest honda or Motorcycles Unlimited would be a great start.

Hope i could help.
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+1 You are correct sir!

A tire should be balanced AT LEAST within .25 of an ounce. I've actually balanced out using .10 tape-weights before. I highly doubt he could have eyeballed that....
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kdog thanks for the help. so i went to sunny's today aka kg (sp?) motorsports??? is that right?? according to MH they are open monday, went by there like 6:20pm today and they had hours listed as sun/mon closed. same address... but different name. am i going to the same place here?
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Bob lunsfords northwest honda or Motorcycles Unlimited would be a great start.

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thats past the other side of the beltway! from what i've read their service is A+ but the drive out there for me is just plain nuts..especially for just a tire...
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