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Old 09-18-2009, 01:58 PM   #1
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Arrow Rossi: 800cc MotoGP's biggest mistake for 15 years

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Valentino Rossi has labelled the decision to cut MotoGP engine capacity from 990cc to 800cc for 2007 as 'the biggest mistake in the last 15 years'.

In an interview with Dennis Noyes for Spain's Motociclismo publication, the reigning six time MotoGP world champion - a premier-class title winner on a 500cc two-stroke, then 990cc and 800cc four-strokes - stated:

“The 990 motorcycle was 'rough' and wild, but with a great motor and a lot power. The 800 is worse, simply worse, it is the same motorcycle with less power. I was very sad at the beginning, now it has improved, yes... But the power from the 990 made it a lot more fun".

Rossi was then asked how the show can be improved for fans watching trackside and on TV - and has answer made painful reading for those behind the change to 800cc.

"For me the spectacle with the 990 was the same as with the 500. There were big battles and large slides - this is what the public wants, no? The 990 slid a lot on the entry to the turns, but above all on the exit of the corners.

“With the 800... I believe that the 800 are the biggest mistake the world championship has made in the last 15 years. We have lost a great part of the spectacle and part of this is because electronics have advanced so much.

“For me the manufacturers committed a great error when they changed to 800cc. The 990s were better in every way.”

The cut in engine capacity was designed to limit top speeds, but has resulted in higher cornering speeds and greater dependency on electronics.

To rub salt into the wound, Dani Pedrosa took his factory Honda to a new all-time Motorcycle Grand Prix top speed of 349.3 km/h in the opening practice session for this year's Italian Grand Prix.

No satellite rider has yet won an 800cc race, while it took until this year's Catalan Grand Prix for an 800cc race to be won with a last lap pass.
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Now even the GOAT is publicly saying it,
**** off the 800's and electronic rider aids and lets go back to the 990's, pleeeeeeeeeeaaasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssse
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:01 PM   #2
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power slide anyone
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:05 PM   #3
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and probably the most badass, coolest slide of them all.......
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:07 PM   #4
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and then there's McCoy pouring it on

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Old 09-18-2009, 02:12 PM   #5
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:21 PM   #6
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cars is to drifting as powerslide is to motorcycles.

Im sure it takes lots of exp and control to do those. Dayumn.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:26 PM   #7
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Powersliding is mucho fun, I've done it a good couple of times not to that extreme but it always gets your blood pumping.

Also drifting much more fun to watch when done on 2 wheels than 4.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:35 PM   #9
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Has much as I don't like electronic aids, it does lower lap times and that's a pretty huge agrument to keep them.

However, it does take the satelite teams out of the picture for the most part. That's a really strong argument to get rid of them.

If you ask me.......if The Doctor says they should do it......then it should be done.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:37 PM   #10
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Eh....that color hurts my eyes.
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This like the controversy that arose when F1 introduced traction control. people where complaining that F1 was no longer quite as staggering without all the drama of the cars spinning out and drifting in the corners. they got rid of it.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:44 PM   #12
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Wonder why he waited till now to complain?
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:50 PM   #13
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ya bring that back
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What about Pearland's John Haner sliding it through turn 3 at Texas World....


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What about Pearland's John Haner sliding it through turn 3 at Texas World....


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Old 09-18-2009, 04:56 PM   #16
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:59 PM   #18
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I've seen an interview of Ben Spies where he says he enjoys riding the WSBK bikes more than the MotoGP ones. He mentioned the electronics and lack of movement in the bike about why he doesn't like the bikes or the racing as much. Plus, he said that with the electonics his weight is a handicap in MotoGP, where it's actually an advantage in WSBK.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:56 AM   #19
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I'm 100% convinced that part of the reason for going to the smaller bikes was to make it easier for the 250 guys to transition to Moto GP. Back in the days of the 500 two strokes and the 990's it was much more rare to see someone come from the 250 class and be instantly competitive in Moto GP (not counting Rossi). Now, it's much more common to see former 250 guys have success much sooner, i.e. Dovi, Lorenzo, etc. Not saying they wouldn't be doing well, but it just seems that the learning curve between the two classes is not as steep as it used to be. Look at some of Jorge's wrecks from last year. If his highside in China had occurred on the 990, he'd still be orbiting the earth today. , a few years back when Roger Hayden road the the Kawasaki GP bike in the Laguna race, one of his first comments was how surprisingly tame the GP bike felt and that his AMA 10R felt scarier. They never should have went down in size....GP bikes should be the scariest most nasty two wheeled creations possible that only those with the most skill and biggest can ride..
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:30 AM   #20
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before long they'll be racing simulation bikes
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