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Old 09-16-2009, 09:54 AM   #21
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I ride a cruiser,but ride out to the forest with friendsfrom time to time.
I love the curves & a bit of speed.
One thing is knowing your limits of your bike & your own riding skills.
When i hit tripple digits on my bike, it is usually on a straight line on a safe road, if there is such a thing as a safe public road.
Guess praying & common snese have kept me safe for the most part.
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1. I try to give myself a margin of error at all times, on the street in turns I stay on the inside in case I run wide

2. follow your gut, if you don't feel right about it then be extra carefull

3. stay in touch with reality, I know what will happen if I go down

4. cars are my enemy, IF I'm riding at night then I want to ride somewhere that I have as few cars to compete with as possible

5. I do my best to learn what my bike is capable of and keep it in good condition too

6. when I pass I want as much visibility as possible, I also keep in mind what the car I'm passing might do

7. (and for me personally) I am VERY aware of my surroundings, road hazards, tucks that might have poorly restrained loads, cars around me, cars I've passed, cars I intend to pass long before I do and anything else

8. Look as far through the turn as possible while paying attention to road condition. All it takes is a little patch of loose gravel and you can be on your if your not ready for it.
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1. I try to give myself a margin of error at all times, on the street in turns I stay on the inside in case I run wide

2. follow your gut, if you don't feel right about it then be extra carefull

3. stay in touch with reality, I know what will happen if I go down

4. cars are my enemy, IF I'm riding at night then I want to ride somewhere that I have as few cars to compete with as possible

5. I do my best to learn what my bike is capable of and keep it in good condition too

6. when I pass I want as much visibility as possible, I also keep in mind what the car I'm passing might do

7. (and for me personally) I am VERY aware of my surroundings, road hazards, tucks that might have poorly restrained loads, cars around me, cars I've passed, cars I intend to pass long before I do and anything else

8. Look as far through the turn as possible while paying attention to road condition. All it takes is a little patch of loose gravel and you can be on your if your not ready for it.

9. LEARN to ride the streets and blind corners. Learn to look through a corner while still scanning it and watch the inside paint strip whether it turns away and disappears or opens the corner up. Slow in, fast out. Never pass in a corner. Ride with people that leave enough space around you and can ride within visible distance of you; not people that will push you if you have an ego, but friends that will be willing to adjust their ride to you IF you arent riding at their pace that day. Know your bike, know your gear, know yourself.

10. Ride no more then 70-75% of your level on the streets because the road isnt the only obstacle you will have to address.
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OK, I don't know how "worthy" my contribution is here but.....I know I can't handle the triple digits speed flying through turns, so I just don't do it.
MHO Miss Mel this is a very honest and respectable answer. This shows your respect for yourself, the limitations you are willing to set, and your ability. See sig belowVVV
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im not talking about anyone that is no longer with us bc some were pretty skilled.

however, and this is just my opinion and im not referring to myself either, bc i was pretty slow on the streets/ a turtle next to u fellas.

--u2 and a few others are more gifted and more educated on ur machine then others. Especially when it comes to streets. Some, just by chance dont wreck on some rides, but they arent smart enough to be able to repeat chance like that everytime. More ppl can go fast on a track with such open space then a street road with single lanes. Street takes a particular set of skills-especially at those speeds. I think some of the folks possess a gift and talent that many others cant measure up to.
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have a chance to ride the road at a tame pace the first time through. We didn't just roll 3090 at speed the first day. We know these routs pretty well.

have an experienced leader to follow for a bit. I can lead someone through the forest if they got skills they will hang no surprises.
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1. I try to give myself a margin of error at all times, on the street in turns I stay on the inside in case I run wide

2. follow your gut, if you don't feel right about it then be extra carefull

3. stay in touch with reality, I know what will happen if I go down

4. cars are my enemy, IF I'm riding at night then I want to ride somewhere that I have as few cars to compete with as possible

5. I do my best to learn what my bike is capable of and keep it in good condition too

6. when I pass I want as much visibility as possible, I also keep in mind what the car I'm passing might do

7. (and for me personally) I am VERY aware of my surroundings, road hazards, tucks that might have poorly restrained loads, cars around me, cars I've passed, cars I intend to pass long before I do and anything else

8. Look as far through the turn as possible while paying attention to road condition. All it takes is a little patch of loose gravel and you can be on your if your not ready for it.

9. LEARN to ride the streets and blind corners. Learn to look through a corner while still scanning it and watch the inside paint strip whether it turns away and disappears or opens the corner up. Slow in, fast out. Never pass in a corner. Ride with people that leave enough space around you and can ride within visible distance of you; not people that will push you if you have an ego, but friends that will be willing to adjust their ride to you IF you arent riding at their pace that day. Know your bike, know your gear, know yourself.

10. Ride no more then 70-75% of your level on the streets because the road isnt the only obstacle you will have to address.

11. Pray before the ride. Every car I see I pretend will do the stupidest thing possible so I give myself an escape route in every instance I can.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:49 AM   #29
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1. I try to give myself a margin of error at all times, on the street in turns I stay on the inside in case I run wide

2. follow your gut, if you don't feel right about it then be extra carefull

3. stay in touch with reality, I know what will happen if I go down

4. cars are my enemy, IF I'm riding at night then I want to ride somewhere that I have as few cars to compete with as possible

5. I do my best to learn what my bike is capable of and keep it in good condition too

6. when I pass I want as much visibility as possible, I also keep in mind what the car I'm passing might do

7. (and for me personally) I am VERY aware of my surroundings, road hazards, tucks that might have poorly restrained loads, cars around me, cars I've passed, cars I intend to pass long before I do and anything else

8. Look as far through the turn as possible while paying attention to road condition. All it takes is a little patch of loose gravel and you can be on your if your not ready for it.

9. LEARN to ride the streets and blind corners. Learn to look through a corner while still scanning it and watch the inside paint strip whether it turns away and disappears or opens the corner up. Slow in, fast out. Never pass in a corner. Ride with people that leave enough space around you and can ride within visible distance of you; not people that will push you if you have an ego, but friends that will be willing to adjust their ride to you IF you arent riding at their pace that day. Know your bike, know your gear, know yourself.

10. Ride no more then 70-75% of your level on the streets because the road isnt the only obstacle you will have to address.

11. Pray before the ride. Every car I see I pretend will do the stupidest thing possible so I give myself an escape route in every instance I can.[/QUOTE]

12. I dont ride any road at a "spirited" pace that I can't ride in my mind (eyes closed)

13. I anticipate that every vehicle I pass is going to swerve into me and that every intersection will have a car pulling out in front of me

14. Travel 5mph faster than the speed limit
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1. I try to give myself a margin of error at all times, on the street in turns I stay on the inside in case I run wide

2. follow your gut, if you don't feel right about it then be extra carefull

3. stay in touch with reality, I know what will happen if I go down

4. cars are my enemy, IF I'm riding at night then I want to ride somewhere that I have as few cars to compete with as possible

5. I do my best to learn what my bike is capable of and keep it in good condition too

6. when I pass I want as much visibility as possible, I also keep in mind what the car I'm passing might do

7. (and for me personally) I am VERY aware of my surroundings, road hazards, tucks that might have poorly restrained loads, cars around me, cars I've passed, cars I intend to pass long before I do and anything else

8. Look as far through the turn as possible while paying attention to road condition. All it takes is a little patch of loose gravel and you can be on your if your not ready for it.

9. LEARN to ride the streets and blind corners. Learn to look through a corner while still scanning it and watch the inside paint strip whether it turns away and disappears or opens the corner up. Slow in, fast out. Never pass in a corner. Ride with people that leave enough space around you and can ride within visible distance of you; not people that will push you if you have an ego, but friends that will be willing to adjust their ride to you IF you arent riding at their pace that day. Know your bike, know your gear, know yourself.

10. Ride no more then 70-75% of your level on the streets because the road isnt the only obstacle you will have to address.

11. Pray before the ride. Every car I see I pretend will do the stupidest thing possible so I give myself an escape route in every instance I can.[/quote]

12. I dont ride any road at a "spirited" pace that I can't ride in my mind (eyes closed)

13. I anticipate that every vehicle I pass is going to swerve into me and that every intersection will have a car pulling out in front of me

14. Travel 5mph faster than the speed limit

15. Cover your brakes in situations that seem questionable

16. Be in the right gear to speed up or engine break

17. Check over your shoulders, mirrors are never 100% accurate

18. Dont go over hills at 160mph, you never know whats on the other side
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im not talking about anyone that is no longer with us bc some were pretty skilled.

however, and this is just my opinion and im not referring to myself either, bc i was pretty slow on the streets/ a turtle next to u fellas.

--u2 and a few others are more gifted and more educated on ur machine then others. Especially when it comes to streets. Some, just by chance dont wreck on some rides, but they arent smart enough to be able to repeat chance like that everytime. More ppl can go fast on a track with such open space then a street road with single lanes. Street takes a particular set of skills-especially at those speeds. I think some of the folks possess a gift and talent that many others cant measure up to.
this is a very true statement. has alot to do with the street scenario. also like dustin said, ride with friends or people you know.
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1. I try to give myself a margin of error at all times, on the street in turns I stay on the inside in case I run wide

2. follow your gut, if you don't feel right about it then be extra carefull

3. stay in touch with reality, I know what will happen if I go down

4. cars are my enemy, IF I'm riding at night then I want to ride somewhere that I have as few cars to compete with as possible

5. I do my best to learn what my bike is capable of and keep it in good condition too

6. when I pass I want as much visibility as possible, I also keep in mind what the car I'm passing might do

7. (and for me personally) I am VERY aware of my surroundings, road hazards, tucks that might have poorly restrained loads, cars around me, cars I've passed, cars I intend to pass long before I do and anything else

8. Look as far through the turn as possible while paying attention to road condition. All it takes is a little patch of loose gravel and you can be on your if your not ready for it.

9. LEARN to ride the streets and blind corners. Learn to look through a corner while still scanning it and watch the inside paint strip whether it turns away and disappears or opens the corner up. Slow in, fast out. Never pass in a corner. Ride with people that leave enough space around you and can ride within visible distance of you; not people that will push you if you have an ego, but friends that will be willing to adjust their ride to you IF you arent riding at their pace that day. Know your bike, know your gear, know yourself.

10. Ride no more then 70-75% of your level on the streets because the road isnt the only obstacle you will have to address.

11. Pray before the ride. Every car I see I pretend will do the stupidest thing possible so I give myself an escape route in every instance I can.[/quote]

12. I dont ride any road at a "spirited" pace that I can't ride in my mind (eyes closed)

13. I anticipate that every vehicle I pass is going to swerve into me and that every intersection will have a car pulling out in front of me

14. Travel 5mph faster than the speed limit

15. Cover your brakes in situations that seem questionable

16. Be in the right gear to speed up or engine break

17. Check over your shoulders, mirrors are never 100% accurate

18. Dont go over hills at 160mph, you never know whats on the other side

19. Do track days.
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1. I try to give myself a margin of error at all times, on the street in turns I stay on the inside in case I run wide

2. follow your gut, if you don't feel right about it then be extra carefull

3. stay in touch with reality, I know what will happen if I go down

4. cars are my enemy, IF I'm riding at night then I want to ride somewhere that I have as few cars to compete with as possible

5. I do my best to learn what my bike is capable of and keep it in good condition too

6. when I pass I want as much visibility as possible, I also keep in mind what the car I'm passing might do

7. (and for me personally) I am VERY aware of my surroundings, road hazards, tucks that might have poorly restrained loads, cars around me, cars I've passed, cars I intend to pass long before I do and anything else

8. Look as far through the turn as possible while paying attention to road condition. All it takes is a little patch of loose gravel and you can be on your if your not ready for it.

9. LEARN to ride the streets and blind corners. Learn to look through a corner while still scanning it and watch the inside paint strip whether it turns away and disappears or opens the corner up. Slow in, fast out. Never pass in a corner. Ride with people that leave enough space around you and can ride within visible distance of you; not people that will push you if you have an ego, but friends that will be willing to adjust their ride to you IF you arent riding at their pace that day. Know your bike, know your gear, know yourself.

10. Ride no more then 70-75% of your level on the streets because the road isnt the only obstacle you will have to address.

11. Pray before the ride. Every car I see I pretend will do the stupidest thing possible so I give myself an escape route in every instance I can.
12. I dont ride any road at a "spirited" pace that I can't ride in my mind (eyes closed)

13. I anticipate that every vehicle I pass is going to swerve into me and that every intersection will have a car pulling out in front of me

14. Travel 5mph faster than the speed limit

15. Cover your brakes in situations that seem questionable

16. Be in the right gear to speed up or engine break

17. Check over your shoulders, mirrors are never 100% accurate

18. Dont go over hills at 160mph, you never know whats on the other side

19. Do RIDESMART track days.[/QUOTE]

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1. I try to give myself a margin of error at all times, on the street in turns I stay on the inside in case I run wide

2. follow your gut, if you don't feel right about it then be extra carefull

3. stay in touch with reality, I know what will happen if I go down

4. cars are my enemy, IF I'm riding at night then I want to ride somewhere that I have as few cars to compete with as possible

5. I do my best to learn what my bike is capable of and keep it in good condition too

6. when I pass I want as much visibility as possible, I also keep in mind what the car I'm passing might do

7. (and for me personally) I am VERY aware of my surroundings, road hazards, tucks that might have poorly restrained loads, cars around me, cars I've passed, cars I intend to pass long before I do and anything else

8. Look as far through the turn as possible while paying attention to road condition. All it takes is a little patch of loose gravel and you can be on your if your not ready for it.

9. LEARN to ride the streets and blind corners. Learn to look through a corner while still scanning it and watch the inside paint strip whether it turns away and disappears or opens the corner up. Slow in, fast out. Never pass in a corner. Ride with people that leave enough space around you and can ride within visible distance of you; not people that will push you if you have an ego, but friends that will be willing to adjust their ride to you IF you arent riding at their pace that day. Know your bike, know your gear, know yourself.

10. Ride no more then 70-75% of your level on the streets because the road isnt the only obstacle you will have to address.

11. Pray before the ride. Every car I see I pretend will do the stupidest thing possible so I give myself an escape route in every instance I can.
12. I dont ride any road at a "spirited" pace that I can't ride in my mind (eyes closed)

13. I anticipate that every vehicle I pass is going to swerve into me and that every intersection will have a car pulling out in front of me

14. Travel 5mph faster than the speed limit

15. Cover your brakes in situations that seem questionable

16. Be in the right gear to speed up or engine break

17. Check over your shoulders, mirrors are never 100% accurate

18. Dont go over hills at 160mph, you never know whats on the other side

19. Do track days.[/QUOTE]

20. Learn from past mistakes and experiences
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OK, I don't know how "worthy" my contribution is here but.....I know I can't handle the triple digits speed flying through turns, so I just don't do it.
Knowing your honest limits and practicing the self restraint to not exceed them are probably two of the most important ones actually.

To whoever said they'd rather be dead if they wrecked at 100+ you're crazy.



I ride like a little now sadly. I haven't been on the bike in a month, and I honestly can't remember the last twisty road I rode down. Considering how much fun I used to have on 1291 that's probably a good thing.
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