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Old 04-11-2006, 12:46 PM   #21
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he Kroger Co. today announced that 18 of its fuel stations in Texas will sell E85 fuel.

E85 is a blend of 15 percent gasoline and 85 percent ethanol, which is a renewable, domestic fuel. The use of E85 is thought to reduce greenhouse gases and the nation's dependence on petroleum.

Texas leads the nation with more than 250,000 E85 flexible fuel vehicles on the road. E85 flexible fuel vehicles can use both traditional gasoline and E85.

Kroger is making the station improvements needed to offer E85 in Dallas and Houston this summer, and more Kroger fuel centers could offer E85 as consumer demand grows, the company stated. Kroger will price E85 ethanol lower than regular, unleaded gasoline, and Kroger Plus Card customers receive the additional per gallon savings offered on all types of fuel.

Kroger operates more than 500 supermarket fueling stations nationwide, including more than 60 in Texas, all of which are located next to Kroger retail grocery stores. Kroger also operates more than 700 convenience-store fueling sites.
Does Ricky work for Kroger on the side?:laughing6 :laughing6
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Old 04-11-2006, 03:07 PM   #22
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wow ricky you have tons of info there for kroger did you find out anything elce maybe the diffrence in price...

10cents isnt going to do much for me....but 40cents might...
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why is everyone saying the e85 stuff is cheaper, I thought prices were going up
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i heard you can get drunk w/ ethanol
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The federal government is phasing out MTBE, an additive that makes gas burn cleaner. Refiners will no longer be required to use it as of May 5th.

The top replacement is Ethanol, made from grain and distilled into a gas additive.
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i filled up at a citgo earlier, and at the pump it said

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yeah shell now is putting 10% ethanol in there gas too. u cant run 100% in bikes b\c the fuel system can not take it. it will ruin the o rings and the screens. to convert the bike u would have to change all the rubber peaces in the fuel system. if u have carbs u have to change the fuel lines out to a special type of fuel lines. anything above 60% i think u have to change parts out.
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yeah shell now is putting 10% ethanol in there gas too. u cant run 100% in bikes b\c the fuel system can not take it. it will ruin the o rings and the screens. to convert the bike u would have to change all the rubber peaces in the fuel system. if u have carbs u have to change the fuel lines out to a special type of fuel lines. anything above 60% i think u have to change parts out.
If the gas you put in today has 10% ethanol, will there be any noticeable change in performance? Will bikes need to start adding octane boost additive to their gas to maintain performance..sounds to me like ethanol is going to be the future of fuel for a while.
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Here is an interesting article....

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gas station near my house said "contains 10% ethol"
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If the gas you put in today has 10% ethanol, will there be any noticeable change in performance? Will bikes need to start adding octane boost additive to their gas to maintain performance..sounds to me like ethanol is going to be the future of fuel for a while.
Ethanol raises the RON of gas.
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Here is an interesting article....

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That was an interesting article 3D02.
The one thing that is being overlooked here is the environmental side of this issue. E85 is a cleaner burning fuel than gasoline. And it is also a renewable source of energy ie cash crops for farmers. This stuff is made from corn! for crying out loud. I would bet that as the popularity of E85 picks up , the government will notice this. So will the automakers . It seems like a viable fuel alternative.
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Yea me and my dad where talking about this (super smart guy) i wasnt aware that ethonal could be made right here...Just seems plain stupid for us to be paying all of this money to other countries when we could be giving it right back to our farmers.....Also not having to depend on them for the oil as much...

I would really really liek to see them implement this more...He also said that it was much better fuel for the atmospeare.....

Very interesting i think we should get a poll togeather and send it to the the officals couldnt hurt anything.
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Doesnt save us , takes as much fuel to produce the corn as it saves blending it with gasoline. Just more pork barrel for the farmers and ADM. Robbing Peter to pay Paul, et al.
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It saves the atmosphere, duhhh. And as far a pork barrel and ADM. I would rather the money be generated by this industry stay in the states , rather than made in say ,Argentina for example. There was story on CNN how Argentina has been producing their own ethanol and they seem to be doing well with it. Why cant we do the same?
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It saves the atmosphere, duhhh. And as far a pork barrel and ADM. I would rather the money be generated by this industry stay in the states , rather than made in say ,Argentina for example. There was story on CNN how Argentina has been producing their own ethanol and they seem to be doing well with it. Why cant we do the same?
Saves the atmosphere from what exactly...any combustion process produces carbon dioxide, greenhouse gas #1. Ethanol also produces about 1/3 the BTU's per volume as gasoline, requiring more ethanol to produce the same power.

Argentina is also about a 10th of the population of the US with probably 1/500th of the automobiles and industry.

Forgive my negativity, but I lived in Chicago Illinois for many years and got earfuls of this corn propaganda so it's nothing new to me. I'll go for Fischer-Tropsch coal gasification long before this ethanol pipe dream. That'll go further to wean the US off foreign oil than corn huskers could ever dream of.
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your forgiven. Anything that would get us off foreign oil dependancy I am willing to give my attention to.
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Anything that would get us off foreign oil dependancy I am willing to give my attention to.
So why the does ethanol get your attention... ADD? It will NEVER get us off foreign oil. Add up the subsidies, the tax breaks, the lower energy per volume, the cost to produce through distillation...there is absolutely no net gain here. Same with hydrogen power.

The only thing proven through modern history to end dependance on foreign oil is fischer-tropsch. Germany and Apartheid South Africa used coal to produce gasoline and diesel. We have much more coal reserves than petroleum, this is the only thing that makes sense.
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E85 is pretty common in the midwest, we run it when were up there, seems to have no effect on the car, so i bet you could just put it in the bike w/o probs.
you can do a search, the only filling spot if JFK I think if I remember correctly and its not for public.
out west they use it to run high boost on cars
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So why the does ethanol get your attention... ADD? It will NEVER get us off foreign oil. Add up the subsidies, the tax breaks, the lower energy per volume, the cost to produce through distillation...there is absolutely no net gain here. Same with hydrogen power.

The only thing proven through modern history to end dependance on foreign oil is fischer-tropsch. Germany and Apartheid South Africa used coal to produce gasoline and diesel. We have much more coal reserves than petroleum, this is the only thing that makes sense.
Proven??? if its such a hot idea, why isnt it in use??Jackass. Add..
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