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Old 09-15-2009, 12:57 AM   #21
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:57 AM   #22
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i clutchless upshift, never tried clutchless downshift. to afraid to screw that one up and eat it.
I clutchless upshift as well!!! Granted, I have a quickshifter
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:03 AM   #24
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:06 AM   #25
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one more quick threadjack since we're talking about the carousel. is it plausible to carry 100mph into carousel and still have chicken strips?
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:49 AM   #27
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i clutchless upshift, never tried clutchless downshift. to afraid to screw that one up and eat it.
if you are running normal shift patterns it is easier to clutchless back shift than up shifft. You jus close throttle for .1 second and press down! Try it on the street and you will see. Most bikes nowadays have slipper clutches so minimum rear tire slide! It's actually fun to slide the rear going into a turn. Also helps you get through the corner quicker. And no I am not talking about backing it in, but maybe this is the beginning of learning that.
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one more quick threadjack since we're talking about the carousel. is it plausible to carry 100mph into carousel and still have chicken strips?
not likely but possible. Some of the faster guys are going thru there at 100 mph plus and have max lean angle.
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Well i had my spedo open and i was going into it at about 105-110 and settled down til about 70 right before the second apex then, I was letting myself go wide to hit that black spot and then down shifting as i flick my bike over to take that right. so I would wind up in second and getting on the gas. (it kept pushing me over that hump with the black and yellow stripes) but it was kinda cool made a little bit of a ramp. haha)
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I used to carry 3rd into the carousel and then down shift to second as I flicked the bike to the right for the chicane leading onto the front straight. I had Larry ride my bike and found that he was downshifting clear to first (keep in mind I'm only down 1 in the front and a stock rear sprocket) and carrying first through the carousel.

After watching what he was doing on video / data acquisition, I changed. I now grab two gears and enter the carousel in second and carry it through to the front straight. It's in a great part of the revs. Midway down the front straight I sometimes grab third.... just depends.

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It seems that this is my weakest point at the track.

I do fine in the carousel itself, its one of the places i feel most comfortable passing, but in the series of little turns leading into the pit straight, i feel out of whack, and almost always I'm in too high of a gear to make a good drive out to the pit straight, and waste time downshifting where that little speedbump area is.

For those with 600's, can you walk me through your gear selection from the carousel, onto the pit straight.

I'm almost certain that I can pick up a second or so just by having a better gear selection in that particular area.
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I used to carry 3rd into the carousel and then down shift to second as I flicked the bike to the right for the chicane leading onto the front straight. I had Larry ride my bike and found that he was downshifting clear to first (keep in mind I'm only down 1 in the front and a stock rear sprocket) and carrying first through the carousel.

After watching what he was doing on video / data acquisition, I changed. I now grab two gears and enter the carousel in second and carry it through to the front straight. It's in a great part of the revs. Midway down the front straight I sometimes grab third.... just depends.

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Way to tell him how to run a NEW LITRE bike through the carousel when he is riding a fcukin dinosaur 600.........sure that helped him out a lot Curt
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Way to tell him how to run a NEW LITRE bike through the carousel when he is riding a fcukin dinosaur 600.........sure that helped him out a lot Curt
Well, Paul is running a kinda old-ish 6 and Dustin is on a dinosaur.....
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I used to carry 3rd into the carousel and then down shift to second as I flicked the bike to the right for the chicane leading onto the front straight. I had Larry ride my bike and found that he was downshifting clear to first (keep in mind I'm only down 1 in the front and a stock rear sprocket) and carrying first through the carousel.

After watching what he was doing on video / data acquisition, I changed. I now grab two gears and enter the carousel in second and carry it through to the front straight. It's in a great part of the revs. Midway down the front straight I sometimes grab third.... just depends.

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Old 09-16-2009, 06:59 PM   #34
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I used to carry 3rd into the carousel and then down shift to second as I flicked the bike to the right for the chicane leading onto the front straight. I had Larry ride my bike and found that he was downshifting clear to first (keep in mind I'm only down 1 in the front and a stock rear sprocket) and carrying first through the carousel.

After watching what he was doing on video / data acquisition, I changed. I now grab two gears and enter the carousel in second and carry it through to the front straight. It's in a great part of the revs. Midway down the front straight I sometimes grab third.... just depends.

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Curt, what is your gearing (15 and 42 or something?)?

I just wanna make sure I'm not gonna hit 2nd and slide the rear too much...
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I'd be willing to bet 2nd is a good choice for MudBug.



1. He isn't that fast (I'm not either, so no offense guy) so 2nd praly won't be too low.

2. Although geared lower, a 600 can and needs to rev higher than a 1K.

3. I've found gear choices similar on my taller-geared 1K vs. my lower-geared 600.

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Way to tell him how to run a NEW LITRE bike through the carousel when he is riding a fcukin dinosaur 600.........sure that helped him out a lot Curt
Don't be such a douche bag. My example was one of learning to carry a lower gear through the carousel to avoid the downshift at the right into the chicane.
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Curt, what is your gearing (15 and 42 or something?)?

I just wanna make sure I'm not gonna hit 2nd and slide the rear too much...
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I'm one down on the front sprocket, stock on the rear. That would make it a 16/43, I believe.
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first off, i'm not fast...high high 1:40's out there...but i ride that whole track in 3rd gear. besides the back straight and front straight...i bump into 4th for about 5-10 seconds then shift and blip back to 3rd a split second before my braking points.
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600 RR geared 15/45............six to fourth entering the carousel, carry fourth until just before the flop right onto pit straight, drop to third for the drive out.
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600 RR geared 15/45............six to fourth entering the carousel, carry fourth until just before the flop right onto pit straight, drop to third for the drive out.
the bike is -1/+2 if it matters at all
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