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Old 09-18-2009, 03:11 PM   #41
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They're dropping the supersport team, I don't think they are doing the same with superbike, are they?
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:02 PM   #42
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Another good read, almost confirming....

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2009..._squad_in.html
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It's not what she said it's what she didn't say. She didn't say that he wouldn't be signing for MotoGP if he wins the championship this year...
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I say if he wins WSBK this year he'll go. Gotta do the rookie year sooner or later before you get to ride factory, and he's already 25. A few years behind Pedrosa and Lorenzo.
Gotta love silly season, without the Ben factor it would be a pretty boring year. A lot of other guys rides could hinge on his decision too. This should add fuel to this weekends races, comentators will be going nuts. Can't wait for the first practice!
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If Ben goes next year and does his time on the satellite team. What happens in 2011 when they have Rossi, Lorenzo, and Spies all wanting a factory ride? I know Rossi is confirmed through 2010 only and there are rumors about Rossi on Ducati in 2011. If the money is there, is Yamaha allowed to have three factory riders? It's a tough choice between all three, but if one of them has to go, I hope it's J-Lo.
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...and there are rumors about Rossi on Ducati in 2011...
There's no way in I see that heppening. Rossi will retire on a Yamaha. Ducati can't pay Rossi enough to be on a Ducati.
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There's no way in I see that heppening. Rossi will retire on a Yamaha. Ducati can't pay Rossi enough to be on a Ducati.
What makes you say that? I mean, its not like the M1 is the only bike he's won a championship on in GPs....
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What makes you say that? I mean, its not like the M1 is the only bike he's won a championship on in GPs....
Rossi likes Yamaha too much and they like (ie- need) Rossi too much. No way Yamaha fcuks that up. (like HRC/Honda did)

Aside from Casey's first year on the 800s, Ducati has never had great success in GP and I don't think they will anytime soon. Moto GP has alwyas been a 2 horse race for the most part (Honda & Yamaha). Susuki had some good years w/ Schwantz, but Yamaha & Honda are the big boys in Moto GP.
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Rossi likes Yamaha too much and they like (ie- need) Rossi too much. No way Yamaha fcuks that up. (like HRC/Honda did)

Aside from Casey's first year on the 800s, Ducati has never had great success in GP and I don't think they will anytime soon. Moto GP has alwyas been a 2 horse race for the most part (Honda & Yamaha). Susuki had some good years w/ Schwantz, but Yamaha & Honda are the big boys in Moto GP.
and what makes you think that Ducati doesn't want a piece of that pie, and want it bad enough that they'd offer Rossi some serious cake? All I'm saying is that anything is possible.
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What happens in 2011 when they have Rossi, Lorenzo, and Spies all wanting a factory ride?
Define factory ride?

Is it determined by the equipment, the staff, or the paint scheme on the bike?

Dornas regs do not make the distinction and therein lies the crucible.

If Spies opts for MotoGP he will be on Factory equipment.
It may be a Satellite team but the equipment will be the same that Rossi/Lorenzo get every weekend.

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and what makes you think that Ducati doesn't want a piece of that pie
Yamaha is much bigger than Ducati. Thus they have much bigger pockets.
Ducati would love to have Rossi as a rider, but they don't have the money to pay what he would ask to defect from Yamaha.
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Define factory ride?

Is it determined by the equipment, the staff, or the paint scheme on the bike?

Dornas regs do not make the distinction and therein lies the crucible.

If Spies opts for MotoGP he will be on Factory equipment.
It may be a Satellite team but the equipment will be the same that Rossi/Lorenzo get every weekend.



Yamaha is much bigger than Ducati. Thus they have much bigger pockets.
Ducati would love to have Rossi as a rider, but they don't have the money to pay what he would ask to defect from Yamaha.

Maybe the Italian goverment gives Rossi abreak on his taxes in exchange of a ducati year LOL idiotic wishful thinking here
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Rossi likes Yamaha too much and they like (ie- need) Rossi too much. No way Yamaha fcuks that up. (like HRC/Honda did)

Aside from Casey's first year on the 800s, Ducati has never had great success in GP and I don't think they will anytime soon. Moto GP has alwyas been a 2 horse race for the most part (Honda & Yamaha). Susuki had some good years w/ Schwantz, but Yamaha & Honda are the big boys in Moto GP.
I thought the only reason Rossi went to Yamaha in the first place was to prove that he could win the championship on any bike, and that it was the rider (him), not the bike (Honda)...

so wouldn't him moving to Ducati be allowing him to further flex his e- and show how much of a badass he is?
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I thought the only reason Rossi went to Yamaha in the first place was to prove that he could win the championship on any bike, and that it was the rider (him), not the bike (Honda)...

so wouldn't him moving to Ducati be allowing him to further flex his small- and show how much of a badass he is?
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If himself came down and said that I could be as fast as Rossi, and the only thing I would have to do to achieve that was to cut my in half, I'd ask him to hand me some scissors.
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Maybe the Italian goverment gives Rossi abreak on his taxes in exchange of a ducati year LOL idiotic wishful thinking here
He'd probably go for that scenario.

Ronnie is right, he'll be on factory equip. that says Tech 3 on the fairing. No doubt Ben will want to take House and Woody to the bigs with him, they seem to provide an atmosphere in which he thrives.
GP has always been Ben's goal, the sooner the right opportunity presents itself, the better, and he seems comfy with Yamaha. He's got the signed deal of WSBK '10, GP '11, done deal. Why not go if he accomplishes his goal and wins WSBK as a rookie? Mission accomplished, records broken, history made, why hang around to defend a title? What would you want YOUR resume to read?
Two time WSBK champion, or Rookie WSBK, and MotoGP world champion (rookie too)? In addition to 3 time AMA................... I'm just sayin' I think he should jump if he wins it. If not, that is a good reason to stay, but he should still go if given the opportunity. He can come back to WSBK in his late thirtys.
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If himself came down and said that I could be as fast as Rossi, and the only thing I would have to do to achieve that was to cut my in half, I'd ask him to hand me some scissors.
If I had Ron jeremy's I would say the same thing. Lol. But for you you already don't have alot to work with from what I'm told so I wouldn't do that
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.......plus, I think it will take him a good bit of the season to make the change to the 800. With better brakes, electronics, and all the other differences, I think even the great Ben will struggle a bit. But I'd rather see him beat Rossi when nobody else can, rather than when everyone is. I sadly recognize that day will come. Ben needs to battle Rossi in his prime to lay future questions to rest. He may end up as the GOAT, better to beat the current GOAT in his prime and be the one who sent him out to pasture. No matter what.............GO BEN.
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If I had Ron jeremy's I would say the same thing. Lol. But for you you already don't have alot to work with from what I'm told so I wouldn't do that
WELL, if by saying Rossi's is small, you're implying that the faster a rider is the smaller his wee-wee is...




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I'm going to leave my money with Spies in WSBK next year; but I can see him doing some select races with Tech 3.

I think this does ring the death toll for Toseland. What a disappointment he became. I was really looking forward to him being a factor in MotoGP...
me too...the only brit in MotoGP riht now...

he may not be the best but he was getting better...

although it would be cool to have two Texans in MotoGP...
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