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Old 09-03-2009, 03:26 PM   #121
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yea, they would never have pulled you over because you where breaking the law or anything...

someone has a chip on their shoulder...

Everyone hates the police for doing their jobs...but then begs for their help when they need it...
how is it there job to pull over a truck with rims? for no reason? even when i ask if i was doing something wrong they have no answer. i have never got a ticket or been in an accident in my truck.....i drive like a grandma.....never speed, buckle up,etc, etc
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:30 PM   #122
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you wanted attention, you got it..........lol
im slowly changing my mind lol
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Old 09-03-2009, 03:40 PM   #124
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how is it there job to pull over a truck with rims? for no reason? even when i ask if i was doing something wrong they have no answer. i have never got a ticket or been in an accident in my truck.....i drive like a grandma.....never speed, buckle up,etc, etc

no point in debating with you...it seems like you have made up your mind that the police are only hassling you because of the vehicle you drive.
all i will say...there is always more to the story.

If you are getting pulled over 5 times a month and you believe that the police are just pulling you over because your rims...then you might need to take a better look of why you are being pulled over....






or buy different rims... everone knows only drug dealers have big rims...
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:06 PM   #125
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Makes me want to stand up and cheer for the cops. I think cops should get 1 minutes to beat the living out of anyone who runs.

If you run I have to assume you are a criminal and as such I have ZERO sympathy, empathy or concern.
you sir are a idiot
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:11 PM   #126
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yeah, that rider outta be charged for endangering the cops........i hear ya!
i hope they do that sshhiitt to you
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:11 PM   #127
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:21 PM   #128
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Dang, I had a feeling this thread would be one giant debate.

first off, its easy for anyone to sit here and arm chair quarter back what happened but a totally different experience all together to be the one in the officers seat.

I am not sure why that officer did what he did. .As a officer myself its my opinion is that he used way to much force to stop that particular chase and i am almost positive that he got a chewing for doing so but...i can only give you my opinion based on my work experience with HPD. for example; HPD general orders states that you cannot strike another vehicle (car, boat, motorcycle, any vehicle...) in order to stop or prevent a chase. If you are to do so you will be punished accordingly. HPD cannot do the "Pit Maneuver"

but...wherever this event in the video occurred their department might be trained in such maneuvers...

There is no telling why that officer pulled into a oncoming lane of traffic and stopped. there could be a thousand reasons or excuses. so i am not going to debate if it was wrong or right, lawful or not lawful.

i will just say; i would not be the one to do it.




As far as all that about the suspect being innocent until proven guilty...i really don't think that comes into play at this point. The suspect is being pursued for a reason. whether guilty or not he is wanted. So when a suspect tries to elude the police being innocent does not play into the equation. The officer is lawfully allowed to use any force reasonably necessary to secure the arrest. Now, i know anyone can come up with 1000 scenarios or instances where the officer has used more than reasonable force and to those examples i agree, the officer should be punished for doing so. But, the suspects innocence does not play into the scenario...hence the coined phrase "innocent in a court of law" and not "innocent on a street while running from the police when you have been suspected of a crime"

+1 i dont hate all cop just the one that over use there power. That cop should be fired on the spot and then be sue
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:27 PM   #129
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Way to have an informed and educated opinion....
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:28 PM   #130
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Dang, I had a feeling this thread would be one giant debate.

first off, its easy for anyone to sit here and arm chair quarter back what happened but a totally different experience all together to be the one in the officers seat.

I am not sure why that officer did what he did. .As a officer myself its my opinion is that he used way to much force to stop that particular chase and i am almost positive that he got a chewing for doing so but...i can only give you my opinion based on my work experience with HPD. for example; HPD general orders states that you cannot strike another vehicle (car, boat, motorcycle, any vehicle...) in order to stop or prevent a chase. If you are to do so you will be punished accordingly. HPD cannot do the "Pit Maneuver"

but...wherever this event in the video occurred their department might be trained in such maneuvers...

There is no telling why that officer pulled into a oncoming lane of traffic and stopped. there could be a thousand reasons or excuses. so i am not going to debate if it was wrong or right, lawful or not lawful.

i will just say; i would not be the one to do it.




As far as all that about the suspect being innocent until proven guilty...i really don't think that comes into play at this point. The suspect is being pursued for a reason. whether guilty or not he is wanted. So when a suspect tries to elude the police being innocent does not play into the equation. The officer is lawfully allowed to use any force reasonably necessary to secure the arrest. Now, i know anyone can come up with 1000 scenarios or instances where the officer has used more than reasonable force and to those examples i agree, the officer should be punished for doing so. But, the suspects innocence does not play into the scenario...hence the coined phrase "innocent in a court of law" and not "innocent on a street while running from the police when you have been suspected of a crime"

+1 i dont hate all cop just the one that over use there power. That cop should be fired on the spot and then be sue
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Way to have an informed and educated opinion....
i not going to try to change narrow minded person. It got to happen to him for him to know what it like.
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If it were a car would it have been just force?
is not the samething
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is not the samething
Bet the guy on the bike thought it was, till he was stopped.
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is not the samething
Hmm let's see... speeding vehicle, attempting to evade police.
Obvious potential risk/hazard to third parties. Pit a car/truck, or roadblock it.. but bring out the pampers if it's a bike.

So percisely HOW are they 'supposed' to stop him J? Shoot his bike with a barbed arrow attached to a parachute? Block the road with a mobile foam pit of some sort?
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Hmm let's see... speeding vehicle, attempting to evade police.
Obvious potential risk/hazard to third parties. Pit a car/truck, or roadblock it.. but bring out the pampers if it's a bike.
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Hmm let's see... speeding vehicle, attempting to evade police.
Obvious potential risk/hazard to third parties. Pit a car/truck, or roadblock it.. but bring out the pampers if it's a bike.

So percisely HOW are they 'supposed' to stop him J? Shoot his bike with a barbed arrow attached to a parachute? Block the road with a mobile foam pit of some sort?
everyone know what going to happen when it car vs bike so let not say it the same thing if it was a car
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everyone know what going to happen when it car vs bike so let not say it the same thing if it was a car
Why is that the officers or any innocent bystanders problem? A bike impacting someone, or a vehicle at speed is just as deadly as a car...

Which comes back to the question... how are they supposed to stop the bike then?
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maybe like this......who got hurt?, cop got there guy, every was happy
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