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Old 09-01-2009, 09:46 AM   #1
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Dead Battery in the R1

Left the house this morning at 7am, bike started fine and immediately. Rode to work ( 30 miles ), parked, shutdown, realized I was in the wrong spot, tried to restart - DEAD.

Was the bike running off of the stator the whole trip, or was the stator not charging and the bike was just sucking on the battery unaided.

I'm going to jump it off this afternoon and hope that gets me home.

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check connections and if all else fails just bump start it
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Probably just need to test the battery first, then work from there.
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Checked the battery connections, they're good. Tried turning it over, it'll make about two revolutions and then die completely.

I found the fuse panel, but haven't pulled the left farings off of it yet to check them. ( thats a lot of bolts to risk losing at work in the parking lot ). Are there any fuses in the block that could affect charging?

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stator... same thing happened to me. Charge the battery over night on a trickle charger. Then turn it on and see how many volts its putting out. Or you can leave it running and disconnect the battery. It should stay running if the stator is good.
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stator... same thing happened to me. Charge the battery over night on a trickle charger. Then turn it on and see how many volts its putting out. Or you can leave it running and disconnect the battery. It should stay running if the stator is good.

not a good idea to disconect the battery while bike running, u will spike the stator and could ruin more components!!!
u need to check it with a volt meeter, if u need help/a voltmeeter let me know
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I have a voltmeter at mi casa, but nothing here at work. I'll jump it off and limp it home this afternoon and give it a full rundown there. Was just wondering if there were any quick fixes I could try here.

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nope, just see what happens when u get off work, if it goes to turn over orstart chances are the battery is good and problems in charging system
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i agree but be carefull with the volt meter. Some manuals say that you should only use the meter from the dealer, other wise it may mess up the electronics. I used a good automotive voltmeter and it worked fine.
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Mine died on me about 6 weeks ago. Same thing... to a T. Be willing to bet if you can bump start it then its your battery. $80
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stator... same thing happened to me. Charge the battery over night on a trickle charger. Then turn it on and see how many volts its putting out. Or you can leave it running and disconnect the battery. It should stay running if the stator is good.
This will not work on most newer bikes. Even if everything is working completely satisfactory, disconnecting the battery while running opens the circuit and kills the bike.

Run the bike by autozone and have them test the battery for free.

You do not have to use a factory multimeter. Check the voltage at the battery while the bike is off, then with the bike running, and finally while at greater than 6K rpm's. You should see a much higher voltage while the bike is running.

My first guess is bad battery.

Another thing you may want to look into if it is not the battery, rectifier, or stator, is the starter. The o-rings on the R1 starters fail and let oil into the starter. It let's the bike start easily when it is cold, but it has problems when it is warm and the starter is covered in oil. I had to pull my starter and replace these rings a while back.
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Dumb question, but you didn't accidentally flip your high beams on did you? I did that often on my previous bike. At low rpms, it didn't seem to charge well with them on.
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This will not work on most newer bikes. Even if everything is working completely satisfactory, disconnecting the battery while running opens the circuit and kills the bike.

Run the bike by autozone and have them test the battery for free.

You do not have to use a factory multimeter. Check the voltage at the battery while the bike is off, then with the bike running, and finally while at greater than 6K rpm's. You should see a much higher voltage while the bike is running.

My first guess is bad battery.

Another thing you may want to look into if it is not the battery, rectifier, or stator, is the starter. The o-rings on the R1 starters fail and let oil into the starter. It let's the bike start easily when it is cold, but it has problems when it is warm and the starter is covered in oil. I had to pull my starter and replace these rings a while back.


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hey if you are going to jump it with a car make sure the car is truned off
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Well, here's what happened. Around noon yesterday I took the seat off and disconnected the battery just to make sure that the terminals were clean and such. I hooked it all back up, and still no good - dead as a doornail.

Around 2pm I got some help and I push started it. Fired right up, so I took off down the road and ran around the block a few times. Brought it back, shut it down, and fired it right back up ( with the starter ). Starter turns real fast, lights are bright, just like it were a brand new battery.

I'm clueless, but Praising that I got her home anyway.


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Well, here's what happened. Around noon yesterday I took the seat off and disconnected the battery just to make sure that the terminals were clean and such. I hooked it all back up, and still no good - dead as a doornail.

Around 2pm I got some help and I push started it. Fired right up, so I took off down the road and ran around the block a few times. Brought it back, shut it down, and fired it right back up ( with the starter ). Starter turns real fast, lights are bright, just like it were a brand new battery.

I'm clueless, but Praising that I got her home anyway.


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Process of elimination.

1) Test battery voltage, preferbly load test it at Autozone(but they will almost always tell you its bad). Static voltage needs to be around 12.5v. If battery tests well, go to step 2, if not, buy new battery, then proceed to step 2.

2) With fully charged battery installed, measure voltage across the terminals at idle, it won't be much but that is normal. Maybe 12.8-13.0v. Then rev the engine to around 4k rpms and measure again, the voltage should be up around 14.2v or so....the book will tell you 13.5-15.0 is acceptable. If you are not in that range, then we have to diagnose the charging system one piece at a time.

Do the voltage tests and report back.
Then we'll go from there.



PS. I am 90% sure your battery has just the bed, it probably has 1 bad cell. With a dead cell, they can still show decent voltage(12.0-12.5v) but as soon as you put them under a load like trying to start the engine, the voltage will drop to the 10s. The fact that your bike was able to be push started and then road fine until you shut it off shows that your charging system is working and your battery is at least completing the circuit of power to everything, its just not holding the charge well.
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Chances of that it could have been a deid cell in the battery... and that's what kept it from not starting but get it taken a look at.
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had same exact problem with mine, kept charging it and it would charge real fast and not last a day, ended up just needing a new battery. And that battery isn't cheap! think it was about 160 bucks!
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I had a simular issue. My bike died then it would not start. I had to get a jump. Then I went to asi and watched the show. Then after a few hours my bike started right up. I got a new battery for $140 and my R1 is puring like a kitty again.
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