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Old 08-31-2009, 11:57 AM   #1
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:06 PM   #2
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thy are but buck's been pretty busy. I believe they have done a few here recently
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How do you get to participate in one?
My understanding is that, at this point, someone thats already "in" has to vouch that you're fast enough. I don't think you're fast enough.

He used to have noob days, but I don't think he has one planned this year.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:02 PM   #4
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My understanding is that, at this point, someone thats already "in" has to vouch that you're fast enough. I don't think you're fast enough.

He used to have noob days, but I don't think he has one planned this year.
I can't speak for Buck, but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with "how fast you are". He just doesn't want a crowded track, which has always been the case with LMS.....thank ; and he doesn't want noob riders throwing their bike all over the place.

I'm willing to bet that Captain M has enough T/D's under her belt to know how to hold her line.

Captain M, it is invite only however........so you'll have to find someone who can sponsor you.

I'm thinking about signing up for next months LMS T/D, let me know if can't find anyone else........and we'll try to work something out.

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I can't speak for Buck, but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with "how fast you are". He just doesn't want a crowded track, which has always been the case with LMS.....thank ; and he doesn't want noob riders throwing their bike all over the place.

I'm willing to bet that Captain M has enough T/D's under her belt to know how to hold her line.

Captain M, it is invite only however........so you'll have to find someone who can sponsor you.

I'm thinking about signing up for next months LMS T/D, let me know if can't find anyone else........and we'll try to work something out.

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Meaning.......LMS has always been a less crowded group, not the other way around.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:13 PM   #6
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How do you get to participate in one?
basically like the other guys said is have someone vouch for you. That is the reason they are so exclusive. It's more for a trackday but 30 minute sessions and not as crowded. I have yet to do one, but hopefully Buck gives me an invite soon! In my opinion if its worth anything, all of the guys I know personally who have done Buck's days are pretty quick. I am anxious to see what it is all about. Of course a 2 broken bones one on each side of your body will make you anxious to do ne thing!
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they just did one this past Saturday. Next one is 9/26. You can email or pm him for more info.
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I can't speak for Buck, but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with "how fast you are". He just doesn't want a crowded track, which has always been the case with LMS.....thank ; and he doesn't want noob riders throwing their bike all over the place.
Buck has specified minimum lap times before. So yea....there's a pace factor. The number just escapes me at the moment. I want to say its 1:55s?
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They've had days where Bucks limited the attendence to only fast guys, then there are the regular days for people with enough experience to hold their line and not get spooked when passed very fast and very close.
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Good guys for sure. Hella seat time.

Seen people considerably slower than :55's. That myth, is what kept me away longer than I should've, when I first started.
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Good guys for sure. Hella seat time.

Seen people considerably slower than :55's. That myth, is what kept me away longer than I should've, when I first started.
I guess it's to keep the Novices and rookie Intermediates at bay...seeing as they run one group. One thing to have a seasoned intermediate rider...something else to having someone who doesn't understand "hold your line"...Bucks days are typically a very quick pace overall. Speaking of, I saw the email for 9/26 in my inbox this morning...weather is getting nicer. woohoo!
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Good guys for sure. Hella seat time.

Seen people considerably slower than :55's. That myth, is what kept me away longer than I should've, when I first started.
SO if I do 58's, I should be OK????


Also, I'd like to know how much a TD with LMS costs
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Buck days aka LMS trackdays is alot of fun and you have to ask for help to get it. Everything is controlled but he give you the option of running 30 mins, meaning if you feel tired and start making stupid mistakes you would be smart enough to say enough is enough and remove yourself from the track. Let me tell you this everything is on the GOOD FAITH attendance, meaning if he holds a spot for you then you better show up. None of this im skipping out at the last min and getting away with it, he has a black list and a good memory. Any other questions you should pm,call or email him. But you wont be sorry about doing his track school while having a good time too.
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Buck days aka LMS trackdays is alot of fun and you have to ask for help to get it.
I don't necessarily agree with this.

IMO, everyone that rides with LMS is very willing to lend a helping hand. Without being insulting or intrusive. That reason is why I believe it's the best trackday one can do at MSR-H.

Yes, it's invite only.

Yes, you can get someone to "vouch" for you.

No, there's noone with a timer booting people off for running under 55s.

Yes, if you miss a day, you're screwed.
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I don't necessarily agree with this.

IMO, everyone that rides with LMS is very willing to lend a helping hand. Without being insulting or intrusive. That reason is why I believe it's the best trackday one can do at MSR-H.

Yes, it's invite only.

Yes, you can get someone to "vouch" for you.

No, there's noone with a timer booting people off for running under 55s.

Yes, if you miss a day, you're screwed.
that should be everything. i don't know how he's running it this year, but if its like how it used to be, as long as you're not easily spooked and can hold a decent line, you should be okay. most of the riders there are either racers or seasoned trackday riders and they know how to get around slower riders SAFELY. you just need to be consistent and predictable. i feel safer riding at a lms trackday than at any other org. i've always been one of the slower riders, but i've never had a problem there. kickass time with some kickass people.
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SO if I do 58's, I should be OK????


Also, I'd like to know how much a TD with LMS costs
LMS days have traditionally been $190.
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that should be everything. i don't know how he's running it this year, but if its like how it used to be, as long as you're not easily spooked and can hold a decent line, you should be okay. most of the riders there are either racers or seasoned trackday riders and they know how to get around slower riders SAFELY. you just need to be consistent and predictable. i feel safer riding at a lms trackday than at any other org. i've always been one of the slower riders, but i've never had a problem there. kickass time with some kickass people.
I agree with this a million percent. I've been passed at every conceivable section of that track by some of the regular LMS guys. Never, not once, did I feel violated.

Buck usually starts every riders meeting with "RESPECT" ... respect yourself, the track, and the other riders.
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