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Old 08-29-2009, 12:02 AM   #1
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Ohlins Stabilizer vs. Scotts Damper?

Ok I have the scotts damper on my Sv. And have recently really started tweaking with it but overall the sv is pretty smooth and doesnt get bad head shake because its alot of roll on bottom end not much in the middle or top... Well this last weekend I picked up a 2004 gsxr 600 and found a good deal on an ohlins stabilyzer. what major differences are they and what different functions do they serve. I do like the idea of on the fly adjustments for the scotts but for literally 1/3 of the price do I go with the ohlins. Its been awhile since I have rode an inline 600 but my r1 gets head shake real bad during acceleration not to much margin for error. And I know an inline is like a light switch and is far less forgiving than my SV is...thanks in advance

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Is it the Ohlins rotary or linear damper? Either one it doesn't matter, IMHO the Ohlins linear is a better unit, I prefer the linear dampers over the rotary dampers.

Now, on an SV a damper is wholly un-necessary. The only reason I'd even put one on one is if I was going to race.

Ohlins rotary or linear, doesn't matter, both are very good if not "the best" on the market.
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ohlins linear would be on the gsxr and the scotts rotary came on the sv,the guy I bought it from it was his back up cmra bike. I am justifying spending 150 on a linear or 300 on a scotts.. Im also incorporating the probability of a highside it seems like that ohlins linear would be hidden enough that it could be pretty bulletproof.. but I could be wrong
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Nothing is really protected from a crash.

IMHO, either one is just fine, I just prefer the linear dampers.
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probably going to scoop the ohlins next week.. I can always sell it if its not doing the trick.. but then again I might just stick to my sv its fun beating inlines they have no excuse other than running bad lines and not being smooth haha
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probably going to scoop the ohlins next week.. I can always sell it if its not doing the trick.. but then again I might just stick to my sv its fun beating inlines they have no excuse other than running bad lines and not being smooth haha
I'm not sure what "not doing the trick" means, but if it leaks or something like that, it's extremely easy to rebuild (the only really "specialized" tool you'll need is snap ring pliers). Now if it's got a bent rod or something, even then you could get a new one from Ohlins cheap.
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I'm not sure what "not doing the trick" means, but if it leaks or something like that, it's extremely easy to rebuild (the only really "specialized" tool you'll need is snap ring pliers). Now if it's got a bent rod or something, even then you could get a new one from Ohlins cheap.
the doing the trick would be if I didnt like the on the fly capabilities but for most tracks I have been too I set up my scotts and have never touched it so ill probably go with the ohlins by the way Tom you have helped me out alot when it comes to the sv and what not when am I going to get to meet you at the track.
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I have used Ohlins linear dampers for prolly 14 years with no problems, never even had to rebuild one of them, seems everyone likes the rotary scotts,gpr, but I love the Ohlins linear
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In our experience with the Ohlins linear rod style dampers, unless it has the racing upgrade kit, they go away after awhile.
Bill Drake had numerous issues on 2 of his bikes a few years back, as well as a few other racers I know.
Don't get me wrong, I love Ohlins stuff, but their rod style damper leaves a bit to be desired in a road race setting unless upgraded, which is a pricey bit for an already pricey part.

IMO, the best damper out there currently is the Scotts.
Minimal warranty issues (read ONE in over 10 years in dealing with them) and they crash very well.

GPR's seem to have a nasty habit of leaking, I've lost count of how many I've sent back for warranty. To GPR's credit, they always honor the warranty, but the customer has to pay shipping to GPR and wait up to 6 weeks to get the damper back. Don't even get me started about Hyperpro.....
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thanks patrick I was waiting for you to chime in.
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I have a Scotts on both my sv's and an ohlins on my 750 with no problems out of the three. I've had all of em for atleast 3 years
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the doing the trick would be if I didnt like the on the fly capabilities but for most tracks I have been too I set up my scotts and have never touched it so ill probably go with the ohlins by the way Tom you have helped me out alot when it comes to the sv and what not when am I going to get to meet you at the track.
No problem man, happy to help out if I can.

I've never had any issues with Ohlins, Hyper-Pro (my personal fav), or Scotts (well, not really any problems, other than having to rebuild it a couple of times).

I don't know if my Ohlins was the "race" version as Patrick mentioned, but if you are looking at a "cheap" Ohlins damper, I'd buy one that someone took off their ZX10 or something and spend the $100 for the upgrade from Ohlins.

A lot of folks will try to pass off their Ohlins unit that comes stock off the new Kawis as a "race" damper, but it's not. It's a real Ohlins, but it's really weak and not like what you'll be looking for performance-wise. However, like I mentioned, you can send it off to Ohlins for $100 and they'll put new internals in it so it functions the way you need it to.

My Ohlins performed flawlessly for a couple of years- no leaks or issues.

After 3 seasons of racing with a Scotts, we had to rebuild it twice, but that's really no big deal either.

I wouldn't worry about adjustments "on the fly", it's something I usually only mess with once per day during a whole track day, if I mess with it at all.

Currently, I use the stock Suzuki damper, not had one problem so far this season
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I've used both the Scotts ('04 ZX-10) and Ohlins (ZX-10, R1, 999) with no issues at all. Set'em and forget'em, and the Ohlins do crash well
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alright im going to give the ohlins a try. save me 200 and use that for some rearsets
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My scotts has a little dial for hard to soft settting and when I try to turn it soft it just keeps going and going like its going to come off and I really cant tel any difference like the is broke but I feel it tunring. I know on my GPR V4 dampner I can tell a HUGE difference from no dampner all the way to forcing handles to turn. SO what the hells with me dampner am i doing something wrong
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Its broken. Send it to a service center.
Ohlins linear is far better in my experience.
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