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Old 12-30-2009, 12:43 PM   #361
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:49 PM   #362
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Well that suck Cali.. I know you were ready to hit the road on it. You gonna get a quote for the rebuild thru Motorcycles Unlimited?
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:08 PM   #363
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Pyro... rethink the list. By the time 'I' pay for the parts alone, not considering my own time instead of paying for labor it will cost more then a used motor.

I will still take it apart but there is a high chance I wont be able to find the parts I need used in good enough condition without buying new/involving a body shop.

Its a deal but you really never know what you're getting into buying a used bike. So the project is likely to be put on the back burner yet again for a while. But we'll see what happens in the future.
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:12 PM   #364
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that sucks Cali. Hopefully once you break it open it won't be as bad as it sounds. Good luck and hopefully it's nothing major and budget killing.
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:20 PM   #365
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I replaced the motor in my 95' 900rr after I spun a bearing on my orignal motor. I belive I paid around $500 dollars for it (With shipping) on ebay.
It was well worth it for me to just buy a used motor.


Here is one, but it is kinda pricy ($934.99 + 250 shipping)

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What does "spun a bearing" mean?
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Old 01-01-2010, 02:44 PM   #368
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There are different ways bearings can wear out from either too much impact or too high of a speed. Even lack of lubrication/overheating will effect it.

I had excessive movement in my rod so somewhere along the line this caused the bearing to be beat up; then when the one side cracked the bearing began to spin around the crank tearing up the rod and the crank's mating surfaces.

Over revving for what an engine is designed to do will cause excessive wear on the lower rod bearing because the piston/rod are basically moving faster then the engine can keep up and although it is firing etc, the force happens after the piston passes the flash point and there is excessive load on the lower bearing as the piston comes around faster then it should.

Stalling, predetonation, excessive loading of the engine or anything that doesn't allow smooth combustion will slap the top of the piston. The engine will do whatever load you put behind it, but putting excessive load on the crank from the transmission/tire etc will wear the upper bearing.

My upper was damaged/broken in two and when I pulled the cap off both were between the rod and crank.
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The M3's had two, count them 2 service actions because the over revving 6 cylinder w a 11k redline was damaging the rod bearings.

I had to replace 3 engines for spun bearings. I've probably done 2 dozen rod bearing recalls myself, some twice when the second came out. lol.

But again, that's why I work for BMW; job security.
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Thanks for the explaination
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:23 PM   #371
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I just researched a connecting rod/bearings online; would cost around 210 before shipping. A used engine off ebay w 10k plus miles on it costs from 1100-1500.

Mind you I still need to check the measurements and see what all is stretched/damaged.


I do have a complete extra rolling chassis w everything but plastics/harness/controls but I may consider buying an additional bike. Came across a few online within 10miles from my area for under $2k....


And very, very strong wishful thinking but if somehow its just the bearing and crank that needs machining I plan on fixin' her up quickly.
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Doesn't look too bad; one new rod, all crank and rod bearings, have the crank repaired, new oil pump and relief and you should be set to go.
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Ok. I'll bring it up to you guys Saturday likely so you can see it in person and give me a good accessment. Thank you!!!!
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Matt,you have bore scope to look cyl wall that has bend rod....or you going to pull head off !!! not a good thing at all when process near finish line
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I do have a bore scope; but I can also see the cylinder walls underneath the piston.

The head would have to come off regardless.
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The M3's had two, count them 2 service actions because the over revving 6 cylinder w a 11k redline was damaging the rod bearings.

I had to replace 3 engines for spun bearings. I've probably done 2 dozen rod bearing recalls myself, some twice when the second came out. lol.

But again, that's why I work for BMW; job security.
Ah, I missed that service action in it's prime, I've only done 3 or 4 of them.

Another way to spin a bearing is to use Rotella instead of the oil you're supposed to use


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lol^^^^. i remember that thread chase.
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I just remembered Joelle is selling his 900rr project. Its a 99.......


some of the Northsiders may have remember meeting him before. He's one of Rodeo's friends.
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