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Old 03-31-2006, 02:07 PM   #1
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Girl Critical After Crashing Motorcycle She Just Got

POSTED: 7:12 am EST March 27, 2006
UPDATED: 11:48 am EST March 27, 2006

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A 19-year-old woman is in critical condition after she crashed her motorcycle on her bike's first ride. She was not wearing a helmet when the crash happened along Vincent Road in east Orange County on Sunday afternoon.

Shyanne Cummings was taken away in a helicopter. Just minutes before she was riding her new motorcycle down Vincent Road at, witnesses said, speeds up to 100 miles an hour. Then Shyanne lost control

"I was just freaking out. It was just really something to see," said eyewitness Trevor Duncan, who saw the crash from his porch. "I saw the motorcycle tumble and land in the ditch. I saw the young lady flip two, three times in the air and land in the bushes."

What made things worse was she wasn't wearing a helmet and, troopers said, the teen didn't even have a license to drive a motorcycle.

"She's 19 and a very inexperienced driver, let alone a motorcycle," said Trooper Kris Neutzling, Florida Highway Patrol.

It was a motorcycle, troopers said, Shyanne got just 20 minutes before the crash.

Barney Rentar teaches motorcycle safety. He said many bikers can avoid accidents by taking a safety course.

"It greatly improves their safety margin," he said.

Troopers said it was obvious Shyanne didn't take any education courses. Witnesses said it was obvious the teen was just heading for a fall.

"The throttle was open. They were just really pushing it," Duncan said.

A bill before the Florida House of Representatives could have prevented the accident. The proposed legislation would require safety training and proof of endorsement before a motorcycle can be purchased or registered

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Thats just a damm shame.. The seller of the bike was an idiot for letting her ride off without gear and without any experience....that last sentence is gonna be law someday...watch and see...
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was the seller an idiot or the buyer? i blame the buyer more then the seller.
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I agree on the M endorsement, but I don't agree with mandatory education. I think it should be like drivers licenses where you can get a M license at X age IF you take the course, but otherwise you have to wait till Y age, say 18 and 21.
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if she was driving without a license do you think she would have actually paid for the the msf. to go along with the last sentence they cannot take away your right to purchase something. it is not a privlage like your drivers license.
I dont really see where msf could help you at over 100mph but i am not sure never been through it
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if she was driving without a license do you think she would have actually paid for the the msf. to go along with the last sentence they cannot take away your right to purchase something. it is not a privlage like your drivers license.
I dont really see where msf could help you at over 100mph but i am not sure never been through it
Fundementals are used at all speeds. Hopefully you have practiced a little so your reaction times are better. :confused1
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To get on the base you have to have PROOF of the MSF...that means you have to take it or you dont get to get on base....also you at all times have to wear hear and helmet...
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I was amazed at being able to purchase, and ride out w/o no one even asking whether I had a license or not or even if I knew jack about bikes. I did have insurance which I purchased via a phone call from the dealers before I hopped on.
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Thats just a damm shame.. The seller of the bike was an idiot for letting her ride off without gear and without any experience....that last sentence is gonna be law someday...watch and see...
not the sellers fault to police your actions.
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To get on the base you have to have PROOF of the MSF...that means you have to take it or you dont get to get on base....also you at all times have to wear hear and helmet...
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Fundementals are used at all speeds. Hopefully you have practiced a little so your reaction times are better. :confused1
sorry let me rephrase that

i dont see where it can help you if you push the bike or tires past their limit. yes i have the fundamentals im ok. i didnt mean that they cant help you but if you dont know the machines limit then your screwed.
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i dont see where it can help you if you push the bike or tires past their limit. yes i have the fundamentals im ok. i didnt mean that they cant help you but if you dont know the machines limit then your screwed.
i dont think its the bikes limits you have to worry about, its more of the riders limits
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i dont see where it can help you if you push the bike or tires past their limit. yes i have the fundamentals im ok. i didnt mean that they cant help you but if you dont know the machines limit then your screwed.
chances are your riding over YOUR limits vs the bikes limits. chances are if you crash, it' your fault vs the bikes.

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You don't have to have an operators lic. to race.

As far as the sale, tt's not the sellers fault. We see this all the time, we've even had people outright lie about their riding abilities.

We try to police it as well as we can, recommend the MSF course, offer to trailer the bike home for them. In the end it's the buyers responsibilty.

There have been cases where I will outright refuse to sell the bike, i.e. the 18 year old kid wanting to buy the Busa for his first bike. Even got in an arguement with his dad on why I wouldn't sell it to him.
In the end he bought one from Stubbs.

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Thats just a damm shame.. The seller of the bike was an idiot for letting her ride off without gear and without any experience....that last sentence is gonna be law someday...watch and see...


Highly doubt it. Don't know about Florida law, but in TX you don't need a DL to purchase/register a vehicle. You can even "get around" the requirement of a SS number to register a vehicle (VTR 171). Sounds like she might have purchased from an individual though vs a dealer. Although it was bad judgement on the seller's part for selling the bike (provided he KNEW she didn't have any experience), it was ultimately her foolish decision to haul without any gear or necessary training/experience. Unfortunately she learned the hard way, and will not get a chance to correct her mistake.
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There have been cases where I will outright refuse to sell the bike, i.e. the 18 year old kid wanting to buy the Busa for his first bike. Even got in an arguement with his dad on why I wouldn't sell it to him.
In the end he bought one from Stubbs.

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Kudos to you for that.

I've been to dealerships just looking at liter bikes and Busas and never once was asked about my riding experience.
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