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Old 08-09-2009, 08:43 PM   #21
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I think I've met you before, were you yesterday at TWS (Texas World Speedway)?
Yeah, but you usually talk with bigzona... we've never really chatted.

What are you trying to accomplish? Track records? Consistency?

Yes, I was @ TWS (Texas World Speedway). First time out there.
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Old 08-09-2009, 08:47 PM   #22
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But would you say that without some pretty decent experience (read "a lot), the money could be best spent somewhere else? (ie more tracktime)
I do agree with this. For people like myself, this would not be money well spent. With only a handful of trackdays under my belt, I still have plenty of info to get from Tony, Tim, and whomever else is on the track that day.......then it would be worth it for me to hit up Ty or Larry (if his ol' lady ever lets him out of the house!!!) and take their classes.
From reading over his website, I believe this class to be more centered around those who are trying to get race license all the way up to those who are getting podium in novice CMRA races..........just my .02
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Polen turns 50 next year, no way he's going to run record pace.
I'm sure he has lots to teach.
I wonder why is he teaching on a cmra race weekend? He afraid a local expert will take his class and Polen won't be able to kept up.
Polen lives in california, born in Detroit. So he's not local.
Best instruction is private one on one. One on one with Ty would be far better then a class of 6 with Polen.
Doubt they planned it to land on a race weekend. His schedule seems kinda full. I am sure that is just when he was able to schedule track time out here.......maybe you are right though Whoopie! Who knows. You're an old fart too.........you should call him out sometime!!!! I got $5 on Whoopie!!!! Sure Sunny will let you borrow the R1
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Okay! I challenge mr polen to race me at Oakhill in the F40 race.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:00 PM   #25
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Polen turns 50 next year, no way he's going to run record pace.
I'm sure he has lots to teach.
I wonder why is he teaching on a cmra race weekend? He afraid a local expert will take his class and Polen won't be able to kept up.
Polen lives in california, born in Detroit. So he's not local.
Best instruction is private one on one. One on one with Ty would be far better then a class of 6 with Polen.
Can't argue too much man, like I mentioned I do agree with you. But he does still race AMA events, it's not like he's out of top tier riding and he's ridden at a level very very few others have.

All I'm saying is that there is value there, and I bet it wouldn't take much for him to get in to a mid-40 pace out there. Like Schwantz and Pridmore, the guys who have that have that experience and are able to teach that are going to give you your money's worth.

To answer another way, if it were me spending the money, I'd spend it on more seat time and local instruction from folks that I respect on the track like Jeff Grant, Wade prudtz, Steve McNamara, Andy Galindo, Gabe McClendon, Mark Niemi, etc, etc, etc. A couple of those guys run near record pace at CMRA tracks (and others), some of those guys don't; all of them are awesome instructors and have a unique way of instruction, they're equally valuable to me.

Any of that make sense? If so, explain it to me!
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I agree Tommy. Lstd does have some superfast instructors that race the cmra circuit.
I had a great time hanging out at the track with y'all yesterday too. Even without riding.
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Polen turns 50 next year, no way he's going to run record pace.
I'm sure he has lots to teach.
I wonder why is he teaching on a cmra race weekend? He afraid a local expert will take his class and Polen won't be able to kept up.
Polen lives in california, born in Detroit. So he's not local.
Best instruction is private one on one. One on one with Ty would be far better then a class of 6 with Polen.
I'm sure he has lots to teach.

I agree.



One on one with Ty would be far better then a class of 6 with Polen.

Possibly.



You don't have to be faster to teach. Otherwise, Keith Code could not have taught all the world champions that he did. Wayne Rainey went back to Keith after Wayne won his first world championship!!


Doug Polen in no particular order:

1. Many time CMRA/WERA champ
2. Retired for 3 years in 1983-not making any money racing
3. Came out of retirement after 3 years to win 41 of 48 races, mostly at tracks he was unfamiliar with. Won $260,000. It's amazing what contingincy money will do.
4. Very familiar with OH and TWS (Texas World Speedway).
5. World superbike champ 2 times in 2 tries. Who else in modern history has done this?
6. AMA superbike champ.
7. Winner of the Suzuka 8 hour race.
8. World endurance champ
9. 4th in AMA superbike series as a PRIVATEER. Unmatched in recent history.
10. Self confident to the point of being obnoxious-describes many racers


Ty Howard:

1. Excellent club racer-never won $260,000 even with the higher purses.
2. OK racer on the national level.
3. Has my utmost respect.


Who would be the best teacher? I don't know. And unless you have taken both their classes then you don't know either. I learned much more from my organic chemistry tutor (he was in the class with me) than I did from our highly acclaimed professor. Someone take both classes (money well spent in both cases, I'll bet) and report back. I'll pitch in 20 bucks.

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Well said humanrace911.

And Whoop, I like your teaching style too, I wouldn't turn down instruction from you at our tracks

We're very fortunate with instructors who have dynamic instruction style, lots out there to be learned and lots to be taught!
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Still thinking hard about this... I'll let you know what I'll do
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Okay! I challenge mr polen to race me at Oakhill in the F40 race.
You would NOT like it! That guy was raised on OHR and TWS (Texas World Speedway). In my 30 years of watching this sport I have NEVER seen anyone dominate the local tracks like Polen did.
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Have you actually called and seen how this "1 on 1" day is going to be? My suggestion would be to call and ask some questions...
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Have you actually called and seen how this "1 on 1" day is going to be? My suggestion would be to call and ask some questions...
I've talked with Moira and she explained the way the day will go. Seems like a great experience, unfortunately I am not 100% comfy to spend that kind of doe right now. Only reason stopping me from actually taking the class.
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I've talked with Moira and she explained the way the day will go. Seems like a great experience, unfortunately I am not 100% comfy to spend that kind of doe right now. Only reason stopping me from actually taking the class.
then you know it's not actually a one on one day. Where with TY the track is open to you and him with all his attention on you. Not the other 18 or so students.
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then you know it's not actually a one on one day. Where with TY the track is open to you and him with all his attention on you. Not the other 18 or so students.
Only if you spend a bunch of dough on a one-on-one day with Ty at ECR. Otherwise you share him with how many other guys take his level 3 class. Maybe he'll get to you, maybe he won't.
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Only if you spend a bunch of dough on a one-on-one day with Ty at ECR. Otherwise you share him with how many other guys take his level 3 class. Maybe he'll get to you, maybe he won't.
I was speaking about a personal trackday not the race school. Which amounts to the same thing as the Doug Polen "1 on 1" day, which is anything but one on one. Basically you are paying the same price for an equivilent to Ty's Race School. maybe even the advanced class that LSTD offers. I have not personally taken that one yet so I can not speak on it.

Tom,
Can you provide some info on that?
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I was speaking about a personal trackday not the race school. Which amounts to the same thing as the Doug Polen "1 on 1" day, which is anything but one on one. Basically you are paying the same price for an equivilent to Ty's Race School. maybe even the advanced class that LSTD offers. I have not personally taken that one yet so I can not speak on it.

Tom,
Can you provide some info on that?
Oh, I thought you were talking about the Ride Smart thing with Ty.

Yeah, we do a 1:1 for intermediate/ advanced riders. We tailor it to the needs of the student and his instructor is his for the entire day with video. We use our resident fast guys who bring the student up to their goals, whether that be just to move up to the "A" group, be a more educated "B" group rider, get in to racing in the CMRA, or if they're a resident racer and just want to get faster. We do this for a nominal fee and cap the number of riders who can sign up for it so that we don't over-tax our instructors.

I don't want to turn this in to a commercial, but I'm glad you asked about it for me to describe it a bit none-the-less.

I agree with you that the Doug Polen thing probably amounts to the same thing as a day with Ty at Ride Smart.

Ronnie has had our folks work with more than one student every once in a while in the novice class and I know how challenging it is for most folks to work with one or two students- we try to never go past 2:1 but some of our folks can handle and do well with 3 students. Once you get in to teaching advanced skills to folks with seat time under their belts already, it takes a lot more time to actually get them what they're there for. I can't imagine that folks will get much time with DP even with a fancy communicator... more power to 'em though if they can pull that off.

Personally, if I'm paying for advanced instruction, I'd rather have that 1:1 attention because I'm kinda needy in that way...
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Dang Whoopie, there are quite a few racers over 50 that are still way faster than you think. Being 50 ain't gonna slow them down as much as you want it too. Why the anger?
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You would NOT like it! That guy was raised on OHR and TWS (Texas World Speedway). In my 30 years of watching this sport I have NEVER seen anyone dominate the local tracks like Polen did.
The next best thing to racing and winning is racing and losing.
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The next best thing to racing and winning is racing and losing.
Werd. Closely followed by racing and blowing an engine, and capped off with racing and crashing

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