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Old 07-29-2009, 01:52 PM   #1
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Question Which Is A Better Tard For Trackdays?

For Brena and I.
Something like a DRZ? Or a 450R? 250R? Pro's? Cons?


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for the both of you to share, i'd say a 250, if its for her, a 450. if just for you, stay at home and keep out of everyones way LOL
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:38 PM   #4
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for the both of you to share, i'd say a 250, if its for her, a 450. if just for you, stay at home and keep out of everyones way LOL

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Old 07-29-2009, 02:42 PM   #5
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Ive been thinking about a cr250 2 smoker.

It would be the cheapest, and maintness wise cheapest to.
If it blew up, 500 bucks and you can build a nice new motor for it.
2 stroke are great for mini tards, but not so great for big tards. If you aren't riding in the proper gear, you'll blast yourself to teh moon when the powerband hits, or you'll bog down trying to get there.

4 strokes are where it's at
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I would get a DRZ400SM if it is going to be for you and Brena. If both of you are going to be doing the dirt out at GSS maybe the 450. But what do I know, I have a 450 that has less than 2 hours on it that blew up.
I like riding the 250's because they are lighter, but the weight of the 450 is something you can get used to fast.
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Good post John.

We will be doing long tracks, short tracks, supermoto (if it ever gets built) and some forest trail rides. Maybe even a MX track or two. Hope that helps a bit more.
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i'd say a 450 especially if it's gonna be taken on the pavement also. you don't have to ring the out of it as much as a 250 to get around the track. if it's for dirt, a 250 is plenty, 450 is like starting out on a 1000cc on the pavement.
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Good post John.

We will be doing long tracks, short tracks, supermoto (if it ever gets built) and some forest trail rides. Maybe even a MX track or two. Hope that helps a bit more.
Maybe the 450 and keep the dirt setup so you can switch out.
If you run it as a motard I would gear the out of it so you can run the straights with out getting close to peging it out.
Tim, you can ride my bike when I get a new one. I am going to sell the street bike so I can have a motard.
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Maybe the 450 and keep the dirt setup so you can switch out.
If you run it as a motard I would gear the out of it so you can run the straights with out getting close to peging it out.
Tim, you can ride my bike when I get a new one. I am going to sell the street bike so I can have a motard.
I can offer up a ride on the wr250x as well, but knowing what I know now, I would've bought a 450 to motard out.
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the drz feels so heavy. i would go with a mx bike that was setup for sm.

the 426-tard was so much more powerful and weighed far less than my drz-sm.

it lacked e-start which is not a problem for the track, but I found to be a just a bit of a problem on the street. the drz lacks kick start, which i find to be a problem for a trail bike.

the weight made it feel so much more flickable, and i felt i could muscle it.

my 426 took about an hour to swap from tard to trails as well.

but don't act like you are going to share this bike with brena.
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I can offer up a ride on the wr250x as well, but knowing what I know now, I would've bought a 450 to motard out.
But you are still pretty new to riding and do a lot of commuting. i think your needs are going to be alot different. You can ride my bike when I get it up and running or when I get a new one.
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I would get a DRZ400SM if it is going to be for you and Brena. If both of you are going to be doing the dirt out at GSS maybe the 450. But what do I know, I have a 450 that has less than 2 hours on it that blew up.
I like riding the 250's because they are lighter, but the weight of the 450 is something you can get used to fast.
I agree..., But you gotta understand it is near impossible to get an all-arounder bike.


If you want a "do everything well or ok but not do any one thing GREAT bike" DRZ is the way to go... (don't take this as hating on DRZ cause i own one and love it for what it is... Engine is bulletproof)

If you want a mx racer... CRF450 and maintenece after every other ride.

If you want a trail bike get some thing light like a yamaha ttr 225.

I went with the DRZ
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Thanks guys. I'll take you up on the offers. I know it's hard to get an all arounder, but this bike will see 95% of it's use on a road course. I know it's a very bad idea to put me on dirt again. I will kill myself for sure! lol
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I just picked up a WR450 for trackdays and street terrorizing. What little I have rode it so far indicates it will be a hoot, and will probably cost me some whoolie tickets

FYI, the WR450 has a 5 speed tranny which is invaluable on the street/track
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I just picked up a WR450 for trackdays and street terrorizing. What little I have rode it so far indicates it will be a hoot, and will probably cost me some whoolie tickets

FYI, the WR450 has a 5 speed tranny which is invaluable on the street/track
what does the 450R's have?
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what does the 450R's have?
YZFs are 4-speeds. CRFs are 5-speeds.

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ya, i am always trying to switch into 6th on the drz...i can never get it to engage.

if you want to ride around on one, i have the drz up at the office today.

front fork is locked into it's stiffest setting, but you will get the feel of the motor.
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YZFs are 4-speeds. CRFs are 5-speeds.

FWIW, KTMs have 6-speeds.
Oh, definitely want at least a 5 speed.

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