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Old 07-29-2009, 02:55 PM   #21
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No mention of the track record holder? Ty Howard?

go to www.youtube.com/ridesmart1

look for MSRH lines with Ty Howard. If you want to know how THE fastest guy gets around that track.
Ty is not on MH.
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too many factors with such a general question thomas.

you gotta factor in bike type, gearing, power, rider skill, rider's lack or surplus of nuts, brakes, tires......

you're on the right line, you just gotta take baby steps forward. (i'm not just saying that, i watched you go through there).

find ways to get on the brakes later, get on the gas earlier while still holding your line. thats where suspension will come into play as well.
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Since you're on an SV650 like me and about my speed try this.

Accelerate out of Diamonds Edge to 5th gear and get to the right side of the track, just before the first cone roll off the throttle and downshift to fourth.

Turn in at the last cone, gradually roll on the throttle and let yourself drift into the middle of the track and try to hit a black spot in the middle of the track that's at the end of the Carousel. If you hit it you'll be dead in line for the entrance to Joe Bone. Dr. Gonzo showed me the mark and it works great but is hard to hit.

The SV has so much engine braking that the only places you need to brake are at the end of the pit straight and at the entrance to Diamond's Edge. All the rest is throttle control.

At the start of the day, try it at moderate speed and as the day wears on and you gain confidence increase your speed and move the downshift to after the first cone.
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too many factors with such a general question thomas.

you gotta factor in bike type, gearing, power, rider skill, rider's lack or surplus of nuts, brakes, tires......

you're on the right line, you just gotta take baby steps forward. (i'm not just saying that, i watched you go through there).

find ways to get on the brakes later, get on the gas earlier while still holding your line. thats where suspension will come into play as well.

I'm planning on getting out there on the 22nd next month, so I think I'll be spending most of the day experimenting with my brake markers heading into the turn. I usually find my self in 5th by the time I hit the first set of cones and then take two quick downshifts into 3rd and tip in so as to dive under the black stripe that hugs the inside of the turn ... but I think I'm turning in to early.

If you're there, I'll be sure to hit you up for more info
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Since you're on an SV650 like me and about my speed try this.

Accelerate out of Diamonds Edge to 5th gear and get to the right side of the track, just before the first cone roll off the throttle and downshift to fourth.

Turn in at the last cone, gradually roll on the throttle and let yourself drift into the middle of the track and try to hit a black spot in the middle of the track that's at the end of the Carousel. If you hit it you'll be dead in line for the entrance to Joe Bone. Dr. Gonzo showed me the mark and it works great but is hard to hit.

The SV has so much engine braking that the only places you need to brake are at the end of the pit straight and at the entrance to Diamond's Edge. All the rest is throttle control.

At the start of the day, try it at moderate speed and as the day wears on and you gain confidence increase your speed and move the downshift to after the first cone.
So you don't brake at all? Hmm... I'll give that a try
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again it's all about gearing also. on my sprint bike sv i had -1 +2 and i was topped out in 6th gear way before my downshift and braking in the carousel.

with my endurance sv, it had a +1 rear, and it was topping out in 6th gear right before the brake marker also.

too many variables....just know the line, and work yourself up to it, you'll be just fine thomas. you've come a long way, i'm proud of ya buddy.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:33 PM   #29
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If you wanna go faster, just gas more and brake less. If that isn't fast enough, then just cut through the corner working area.

I have been doing trackdays for over 3 years and still slow. I can tell you that seat time and more seat time to get you moving. You can ask and get all kind of pointers but if you're skill isn't up to par, those infos are useless.
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