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Old 07-28-2009, 11:15 AM   #1
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I've been zooming around the neighborhood all morning, practicing my riding. There's this great sweeping curve in my neighborhood with no cars and a good view of oncoming traffic. I'm working on taking it as fast as I can while staying in the middle of my lane, great practice. But every other turn in my neighborhood is a narrow 90 degree turn, even narrower with cars parked all over the place. If I take them too slow, the steering geometry gets all fvcked up. Fast enough to be able to counter steer, and I feel I'm cutting it too close to the curb or parked cars. I have trouble turning from a stop sign too. I'll definitely try to go to a parking lot this weekend to get some practice, cones make much better boundaries than cars and curbs. But any advice for the time being? I took MSF a little over a week ago, and, just like the instructors said, I wish I would have practiced the box more than I did.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:19 AM   #2
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I've been zooming around the neighborhood all morning, practicing my riding. There's this great sweeping curve in my neighborhood with no cars and a good view of oncoming traffic. I'm working on taking it as fast as I can while staying in the middle of my lane, great practice. But every other turn in my neighborhood is a narrow 90 degree turn, even narrower with cars parked all over the place. If I take them too slow, the steering geometry gets all fvcked up. Fast enough to be able to counter steer, and I feel I'm cutting it too close to the curb or parked cars. I have trouble turning from a stop sign too. I'll definitely try to go to a parking lot this weekend to get some practice, cones make much better boundaries than cars and curbs. But any advice for the time being? I took MSF a little over a week ago, and, just like the instructors said, I wish I would have practiced the box more than I did.
1st. be careful!! cagers are idiots, if you enter a corner on a public street, even with full view ahead of you, you cant predict cagers.

2nd. good idea, for the close quarters turns, go practice the figure 8. i still do that from time to time.
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fck a trackday, he needs to be able to drive his bike out of the pits to get to the track or he may do something like tiatool.

go practice in your parking lot dood. countersteer ftw
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Get to know your bike and its slow speed handling, parking lot with a few cones or markers.
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fck a trackday, he needs to be able to drive his bike out of the pits to get to the track or he may do something like tiatool.

go practice in your parking lot dood. countersteer ftw
and what exactly did tiatool do?
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:31 AM   #9
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You should've done lots of those slow speed 90 degree turns during you class. Red lines where the cone kept being moved to make them tighter?

Anyway, head turns are imperative for those. Turn and look where you want the bike to go. Do not look down at the ground. And use your clutch.

Slow speed 90 degree turns aren't about leaning the bike. They're about clutch control and head turns. The practice guide you received at the end of class has more info.
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I've been zooming around the neighborhood all morning, practicing my riding. There's this great sweeping curve in my neighborhood with no cars and a good view of oncoming traffic. I'm working on taking it as fast as I can while staying in the middle of my lane, great practice. But every other turn in my neighborhood is a narrow 90 degree turn, even narrower with cars parked all over the place. If I take them too slow, the steering geometry gets all fvcked up. Fast enough to be able to counter steer, and I feel I'm cutting it too close to the curb or parked cars. I have trouble turning from a stop sign too. I'll definitely try to go to a parking lot this weekend to get some practice, cones make much better boundaries than cars and curbs. But any advice for the time being? I took MSF a little over a week ago, and, just like the instructors said, I wish I would have practiced the box more than I did.

Taking that section as fast as u can isnt a good idea. Neither is being in the middle of your lane.(antifreeze and oil goes there). Read the stickys threads. Not trying to hate just dont want to see need to fix my bike thread.
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You should've done lots of those slow speed 90 degree turns during you class. Red lines where the cone kept being moved to make them tighter?

Anyway, head turns are imperative for those. Turn and look where you want the bike to go. Do not look down at the ground. And use your clutch.

Slow speed 90 degree turns aren't about leaning the bike. They're about clutch control and head turns. The practice guide you received at the end of class has more info.
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