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Leather! The cow gave up his hide to save mine! 66 72.53%
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:52 PM   #21
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I totally agree that leather is the best abrasion protection, and will allow you to slide. What about hitting solid objects? Cars, poles, walls, concrete; what protects the best in those cases.
A big pillow.

or one of those jackets that have a built in air bag once you separate from the bike that may help some
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:32 AM   #22
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I don't feel safe when I wear my textile anymore. Leather always.... don't care how hot it is. I like my skin.. it's a keeper
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Freebie textile jacket until the leather jacket I wanted dropped to 50% off.

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Old 07-26-2009, 10:48 AM   #24
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In a discussion with a friend the other day, the topic of protective jackets came up. This is a common topic of discussion in almost any motorcycle riding crowd, and, not surprisingly, this one went the way I expected it to go. I said that I am old school in that I only wear leather; I don't consider textile jackets to offer enough protection. I do think that textile is far better than nothing at all, but said, as a guy who's been rashed up before, that it's leather for me. He disagreed, citing costs and comfort as the reasons he wears textile. I pointed out that cost and comfort have nothing to do with level of protection, but he didn't seem to care. (He didn't disagree with me about protection level, though.)

What do you wear? What do you think?
I wear good quality textile with armor on the street in the summer.
No, it does not have the ultimate slide protection leather does, but let's face it;
The best protection in world, a leather jacket, isn't doing anyone much good when it's hanging in the closet because it's too hot to wear.

I've personally seen at least a hundred or more people who have gone down in textile and have had minimal to no road rash because they at least had that on.
I'm a certified tester as well, having gone down at 45 mph in a FS Ti Air mesh jacket and not having a scratch.

Yes, leather is better, but with the advances in textile and armor, there's not that broad of a gap anymore, particularly for sane street use.

In the end, it's up to the individual. IF you're disciplined enough to wear leather, no matter what, than by all means wear it.

There was a time when I wouldn't leave the house on a bike without wearing either my Vanson or FS sport air leather jacket.

Nowadays I ride a bit more "conservatively" and have also recoginzed the advances made in textile protection.
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I wear both, no doubt that leather provides better protection. I understand this though, when I reach for the textile and leave the leather on the hanger.
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cant remember who it was but someone Clayton knows went down with textile and it melted into his skin like plastic (roadrash) when it got hot from sliding... that's all I can think about when I wear that textile. I think it's def better than nothing though
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+1 leather is the best, but a good textile w/ armor will do for putting around town.
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cant remember who it was but someone Clayton knows went down with textile and it melted into his skin like plastic (roadrash) when it got hot from sliding... that's all I can think about when I wear that textile. I think it's def better than nothing though
That's going to be a low quality textile, something with a lot of nylon in it that will melt.
None of the better brands use that in their construction.

I've seen inferior leathers bust at the seams in a 20 mph pit road mishap.

Like anything else, you get what you pay for.
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That's going to be a low quality textile, something with a lot of nylon in it that will melt.
None of the better brands use that in their construction.

I've seen inferior leathers bust at the seams in a 20 mph pit road mishap.

Like anything else, you get what you pay for.
The textile didn't melt (it was a Joe Rocket, so not the best). The mesh heated up from a long, high speed slide and melted his flesh. After the wreck, he had to go get the wound cut open to pick the mesh (which was intact) out of his right deltoid. He was wearing a sleeveless shirt under the jacket.

Saw a video last week during the isle of man TT showing the air bag race suit. Rossi wears one during practice sessions, but not during the race. The brains of the suit are in the speed hump. Mostly protects the collar bones, chest area. I believe motogp suits are almost 100% kangaroo which protects just as good, but is lighter. I have heard that Dainese uses special breeds of molecular-engineered cows
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Textile for the time being because I cant afford a leather but I would rather have a Leater
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The textile didn't melt (it was a Joe Rocket, so not the best). The mesh heated up from a long, high speed slide and melted his flesh. After the wreck, he had to go get the wound cut open to pick the mesh (which was intact) out of his right deltoid. He was wearing a sleeveless shirt under the jacket.
So he probably would have gotten a similar friction burn from leather, just maybe not had to have the debris picked out of the wound?
Then again, I seen suit liners "melt" into the skin when leather is heated during a slide.

Let's face it, going down is not fun, and will probably net you some injuries.

As I've already stated, leather is the best protection available, but if either cost or comfort are factors, textile does an admirable job of protection, and is head and shoulders above a t-shirt.
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There are a lot of different kinds of textiles - as Patrick said - you normally get what you pay for.

Some of the less expensive mesh is better than nothing, but it cannot be compared to high end textiles such as some of the more expensive types Motorcycles Unlimited could offer, and IMO the textiles used in high end suits like a Roadcrafter - are VERY close to leather in abrasion protection and perhaps better than leather in reducing injuries caused from tumbling. I agree ultimately leather is the best abrasion protection. I have attached some interesting reading out of the Aerostich catalog. The first 2 paragraphs are the most relative to this discussion.

Aerostich DOES recommend you wear a layer of cotton under their textiles suits as a temperature barrier to prevent burns from the high temps created during sliding.

http://tank.aerostich.com/catalogs/s...om.php?page=19

I have crashed going very fast (T 7 CCW @ MSRH) with Vanson Perforated leathers on and they served me VERY well, however I can tell you they did tear on the back (the tear formed a 90 degree "L" approx 6" x 6") and was obviously patterend along the perforations - fortunately the back pad in the suit continued to offer me good protection and I got NO Rash - Zero - Nada. I did begin tumbling immediatley and best I can remember I stopped tumbling about a week later.

Bates is an old leather manufacturer who I think is primarily in the drag race world these days and will not make perforated leathers - they say they will tear along the perforations (my T 7 crash seems to have supported their beliefs). Non perforated leathers are un - useable (for me) in our part of the world in the warm times of the year - about 8 - 9 months per year.
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why no option for those of us who wear mesh one day and leather the next?
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Because next you'll want to add: mesh one day / leather the next / speedo and flip flops / ......................
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This poll is about protective jackets, Chris, not about thong underwear.
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Leather all the way. I own two leather jackets. I would not purchase a mesh or textile. I payed good money for my tattoos and don't want them forcibly removed.
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