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Old 07-12-2009, 10:02 PM   #1
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Can someone with experience on the track describe to me what the proper lines are to take around a corner and about what speed you should be at going through a 90 degree corner?
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90* sweeper = 142 mph
The proper line is the fastest way through it.

Dude, read "Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code, then read "Twist of the Wrist II" by Keith Code. Attend your first track day.

There is no answer to your question above, I have never, ever thought about what speed I should be at in any corner, ever. And there are a number of ways to get through a corner- lines are objective and situation dependent.
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Too little information. You ride to your ability and the bike/road conditions.

The idea is to straighten out the corner best as possible.

For safety on the street keep acceleration through the corner and increase mid apex when you can see your exit.



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My first trackday is this Friday. Just trying to do a little homework. I like to prepare ahead of time for things that are important to me. I was reading a thread on sportbikes.net. The author was a racer that was talking about how some trackday organizations taught lines that were more safety orientated than race orientated. I just want to know the difference.
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Preparation is good, but I think you may be over-thinking this a bit.
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you'll figure out the difference once ur out there bro. there's no way to explain or point out lines on a website. it's gonna be great! have fun and be safe on ur 1st trackday amigo
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you'll figure out the difference once ur out there bro. there's no way to explain or point out lines on a website. it's gonna be great! have fun and be safe on ur 1st trackday amigo
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No worries...

Where are you going and w who?
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My first trackday is this Friday. Just trying to do a little homework. I like to prepare ahead of time for things that are important to me. I was reading a thread on sportbikes.net. The author was a racer that was talking about how some trackday organizations taught lines that were more safety orientated than race orientated. I just want to know the difference.
Did you read my post under the smartass initial comment? Read the books. The internet is not the place to get your information.

The books by reputable authors recommended by experienced riders/ racers will get you some great starting information.

Also all td orgs and instruction are not alike; for drama's sake, I'll leave it at that.
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Where are you going and w who?
TWS (Texas World Speedway) with TTD
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Did you read my post under the smartass initial comment? Read the books. The internet is not the place to get your information.

The books by reputable authors recommended by experienced riders/ racers will get you some great starting information.

Also all td orgs and instruction are not alike; for drama's sake, I'll leave it at that.
I got it and those books are now on my list.
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TWS (Texas World Speedway) with TTD
It's probably gonna be in the rain
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don't over think this one. you will want to have the basic concept of what an apex is and a smooth thottle will help. I have'nt really heard anyone preach safety lines specifically, other than comon sense, and respect fellow rider, keep a pedictable and steady line. Don't make drastic corrections or swerve unaturally across the track, follow the flow of it. Once you can consitiently do that then your pace will natually pick up more effortlessly than if you tried to run hard. Also many of us begginers tend to use more of the track than truly needed to for the speeds were going. One thing I've did more of lately is not running all the way out the the outside edge on an exit or entry, keeping enough room in case someones looking around the outside. This is not a rule but passing on the outside may be a rule depending on the org and you don't want to run out wide and run someone off just for the sake of runing the fast line. As you get faster you'll naturally push more to the outside anyway. just an opinon...do get the twist II book if nothing else.
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It's probably gonna be in the rain
don't jinx it.

I'm getting my stuff lined up to go as well. May see you out there. First time at TWS (Texas World Speedway) so I'll prob run novice for starters.
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don't jinx it.

I'm getting my stuff lined up to go as well. May see you out there. First time at TWS (Texas World Speedway) so I'll prob run novice for starters.
We will either get lucky or get some good training.
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Twist of the Wrist II is not a sequel of Twist of the Wrist, it's an update. You need only read the newest one.
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Dgrimes, don't worry you'll have a good time.
Remember, you are controlling the bike so the danger is minimal. Listen to the instructors, stay within your limits (don't feel like you gotta go fast just cause you are on a "race track".

Two other pieces of advice before I shut up:

Breathe (it can be so intense you find that you are forgetting, that causes early fatigue)
Drink more water than you think you need. The rule of thumb is; if you don't have to pee, right now, you aren't hydrated.
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Twist of the Wrist II is not a sequel of Twist of the Wrist, it's an update. You need only read the newest one.
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