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Old 07-08-2009, 11:31 AM   #1
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time-serts? heli-coil? tap? what's best? where to go near Heights?

anyone able to install time-serts, heli-coil, tap a hole near the heights?

I have 3 holes to fix to mount my rotor back on my wheel.
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Wes, you able to take care of me during a lunch break or is that too short? I would guess, way too short.

I do need to get there tomorrow at noon.
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Time-Serts are the way to go. I recently had to put time-serts in a head, the kit came with everything and worked well.....They are expensive though. I spent $85 for just a single size, M8x1.25 kit.

Not sure what size bolt/hole you are trying to fix but I have the serts left over, you are welcome to use them and the kit but its only for a M8x1.25 size hole.
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is retapping not as strong as time-serts?

because to install a time-sert or helicoil, don't you have to tap?

i am not opposed to using a larger bolt and making a bigger hole, if that is the best thing.
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Well with either the heli-coil or the time-sert, you will have to re-drill and install the insert. IMOP the time-serts are stronger then heli-coils because they are solid, not all springy like a slinky. On a time-sert you will drill the hole with the supplied bit, then you have to drill a counter sink as the inserts are flanged(which helps them stay in stronger and fit flush). I used them on my head on my bike on all 8 header bolts to hold 30lbs worth of turbo and they are holding fine.

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But if its not a real critical deal you are trying to repair, and you have plenty of meat in the area, you could probably just drill out the damaged threads, then re-tap to the next size up bolt. That would be the cheapest option. Thats basically what you are doing with the time-sert except when you are done, you will have the same size/thread bolt hole as before.
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Changing the bolt size changes the torque requirement. Unless you do all of them you will have differing amount of stress at the mounting locations. I personally wouldn't do that to a wheel. Use the inserts.
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near the heights, sam's cycle sales, 605 silver st. google them. alternatively pm user romeo36, he works there. maybe he can tell you for sure if they can help.
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Changing the bolt size changes the torque requirement. Unless you do all of them you will have differing amount of stress at the mounting locations. I personally wouldn't do that to a wheel. Use the inserts.
Don't the rotor bolts basically keep it from falling off? The recessed areas that the rotor sits in take most of the force, I believe.

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time-serts? heli-coil? tap? what's best? where to go near Heights?
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hotnanas would you happen to know the bolt size that you need taped/heli-coiled
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:13 AM   #11
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no i have no idea. i did text romeo right after I did this, and I have also spoken to wes at sportcycles of houston when I went to his shop yesterday to pick up other parts. they are a common metric size/thread though.

the things is, the cheap Chinese wheel that this is going in cost about $50...which is probably and usually less than 1 hour of work at any shop, be it a machine shop, motorcycle shop, or so on. I am thinking about just buying a new wheel.

(and about that, this is the second wheel that the threads have come out of...so if I would have time-serted the first, I would have probably saved money...so don't buy cheap chinese wheels if you plan on doing stoppies)
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Old 07-11-2009, 11:12 AM   #12
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well being a guy who thinks you can never have too many tools, i bought a Time-Sert set off ebay for $105-shipped that should work well for me.

Kit includes:
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* J-42385-869 (3) BOLTS

* J-42385-860 M16X1.5 12.7mm (10) INSERT

* J-42385-851 DRILL FIXTURE

* J-42385-503 (3) BOLTS

* J-42385-852 TIME SERT K1.0 CORE STEP DRILL

* J-42385-864 TIME-SERT M16X1.5 DRIVER

* J-42385-863 TIME-SERT M16X1.5 TAP

* J-42385-862 TIME-SERT M16X1.5 COUNTERBORE

* J-42385-861 TIME-SERT M16X1.5 DRILL

* J-42385-855 M12X1.75 24mm (10) INSERT

* J-42385-504 TIME-SERT M11X1.5 STEP DRILL

* J-42385-506 TIME-SERT M11X1.5 HEAD DRIVER

* J-42385-853 TIME-SERT K1.25 CORE STEP DRILL

* J-42385-513 TIME-SERT M10X1.5 DRIVER

* J-42385-511 TIME-SERT M10X1.5 STEP DRILL

* J-42385-859 TIME-SERT M12X1.75 DRIVER

* J-42385-857 TIME-SERT M12X1.75 COUNTERBORE

* J-42385-856 TIME-SERT M12X1.75 DRILL

* J-42385-514 M10X1.5 22mm INSERT (10)

* J-42385-215 M10X1.5 20mm INSERT (8)

* J-42385-303 TIME-SERT M11 ALIGN PIN

* J-42385-871 BUSHING

* J-42385-865 M12X1.75 10mm (10)

* J-42385-209 M8X1.25 DRIVER

* J-42385-208 M8X1.25 TAP

* J-42385-207 M8X1.25 COUNTERBORE

* J-42385-206 M8X1.25 DRILL

* J-42385-210 M8X1.25 16.2mm INSERT (10)

* J-42385-308 M10 ALIGN PIN

* J-42385-870 BUSHING

* J-42385-507 M11X1.5 30mm INSERT (10)

* J-42385-205 M6X1.0 12mm INSERT (4)

* J-42385-204 M6X1.0 DRIVER

* J-42385-203 M6X1 TAP

* J-42385-202 M6X1.0 COUNTERBORE

* J-42385-201 M6X1.0 DRILL

* J-42385-854 M8X1.25 11.7mm INSERTS
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