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Old 12-10-2007, 11:59 AM   #81
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:06 PM   #82
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1) Eliminate social welfare
2) Force Fathers to support every child they spawn
3) Make adoption with easier to do
4) Tax the out of fertility treatments (hopefully more people will then look at adoption)
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:16 PM   #83
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make aliens serve at least 2years in the military. get rid of income tax and double sales tax. even if they are illegal there paying taxes the same amount we are
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:25 PM   #84
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i have a pretty fuked up and warped view on this matter so id rather not share, lol... but i do think it is needed!
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I Fathered ONE, Another guy the other 2, in which hes not paying for:/:
So you have two kids at home.

Which one of you is fixed?
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:29 PM   #86
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Yeah I'm with Moody, we don't have an issue with population control here in America. Our issue lies within the area of the quality of the population. All this other talk of controlling the quality issue by the various means discussed in this thread such as wmd, viruses and other various means of ridding the world of large amounts of people on the grounds of the individuals' intelligence, etc whether facetious or not is bordering on Nazism...to even seek out such a policy would be highly deleterious to the country as a whole.
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Hitler had some unique views on population control.
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anyone seen idiocracy? match point
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The real question is, Who will govern the population? Are you ready to give up your right to life? What if the governing body decides to place an age cap? So you hit 70 and it is time to head down to the incinerator. There are many problems with how are population is being developed but, most of them deal with reason and logic.
Wasn't there a movie about this? The guy had met the age limit and then decided to run...I think that's part of the movie title lol...? RUN
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The real question is, Who will govern the population? Are you ready to give up your right to life? What if the governing body decides to place an age cap? So you hit 70 and it is time to head down to the incinerator. There are many problems with how are population is being developed but, most of them deal with reason and logic.
Exactly. That was my point with my 'Hitler' comment. He was given the power to make those decisions and look how it turned out.
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Exactly. That was my point with my 'Hitler' comment. He was given the power to make those decisions and look how it turned out.


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...bordering on Nazism...to even seek out such a policy would be highly deleterious to the country as a whole.
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Exactly. That was my point with my 'Hitler' comment. He was given the power to make those decisions and look how it turned out.


Everybody here that has mentioned there favor for population control is definetly on the border of siding with the Natzis. Everybody thinks they are so brilliant and they would pass all the standards but, once you give up control most of us could easily be set to fail the standards.
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so does population control necessarily mean killing people? what about prevention? like limiting the number of kids people are allowed to have based on financial responsibility...make a lot of money = have a lot of kids, making minimum wage = don't try to spit out a football team
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so does population control necessarily mean killing people? what about prevention? like limiting the number of kids people are allowed to have based on financial responsibility...make a lot of money = have a lot of kids, making minimum wage = don't try to spit out a football team
How would you, within the confines of the Constitution, implement something of the sort? I'm not seeing how this type of policy would be implemented. But you're right, Pop. Ctrl should not automatically constitute killing people.

Click here for one proposed method: Baby Tax needed to save planet
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so does population control necessarily mean killing people? what about prevention? like limiting the number of kids people are allowed to have based on financial responsibility...make a lot of money = have a lot of kids, making minimum wage = don't try to spit out a football team
I was doing some research and found that in China, there are going to be several tens of thousands of male who will not be able to find mates since famileis are only allowed one child and they abort females.
France is in dire straights like the Russia in the fact that they are not going to have enough people in the next 30 to 40 years to maintain economic growth and industry. France has already started programs like in work child care and tax breaks for starting families.
The US is facing the same situation but a little further down the road in 40 to 50 years.
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I was doing some research and found that in China, there are going to be several tens of thousands of male who will not be able to find mates since famileis are only allowed one child and they abort females.
France is in dire straights like the Russia in the fact that they are not going to have enough people in the next 30 to 40 years to maintain economic growth and industry. France has already started programs like in work child care and tax breaks for starting families.
The US is facing the same situation but a little further down the road in 40 to 50 years.
so are you trying to say they don't have enough people? :dontknow:
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so are you trying to say they don't have enough people? :dontknow:
That is exactly what my research has found. I discovered these facts when this thread started.
The US has the ability to sustain approximately 500 Millions, to which we are currently at the 300 Million mark.
Economic hardship and civil unrest has caused the last two generations of people in most countries to have lower birth rates.
Famileis in Africa and other 3rd world countries have higher birth rates but have a much higher fatality rate that developed countries.
China will have to import a female population to sustain their economy in the next 40 years.
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That is exactly what my research has found. I discovered these facts when this thread started.
The US has the ability to sustain approximately 500 Millions, to which we are currently at the 300 Million mark.
Economic hardship and civil unrest has caused the last two generations of people in most countries to have lower birth rates.
Famileis in Africa and other 3rd world countries have higher birth rates but have a much higher fatality rate that developed countries.
China will have to import a female population to sustain their economy in the next 40 years.
so who/what is your source for this info? the us might have the ability to sustain that many people but will it? i don't think there's any kind of even distribution of resources. maybe those numbers are just if everything was perfectly even for everyone and under optimal conditions.
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Standared media sources through CNN, MSBN, and Fox web pages.
Keywaord search, "Population"
I didn't think there was a problem with population when I first saw this thread so I started looking into it. According to one article, the Earth can sustain a population of close to 9 billion with us at the 6 million mark now. We will have to start colonizing after that. There are also some very intersting article on eco-farming for Mars. Actually growing an envoronment more suitable for human life.
Good stuff!
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so does population control necessarily mean killing people? what about prevention? like limiting the number of kids people are allowed to have based on financial responsibility...make a lot of money = have a lot of kids, making minimum wage = don't try to spit out a football team
Obviously not, there are plenty of views on it but, keeping the process in check and initially not infringing on consitutional rights would probably be the biggest concerns.
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