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Old 06-02-2008, 01:15 PM   #21
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lol, he's got more road miles then pretty much ever poster on here, his current VFR has 60k+

hindsight is 20/20

not alot i woulda done diff. in vid. 1. he kept an eye on the truck, and as soon as the driver turned he moved over, his closing speed was a bit higher then the trucks

2nd vid is more controversial in that it's an aggressive move. staying where he did vs bowing down to the truck.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:16 PM   #22
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lol, he's got more road miles then pretty much ever poster on here, his current VFR has 60k+

hindsight is 20/20
you should know better than anyone....miles don't equal skill.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:18 PM   #23
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true, but staying upright w/o crashing has alot of weight

esp if your a sportbiker vs cruiser. we all know that S/B generally ride faster then cruisers.


not alot i woulda done diff. in vid. 1. he kept an eye on the truck, and as soon as the driver turned he moved over, his closing speed was a bit higher then the trucks

2nd vid is more controversial in that it's an aggressive move. staying where he did vs bowing down to the truck.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:31 PM   #24
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true, but staying upright w/o crashing has alot of weight

esp if your a sportbiker vs cruiser. we all know that S/B generally ride faster then cruisers.


not alot i woulda done diff. in vid. 1. he kept an eye on the truck, and as soon as the driver turned he moved over, his closing speed was a bit higher then the trucks

2nd vid is more controversial in that it's an aggressive move. staying where he did vs bowing down to the truck.
Did you just say that twice. And secret agent maybe I like kicking cars. Ever thought of that?
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:34 PM   #25
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true, but staying upright w/o crashing has alot of weight

esp if your a sportbiker vs cruiser. we all know that S/B generally ride faster then cruisers.


not alot i woulda done diff. in vid. 1. he kept an eye on the truck, and as soon as the driver turned he moved over, his closing speed was a bit higher then the trucks

2nd vid is more controversial in that it's an aggressive move. staying where he did vs bowing down to the truck.
If there is a 3 lane like that, I would always move to the farthest if I was to cruise behind it. Other then that, I would always try to stay in front. Just hoped that he doesn't rear ended me when we come to a stop. That's my biggest fear. If we could just split or filter through at a stop or lights, we'll be safer.

As for aggressive move, that's a no-no. Isn't MSF is all about defensive/awareness riding? Get your out of harm's way?

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Old 06-02-2008, 02:46 PM   #26
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Did you just say that twice. And secret agent maybe I like kicking cars. Ever thought of that?
i've been known to leave my mark on a few less-than-curtious cages myself, but i make sure to get the out of the way right after!
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:47 PM   #28
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i've been known to leave my mark on a few less-than-curtious cages myself, but i make sure to get the out of the way right after!
Well heck yea, with a twist of the wrist that sucker is in the mirror looking dumbfounded or .
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:57 PM   #29
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and then what if he decided to swerve into you and run you over? who wins then?

the guy was a dumbass for sitting next to the truck for so long, and then not reacting until the guy was practically on top of him. if he rides that route every day he should know that that lane ends, and prevent himself from being in that situation to begin with, ESPECIALLY with the left lane wide open.

as for the first video, that could have been easily avoided as well. at the start of the video you can see both vehicles are traveling at approx the same speed, the truck suddenly slows (reason for the decrease in gap between the two), and then trys to jump across the freeway to exit...the rider should have noticed the abrupt loss of speed, and distanced himself sooner. he got lucky and had an open lane next to him. imagine if he was riding next to someone like he was in the second video...no where to go. but what was the point of going 30-40mph down the freeway just to catch a glimpse of the truck that exited?? what was the point of that, besides making him a sitting duck to any traffic behind him?

guy needs to go and take the ERC before he kills himself.
same exact things i was thinking. stupid move on the rider really
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:36 PM   #30
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bad idea to hang out in the blind spot like that.
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:38 PM   #31
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for the night time incident, did you/he have his brights on? i always ride with mine on. sometimes people get upset about it but id rather that then someone not see me.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:51 PM   #32
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First vid: Didn't see him riding in anyone's blind spot as some have commented. He was passing on the right (but Houston drives don't understand "keep right except to pass" so you have to). He was passing through the blind spot but was not riding in it. Could have used the rightmost lane and left the center as additional buffer. The truck would have still cut him off as he passed over there, but would have additional time to react. Hard looks to the truck driver afterwards were unnecessary, but we all indulge.

Second vid: Would have pulled farther ahead of the truck or moved over and around. In a standoff with a cage over lane control you stand to lose. Rider knew the truck's lane was going to end and should have avoided the fender vs knee confrontation. Hey, for me it's just an excuse to crank the throttle!

Hey Racer X, every encounter offers opportunities for lessons learned - right?
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:47 PM   #33
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i knew 500's were kinda slow, but not that slow..........
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:05 AM   #34
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Yep. All the time. Always ride on the defensive, and if situations like this unerve you, you may wanna think twice about riding.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:26 AM   #35
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especially in austin. i moved there after i graduated highschool back in the mid 90s. i was on my way to my new apt and wasnt in town more than thirty minutes before i noticed how bad the drivers there are. you guys think houston is bad, austin will definitely keep you on your toes.
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wont comment on the actions leading up to the incident... but wow why stare the guy down. in the time he spent looking back at the truck exiting another car could have swerved into him. haha.
dane cook impression = ummmm hello?
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double standards much? lawl

glad to see he didn't get injured.
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