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SBK Pilot
10-22-2005, 08:39 AM
off the track pipe - lstd (http://www.lstd.com) @ TWS on sep 30th, enjoy...

http://66.49.193.52/vidz/steveochap.htm (8 mins)

and if the server hangs - sorry... any more than two concurrent downloads and the server max bandwidth is exceeded... (25mb file)...

:director: translation = if the video hangs, try it again in 8 mins and it prolly won't hang...

oooooh... and it's seems as though some peepz may not know this... if you double click the video it will go full screen... just double it click again or press the esc to normalize it back... :nod:

henry :glasses9:

fuknrobert
10-22-2005, 09:42 AM
http://24.173.4.225/misc/steveochap.wmv

arturo3rd
10-22-2005, 10:25 AM
tight

arturo3rd
10-22-2005, 10:26 AM
why cant i DL to my computer?

Los
10-22-2005, 10:32 AM
i am downloading now

Steve O Chap
10-22-2005, 10:53 AM
Thanks Henry... the footage came out great!! Thanks also for putting it to Enter Sandman... that's one of my all time favorite songs!

If I remember correctly that's when Josh was behind you and we were showing him some lines right? If so... that's what 2:15s looks like at TWS everyone. Come on out with us... the one part you can't see is the huge smiles on mine and Henry's faces! :icon_thum

SBK Pilot
10-22-2005, 11:18 AM
Come on out with us...
:werd:

had a blast out there man... i just hope we can get some more motohouston peeps up there... (this means you Carlos, Alex, Bao, Din... and a ton ya'll i've met up @ 1960, on rides, at the photoshoot and the motohouston barbeque)...

who knows... one day... maybe we can have a motohouston/lstd trackday... :headbang:

arturo3rd
10-22-2005, 12:39 PM
Thanks Henry... the footage came out great!! Thanks also for putting it to Enter Sandman... that's one of my all time favorite songs!

If I remember correctly that's when Josh was behind you and we were showing him some lines right? If so... that's what 2:15s looks like at TWS everyone. Come on out with us... the one part you can't see is the huge smiles on mine and Henry's faces! :icon_thum
the first lap i (after you passed the finish line) i time you at 2:26. i turned it off with around 2 minutes left so i dont know if you did anymore.

looking good though :icon_thum


who can record me? ufo34 or fz1?

ufo34
10-22-2005, 12:49 PM
Looking good Steve :icon_thum

Henry, we should follow each other, i've never seen a footage of myself :sad11:

ufo34
10-22-2005, 12:55 PM
who can record me? ufo34 or fz1?[/QUOTE]

No problem, might have to be next year though, i'm done for this year.

TooBuku
10-22-2005, 01:18 PM
gangsta.

Steve O Chap
10-22-2005, 01:29 PM
the first lap i (after you passed the finish line) i time you at 2:26. i turned it off with around 2 minutes left so i dont know if you did anymore.

looking good though :icon_thum


who can record me? ufo34 or fz1?

Yeah, that might have been when we were doing 2:18s... I forget cause I rode with Josh and Henry most of the day. The last 2 sessions I picked up the pace and the lap timer said I was doing 2:08s and 2:09s so I was happy with that for a 91hp machine. :keke:

SBK Pilot
10-22-2005, 03:06 PM
Henry, we should follow each otherlet's do it bro... :icon_thum

SBK Pilot
10-22-2005, 03:06 PM
who can record me?you goin on the 7th?...

PETE
10-22-2005, 04:00 PM
:werd:

had a blast out there man... i just hope we can get some more motohouston peeps up there... (this means you Carlos, Alex, Bao, Din... and a ton ya'll i've met up @ 1960, on rides, at the photoshoot and the motohouston barbeque)...

who knows... one day... maybe we can have a motohouston/lstd trackday... :headbang:

great ass video man, im starting to considering signing up forthe track as a begginer and check it out, i heard its 50 times more fun than the streets. how much do track days cost to get on?

arturo3rd
10-22-2005, 04:40 PM
you goin on the 7th?...

of course! me and javier are going and ill be in the B group :icon_thum

i might do the dec. 10 ridesmart too.

arturo3rd
10-22-2005, 04:41 PM
great ass video man, im starting to considering signing up forthe track as a begginer and check it out, i heard its 50 times more fun than the streets. how much do track days cost to get on?

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4310

LSTD runs around $150 and Ridesmart around $130. I say do a Ridesmart event then try LSTD. LSTD has a beginners class too so ive heard :icon_thum

PETE
10-22-2005, 05:53 PM
http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4310

LSTD runs around $150 and Ridesmart around $130. I say do a Ridesmart event then try LSTD. LSTD has a beginners class too so ive heard :icon_thum

:thumbsup: thanks i might come hang with yall, other than gear, do i need anything else for the track? Sorry im track noob, I just want to check it out and take my time to learn and see what track is really all about :icon_thum

arturo3rd
10-22-2005, 06:26 PM
:thumbsup: thanks i might come hang with yall, other than gear, do i need anything else for the track? Sorry im track noob, I just want to check it out and take my time to learn and see what track is really all about :icon_thum

alot of smal things like tools, gas can, cooler, chair, etc. but all you need it transportation to get you there and the gear.

PETE
10-22-2005, 06:27 PM
alot of smal things like tools, gas can, cooler, chair, etc. but all you need it transportation to get you there and the gear.

gotcha :thumbsup:

Steve O Chap
10-22-2005, 11:05 PM
of course! me and javier are going and ill be in the B group :icon_thum

i might do the dec. 10 ridesmart too.

B group rules... I think I'm a B group lifer, haha. If I can consistently hit the sub 2:00 mark then maybe I'll consider A group, but that's not happening with my current skills and current bike setup.

I'll be there on the 7th and might do the 10th... but it takes a long time to heat up the tires in December/January... that's the main reason I wouldn't do it. Toooo cold. :sad7:

I'll see you guys on the 7th... last paddock again?

j14
10-22-2005, 11:46 PM
cool vid steve, u just hope one day I'll be able to pull 2:15s, I'll be there on the 7th w/ 'Turo and I would mind pitting w/ you guys if that's allright...?

SBK Pilot
10-23-2005, 09:29 AM
:headbang:

arturo3rd
10-23-2005, 09:38 AM
i believe James will aslo be there in B group. we will be there the night before but im not sure if we are going to a hotel or camp over.

j14
10-23-2005, 01:07 PM
yeah..last time we got owned by the heat and weather...not to mention skeeters!

Steve O Chap
10-23-2005, 03:03 PM
cool vid steve, u just hope one day I'll be able to pull 2:15s, I'll be there on the 7th w/ 'Turo and I would mind pitting w/ you guys if that's allright...?

You'll be getting 2:15s in no time... just keep doing trackdays and asking good questions. Set a realistic goal for yourself and by asking questions you'll learn what you need to do to get there.

Next year I have the goal of 2:00.. we'll see. I have alot of learning to do before getting there, gotta drop another 8-9 seconds.

dotcom
10-23-2005, 06:25 PM
I would really like to do a track day.. but holy fucking nOOb at it... i would just make an ass out of myself

Steve O Chap
10-23-2005, 06:42 PM
I would really like to do a track day.. but holy fucking nOOb at it... i would just make an ass out of myself

All the more reason to do it! :icon_bigg So you can learn to rider better/safer. Last trackday there was a guy on a Honda ST1100. There have been Harleys at 2 of 3 trackdays. I've never seen you ride... but I'm SURE you can take a Harley. :laughing6

Moody
10-23-2005, 10:02 PM
Looks like fun! :icon_thum

PETE
10-23-2005, 11:12 PM
All the more reason to do it! :icon_bigg So you can learn to rider better/safer. Last trackday there was a guy on a Honda ST1100. There have been Harleys at 2 of 3 trackdays. I've never seen you ride... but I'm SURE you can take a Harley. :laughing6

is that u riding an f4i in that picture? if so, sweet! :icon_thum

Steve O Chap
10-24-2005, 07:13 PM
is that u riding an f4i in that picture? if so, sweet! :icon_thum

Yup... F4i's rule!

B.S. Motorsports
10-24-2005, 07:57 PM
damn no knee draging but nie none the less.

Steve O Chap
10-24-2005, 08:03 PM
damn no knee draging but nie none the less.

Draggin knees is nothing big, I keep my knees in... I don't like to drag them, plus it's alot cheaper than having to buy knee pucks every 2 or so trackdays. :icon_bigg

B.S. Motorsports
10-24-2005, 08:08 PM
ic ic i fiured all pro's did it but i figured wrong(like normal) cool cant wait to get out there and drag with yall//

Steve O Chap
10-24-2005, 08:15 PM
ic ic i fiured all pro's did it but i figured wrong(like normal) cool cant wait to get out there and drag with yall//

There are a few here who can drag knees: Carlos, Gianni, James, Arturo, Henry... I just don't like the feeling. I put it down for just a sec then pull it back in... it all comes to personal preference really.

It's really alot easier than many think, and it's not a tell tale sign that you're riding fast either... I mean, you have to be going a decent clip, but the misconception is that if you drag a knee you're hauling ass... which isn't necessarily so.

B.S. Motorsports
10-24-2005, 08:16 PM
ic ic ic

Steve O Chap
10-24-2005, 08:23 PM
ic ic ic

But either way... you should definitely come out and do a trackday. I remember the first time I did... I was amazed at how fast the guys were.

B.S. Motorsports
10-24-2005, 08:25 PM
o deff. just in a finatial bind right now and cant afford it but as soon as i get threw this little rough spot i will be out there man...

dotcom
10-24-2005, 10:01 PM
so if I was to do a trackday.. what would my total cost roughly you think add to...
I don't really want to race.. i just want to get in there and try it like ya'lll.. i have heard once you go to a track day, then you ride so much differently... i am willing to do it.. dont get me wrong.. i would like to learn as much about it as possible for sure...
thanks

willing and wanting to learn..

luv,
.com

speedismo
10-24-2005, 10:11 PM
if cost is an issue, then cornerwork half day and ride the other half. u save ~150bucks. rental gear 100bucks, ~50 bucks for gas, tuning(if u choose) etc etc is all else u will need to spend. worth every penny :icon_thum
there fore , ballpark figures:
300 if u do full day
150 if u cornerwork half day
50 if u can get somebody to lend u gear

PETE
10-25-2005, 02:00 AM
damn no knee draging but nie none the less.

i drag knee parking in my garage :icon_bigg

B.S. Motorsports
10-25-2005, 06:50 AM
i drag knee parking in my garage :icon_bigg

gangsta

Moody
10-25-2005, 09:07 AM
I usely only drag my knee as a reference to where I am on the tire. Then pull it up a little.... unless I lose traction then the knee keeps me stable while I back off. :hs:

CarbonJames
10-25-2005, 09:48 AM
if cost is an issue, then cornerwork half day and ride the other half. u save ~150bucks. rental gear 100bucks, ~50 bucks for gas, tuning(if u choose) etc etc is all else u will need to spend. worth every penny :icon_thum
there fore , ballpark figures:
300 if u do full day
150 if u cornerwork half day
50 if u can get somebody to lend u gear

an actuall trackday prolly wouldnt cost no more than $200.00 if you dont need anything special, 150.00 for the ride and then fuel ( 5 gallon can $18-$20 ) plus your food and lots of water. I never really spend much at all

CarbonJames
10-25-2005, 09:52 AM
and knee dragging isnt hard, but for some reason i cant get my left knee down but, no worries, its no big deal as long as the tires stay planted i dont care if my knee gets down or not,,

SBK Pilot
10-25-2005, 09:54 AM
:werd:

plus if you cornerwork...

Track Fees $ 0.00
Leathers/Gear Rental $ 100.00
Food $ 10.00
Bike Fuel (2 tanks) $ 30.00
Trailer up w/somebody $ 25.00
(split fuel)

it costs a whole lot less... :headbang:

CarbonJames
10-25-2005, 10:11 AM
:werd:

plus if you cornerwork...

Track Fees $ 0.00
Leathers/Gear Rental $ 100.00
Food $ 10.00
Bike Fuel (2 tanks) $ 30.00
Trailer up w/somebody $ 25.00
(split fuel)

it costs a whole lot less... :headbang:

dont forget to bring the microwave. $0.00 :laughing6

SBK Pilot
10-25-2005, 10:16 AM
but u can save $10 if you bring your own food... :confused1

ok ok... pwnd... :eh:

see you on the 7th beeyach... :violent4:

j14
10-25-2005, 11:27 AM
are you guys calculating fuel to get up there? I think it cost more than $200, especially if you don't have the leathers

Steve O Chap
10-25-2005, 08:57 PM
Trey, if you ever want to do a trackday just let me know... if you rent a uhaul bike trailor I'll pull your bike up with my truck. We can put my bike in my flatbed and your bike in the trailor.

One other thing you'll want to do is spend the $25 and have your suspension adjusted by Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited... he works with you throughout your sessions to fine tune it. And it makes a HUGE difference... one thing though, being a noob... you might want to do a full trackday and take the beginners course, it's pretty good stuff.

Chivalry
10-28-2005, 01:55 PM
So I noticed that the video was the 2.9 mile configuration. Is that the one that they always do with you?

I used to race cars out there and I can't wait to get my bike and get out there. I'll bet the Gravity Cavity is fun as hell on 2 wheels!

SBK Pilot
10-28-2005, 03:04 PM
So I noticed that the video was the 2.9 mile configuration. Is that the one that they always do with you?

I used to race cars out there and I can't wait to get my bike and get out there. I'll bet the Gravity Cavity is fun as hell on 2 wheels!
typically yes... though cmra shuts down the back half for the mini's/250 class races...

gravity bowl is one of the best turns... :headbang:

c'mon out and join the fun... :icon_thum

Ronnie H.
10-28-2005, 05:31 PM
are you guys calculating fuel to get up there? I think it cost more than $200, especially if you don't have the leathers

How much is it worth to you, to potentially learn a skill that could one day save your a$$?

There is nothing inexpensive about owning a sportbike. Get accustomed to this now. If you are looking for affordable, you should have chosen a different style of motorcycle.
--
Ronnie

arturo3rd
10-28-2005, 05:54 PM
How much is it worth to you, to potentially learn a skill that could one day save your a$$?

There is nothing inexpensive about owning a sportbike. Get accustomed to this now. If you are looking for affordable, you should have chosen a different style of motorcycle.
--
Ronnie

he means gas for the haul up there not the bike and he dropped around $2k already for two track days. everytime he goes up there he goes to learn especially since he hasnt had the bike or been riding since last January AFTER he took the MSF (which also costs money) :gesture:

j14
10-28-2005, 09:05 PM
How much is it worth to you, to potentially learn a skill that could one day save your a$$?

There is nothing inexpensive about owning a sportbike. Get accustomed to this now. If you are looking for affordable, you should have chosen a different style of motorcycle.
--
Ronnie
thanks for the info dude, but if sarcasm if going to be your advise...keep it. I'm pretty sure there are other people that KNOW me around here that would advise me as well....

arturo3rd
10-29-2005, 12:30 AM
thanks for the info dude, but if sarcasm if going to be your advise...keep it. I'm pretty sure there are other people that KNOW me around here that would advise me as well....

w3rd.

everyone got advice when they think they know whats going on. tell them about how you spent another $200 last week on better boots. they should be giving you and me advice on how to ride better, i mean thats why we post in the track forum and save up $$$ for trackdays.

i know i sound pissed but i dont like people ragging on new riders even though they make a effort to be better. no hard feelings :icon_thum

SBK Pilot
10-29-2005, 09:55 AM
the fact that j had some bike damage greatly raised his out of pocket expenses no doubt...

but i think you guys misunderstand... ronnie is just stating the truth very matter of factly... hittin the track might be expensive - but the skills you can gain from the experience make it well worth it... :nod:

arturo3rd
10-29-2005, 01:18 PM
the fact that j had some bike damage greatly raised his out of pocket expenses no doubt...

but i think you guys misunderstand... ronnie is just stating the truth very matter of factly... hittin the track might be expensive - but the skills you can gain from the experience make it well worth it... :nod:

nothing i learned on the track i take to the street. what i learned on the street i take the track. ronnie misunderstood what javier was saying with the fuel and it being expensive since we pay for everything to get there.

SBK Pilot
10-29-2005, 02:48 PM
nothing i learned on the track i take to the street
nothing?... :confused1

um... ok... srry my bad... :hs:

arturo3rd
10-29-2005, 02:53 PM
nothing?... :confused1

um... ok... srry my bad... :hs:

nothing. i dont ride fast on the street or commute as often. the track has spoiled me :crying:

you drag knee or ride at high speeds on the street and use your track skills, henry?

SBK Pilot
10-29-2005, 03:02 PM
nahhhh... i'm just thinking better skills at controlling your bike at highway speeds... less likely to panic in dealing with a close cager... you know - being calm during evasive maneuvers kinda skills...

i dunno... i feel soooo much more relaxed when i commute these days... even my reactions seem more like reflexes and they're smoother - i find that i don't have to think about things so much... anyway (personally) i gotta give some of the credit for that to what i've learned from porter, ronnie, alan tan, and ALL the lstd guys - even got some DAMN good coaching from patrick...

meh... to each his own bro... it's all good... :icon_thum

arturo3rd
10-29-2005, 03:12 PM
nahhhh... i'm just thinking better skills at controlling your bike at highway speeds... less likely to panic in dealing with a close cager... you know - being calm during evasive maneuvers kinda skills...

i dunno... i feel soooo much more relaxed when i commute these days... even my reactions seem more like reflexes and they're smoother - i find that i don't have to think about things so much... anyway (personally) i gotta give some of the credit for that to what i've learned from porter, ronnie, alan tan, and ALL the lstd guys - even got some DAMN good coaching from patrick...

meh... to each his own bro... it's all good... :icon_thum

i hear you but im more paranoid on the street. i rarely go out to ride now cuz i want to avoid traffic and street conditions. i felt more relaxed on the street before a track day because i was use to avoiding cars, potholes, etc. but on the track its so smooth and no distractions just reflexes.

the guys at LSTD and Ridesmart put on a good show. i want to get a cruiser type bike for street so it wont be as easy for me to relapse back into my street days.

Steve O Chap
10-29-2005, 03:26 PM
the guys at LSTD and Ridesmart put on a good show. i want to get a cruiser type bike for street so it wont be as easy for me to relapse back into my street days.

Word... same here. I'm looking at getting something like a BMW GS1200 or Buell Ulysses. SOmething that has some sporty nature to it, but that I can tour and go offroading a little bit.

arturo3rd
10-29-2005, 03:30 PM
Word... same here. I'm looking at getting something like a BMW GS1200 or Buell Ulysses. SOmething that has some sporty nature to it, but that I can tour and go offroading a little bit.

you paranoid too huh? :crying: looking at that same Buell and a yamaha warrior.

arturo3rd
10-29-2005, 03:36 PM
cool lookig bike especially after i take off the front fairing and mud guard :notworthy

http://www.insidebikes.com/news/admin/images/news/BuellUlysses06small.jpg

Steve O Chap
10-29-2005, 04:53 PM
Actually... I'm looking at the offroad Buell and the BMW GS. They are adventure tourers. :icon_bigg

http://www.canyonchasers.net/blog/uploads/072305deleted

http://www.corbin.com/bmw/gs122.jpg

If you want the XB12R then that might actually worsen your street riding, haha. They are torque monsters and will power up in 3rd gear with a slight tug at the bars. It's like the Triumph Speed Triple... you get one, and you get points on your lisence as a bonus. :laughing6

arturo3rd
10-29-2005, 04:55 PM
how much is the one you listed?

Steve O Chap
10-29-2005, 05:00 PM
I think they are like $12k... but if you get the luggage (which I will) it's $800 more. They had one at HD dealership by the Woodlands... I've read 3 reviews on it and all have said it's hands down the best Buell you can buy and a serious challenger to BMWs throne! :eek3:

The BMW is like $15k... but it has GPS! :icon_bigg

FireMalt
10-29-2005, 06:41 PM
SteveO has seen my "other bike", huh?

May not do a 10 second quarter mile, but that SOB will lay down some rubber when you dump the clutch!! :evil4:

j14
10-29-2005, 10:35 PM
the fact that j had some bike damage greatly raised his out of pocket expenses no doubt...


nothing happened to the bike or myself...I think you misunderstand what I was trying to say...It costs more than $200 for a trackday if you calculate the fuel it takes to get there and back plus renting leathers if you don't have them. I already have all of that and I DON'T MIND PAYING FOR A TRACKDAY because I know I'll get experience and results from there...but when you guys tell othere riders that it doesn't cost any more than 2 c-notes per trackday, I think that not entirely accurate depending on what the individual already owns (i.e. gear, truck, etc).

What I don't like is people coming on the board talking to me like they know me, assuming I WOULDN'T pay $160 per trackday...I that was the case this wouldn't be my 3rd day this year...yeah yeah I know I haven't been around long enough to say anything, but at least I'm trying....SO DON'T judge before knowing any sort of facts...that pisses me off :icon_thum

Steve O Chap
10-30-2005, 07:05 AM
Track riding is definitely pricier, this year I've been track only and it's not easy on the bank account. Here is my list of expenses for trackdays...

Trackday: $150

Tires every 2 trackdays: $250

Brake pads/fluid every 2 trackdays: $40

Gas to and from the trackday and for the bike: $50 - $150

Hotel stay (at some trackdays): $80

Food: $15

Pictures (every few trackdays): $35

So for me... a rough estimate indicates a trackday costs me around $350 - $400 plus many times I have to take a day off of work.

Also, despite being at the track where it's safer to crash... many people are more likely to crash there because of egos which lead to pushing and pushing your limits. Last year I spent about $2500 fixing my bike after a crash. Insurance does NOT cover a trackbike.

One last thing, don't forget about upgrades... I'm one of the VERY few people who've resisted this temptation. My bike is bone stock.

Front fork revalving/respringing: $500 - $750

Rear shock: $800 - $1200

DOT Race Tires: $300 per set

Front/Rear Stands: $100 - $200

Tire Warmers: $400

While it's pricier it's more worth it to me... this way, unless I make a stupid mistake, I'm almost guaranteed to come home to my wife every time I go riding.

arturo3rd
10-30-2005, 10:02 AM
so we all know its a expensive bike to own and going to a trackday doesnt make it cheaper. the fact we all chose to do track days seperate us from others in the sense that its more expensive for the style of riding we do with these sportbikes.

if all we did was cruise the strip -OR- were trying to get into track days -OR- was looking into buying a sportbike then the comment of: "There is nothing inexpensive about owning a sportbike. Get accustomed to this now. If you are looking for affordable, you should have chosen a different style of motorcycle."

would have been warranted :icon_thum

KiNG $h!T
10-30-2005, 03:40 PM
nice vid. as soon as i get the new bike im hitting up the track hopefully i can see 2:15s in the beginning when i get out there.

paniro187
10-30-2005, 04:49 PM
i hear you but im more paranoid on the street. i rarely go out to ride now cuz i want to avoid traffic and street conditions. i felt more relaxed on the street before a track day because i was use to avoiding cars, potholes, etc. but on the track its so smooth and no distractions just reflexes.

the guys at LSTD and Ridesmart put on a good show. i want to get a cruiser type bike for street so it wont be as easy for me to relapse back into my street days.
lol where's that thread on houston imports where i said that would happen and you said not likely and put this smiley :gesture:

told you that track is so addictive and so much safer. also when you compare curves on the track and the stret there's no comparison at all. you look back at the street like: Man that turn is shit.

i'm getting a cruiser bike soon too if i can find the right used 636 race bike first.

arturo3rd
10-30-2005, 05:00 PM
i'm getting a cruiser bike soon too if i can find the right used 636 race bike first.


hmm...arturo is often imitated but never duplicated :laughing6

j14
10-30-2005, 07:59 PM
hmm...arturo is often imitated but never duplicated :laughing6

:keke: how can you tell the original from the fake?

B.S. Motorsports
10-30-2005, 11:17 PM
i like that buell

DuBwEaR
10-31-2005, 03:14 AM
i didnt relize trackdays were so costly$$$. hope to go soon though

Moody
10-31-2005, 08:48 AM
Riding at the track is cheap when compared to hitting a light pole at 90mph. :icon_thum

dhdrider
10-31-2005, 09:18 AM
IMO, there are 2 general ways to look at track days.

Full blown track addict/racer (gets very expensive). You'll spend lots of $$ on tires, repairs, gear, track day supplies, pit stuff, etc.

However, there are lots of guys that do 2 to 3 track days a year for very little money. They use it as a chance to come out and run their bike to see more of what their sport bikes are capable of. They run street tires, don't use tire warmers, and use it to better develop their riding skills. Other than the cost of the track day and fuel, there is little to buy.

As far as leathers go, you should own full leathers, boots, gloves, and a helmet if you ride a sport bike regardless of whether you hit the track at all. Mandatory gear, IMO. It is inspires a huge amount of confidence. You'll be amazed how confident you feel, when fully protected. http://powersportsofhouston.com/images/annimated_gifs/twocents.gif

speedismo
10-31-2005, 10:01 AM
Very well put dhdrider. :icon_thum
I have done 2 track days this year. first one cost me 300bucks(fee+rental gear+ tuning etc)
second one cost me..hmm.. zilch! ..I had bought my own gear( which I would have anyway bought),, no fee because i cornerworked half day.
I dont really count food and gas as expenses towards track day, because I would have spent money on food even if I were in Houston, and spent money on gas hitting twisties or smthing as I m almost always out riding on weekends.
So for the fence sitters, yes, it can cost u a bit..but its not that expensive so as to never even try it.

SBK Pilot
10-31-2005, 10:42 AM
:werd:

once you have your gear, out of pocket expenses take a nose dive... :nod: :icon_thum

Ronnie H.
10-31-2005, 01:33 PM
There must have been some truth to what I said to illicit such strong responses.

First off, I was not being sarcastic. Debating fuel expenses (amongst others) is boredeline asinine, since not everyone is traveling the same distance.

Several people have already adequately described the "fixed" expenses, it seemed a moot point to continue the financial part of that discussion.

but i dont like people ragging on new riders

I made no critique about the rider nor his abilities. I simply stated that sportbikes are expensive. Be financially prepared for that or pick a more fiscally accomodating hobby. It's the same advice I've been sharing for the past 10 years.

As for using skills honed on the track being used on the street:
1) situational awareness
2) better reaction times
3) better line of sight
4) smoother inputs to the controls.

--
Ronnie

arturo3rd
10-31-2005, 03:17 PM
.

As for using skills honed on the track being used on the street:
1) situational awareness
2) better reaction times
3) better line of sight
4) smoother inputs to the controls.

--
Ronnie


whatever works for you but riding in traffic on the street is diffrent than riding in traffic on the track. i personally dont drive offensively on the street when surronded in traffic. most things that i learned taking the MSF is what i apply on the street and what i learned through classes on the track i apply there.

j14
11-01-2005, 12:24 AM
lol...I see the point of view, what I don't get is why track skills and street skills are intertwined. Good street skills don't mean good track skills and vice versa. Like some other riders have stated, there are some of us who only do a certain amount of trackdays a year and there are others that do it more often. I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, but for me, whatever money I have to spend to get to TWS and back (including money spent there) is not "moot". Money is money whether is $0.10 or $100.00. because I don't know about everyone else...but there is no money handed to me, which I assume everyone here has to work hard for their money. If money was "fixed" into everything then there would be no need to budget things out...whether those things are for monthly/trackday insinuated expenses.

CarbonJames
11-01-2005, 07:15 AM
as time passes you get older and wiser to all things. I remember being young and broke all the time, but as you get older money should be more abundant and you'll have learned to budget yourself. Therefore it will or should be easier to afford such a thing as a track day. Dont think that life will always be this way b/c for most of us it will only last a short time. That is if you are responsible enough to be able to handle your money in a mature way, with the exception of those who have money at there disposal all throughout life like some people, but those aforementioned lucky few may not be responsible like the others who have to earn money. So in the future you should be able to afford all the trackdays that you want to attend..

Moody
11-01-2005, 08:37 AM
Or, you will be getting old and broke like me because you like track to much.

j14
11-01-2005, 03:18 PM
why does everyone keep talking about..."being able to afford trackdays" and this and that...it's not a problem to go to track or the fact that some people go more often than most. My whole basis for argument was that it doesn't just cost $200 per trackday...it costs more. Like I said, if I had the time, I'd go more often because now that I have all my gear it costs less. But it is true that budgeting your finances will help you enjoy whatever you want to do :icon_thum

arturo3rd
11-01-2005, 03:47 PM
why does everyone keep talking about..."being able to afford trackdays" and this and that...it's not a problem to go to track or the fact that some people go more often than most. My whole basis for argument was that it doesn't just cost $200 per trackday...it costs more. Like I said, if I had the time, I'd go more often because now that I have all my gear it costs less. But it is true that budgeting your finances will help you enjoy whatever you want to do :icon_thum

what are you talking about? you always bum jack in the box money from me :gesture:

j14
11-01-2005, 03:49 PM
what are you talking about? you always bum jack in the box money from me :gesture:
lol...you wish fool, you're the one that needs a ride there everytime :laughing6

SBK Pilot
11-01-2005, 04:04 PM
double pwnage... lolz!... :laughing6

CarbonJames
11-01-2005, 04:20 PM
then why are we still talking about this? cant we just drop it and get back on topic...

Henry, you bringing the Video eqpt. with you Monday???? How much you charge to try and follow, ooooops. i mean try not to pass me on my R1 while taping a couple laps??

arturo3rd
11-01-2005, 04:26 PM
then why are we still talking about this? cant we just drop it and get back on topic...

Henry, you bringing the Video eqpt. with you Monday???? How much you charge to try and follow, ooooops. i mean try not to pass me on my R1 while taping a couple laps??

cuz you bumped it back up.

i called dibs on henry :icon_thum

j14
11-01-2005, 04:53 PM
cuz you bumped it back up.

i called dibs on henry :icon_thum

lol...that's for the 1k club only :keke:

CarbonJames
11-02-2005, 07:13 AM
lol...that's for the 1k club only :keke:


then you are out Arturo.. :eh:

j14
11-03-2005, 07:04 PM
awww...why do you have to be so mean?

Steve O Chap
11-03-2005, 07:10 PM
I'm screwed... I got the smallest and weakest bike here. :eh:

j14
11-03-2005, 08:10 PM
I'm screwed... I got the smallest and weakest bike here. :eh:

but you rock it and hang there w/ the big dogs!!! :notworthy

Moody
11-10-2005, 09:11 AM
I'm screwed... I got the smallest and weakest bike here. :eh:

Actually I think Brandon did this season and he turned a 1:51. :confused1

Steve O Chap
11-10-2005, 06:35 PM
Actually I think Brandon did this season and he turned a 1:51. :confused1

Brandon was on a 93hp SV, my F4i dyno'd with 91.2hp... and he has way more skills than me. So leave me alone. :icon_thum

j14
11-10-2005, 11:19 PM
Brandon was on a 93hp SV, my F4i dyno'd with 91.2hp... and he has way more skills than me. So leave me alone. :icon_thum
it's ok Steve, you can find confort in me....I'm the slowest one out there out of everyone here... :nod:

Moody
11-11-2005, 08:36 AM
Brandon was on a 93hp SV, my F4i dyno'd with 91.2hp... and he has way more skills than me. So leave me alone. :icon_thum
Don't feel bad Steve. I had 7 more horesepower then brandon and was almost 10 seconds slower. :laughing6

Steve O Chap
11-11-2005, 05:33 PM
Don't feel bad Steve. I had 7 more horesepower then brandon and was almost 10 seconds slower. :laughing6

After rereading my statement it sounded ingnorant at the end... wasn't meant to be. :icon_bigg

Yeah... Brandon owns us all. It's gonna be awesome to see him on the 636 next year. I'm willing to bet he breaks in the the sub 1:50s. :eek3:

FireMalt
11-11-2005, 06:53 PM
I'm willing to bet he breaks in the the sub 1:50s. :eek3:

Oh, I'm sure he will... I think I remember him borrowing Ronnie's bike for a session, and turning a 1:51 the first time out...

















That bastard! :BangHead:

Steve O Chap
11-11-2005, 07:40 PM
Oh, I'm sure he will... I think I remember him borrowing Ronnie's bike for a session, and turning a 1:51 the first time out...


:eek3: :eek3:

I think I need Brandons :help: