My turbo Harley update

[ScooterTrash]

ok, so all the doo-doo has arrived finally and the puzzle is starting to get assembled.

just a couple shots of the badness thats soon to come :eek3:


http://www.muddyjeep.com/images/IMG_2451.jpg

http://www.muddyjeep.com/images/IMG_2452.jpg

http://www.muddyjeep.com/images/IMG_245deleted

[mad]

how much did you pay for it?

[ScooterTrash]

how much did you pay for it?


pay for what? the turbo? garrett gt15 BB around 700+ range
the fabrication and install, I dunno yet. we are doing this to be duplicated for distribution to the masses.
I should have some kit pricing assembled soon. Looking at providing an affordable kit that is complete with everything to take the stock harley from approx. 70 hp to easily well over the century mark on low boost and pump gas.

This is being done at Autologic, I will be doing the tuning on the dyno.

[TxVrod]

Is that thing gonna be done by the time the Lone Star Rally rolls around? I'm gonna be down there and there ain't gonna be any other dudes on the pillion :biggrin:

[ScooterTrash]

I dont even know when the lone star rally is :-)
and now that all the crap is in, it is just a matter of getting it all welded up.
i have the check valve made for the maf sensor and I have the ball busting oil pump ordered. That should take care of the two woes we had to mull over and solve. Dyno time very soon. :biggthumpup:
I have so many people waiting on this kit already :-)
two sold on my street alone :biggrin:

[TxVrod]

Sept 29 - Oct 2 coupla weeks mang

[ScooterTrash]

Sept 29 - Oct 2 coupla weeks mang

jumpin' jehovas! Gotta get busy I reckon. wasnt planning on even going to it because I think crowds that size suck. Might do itt his year though just to see the freaks. :dontknow:

[Greenway Smokey]

I see you put forward controls on a roadster... You gonna keep it like after the trubo?

What else have you done to your engine besides the trubo?

[tbone16]

should start a turbo harley gang. "The boost hogs" or somthin. I realy cant wait to see and hear this. How much for the kits?

[roadrash05]

daaaang, that looks wicked man. :icon_thumright:

[ScooterTrash]

I see you put forward controls on a roadster... You gonna keep it like after the trubo?

What else have you done to your engine besides the trubo?

I was thinking of going back to mid controls and drag bars, but honestly, the apes kinda make me in a different mood and I might stay alive longer not making it a full tilt boogie. Am just looking for a few more ponies to make it fun, but not rag the motor either, so the gt 15 was chosen, low boost and pump gas should be craploads fun. I should be in full boost way low in the rpm scale and pull like mad to redline. Pretty excited and will take new photos on saturday when my son takes his srt there for a few dyno pulls.

[Greenway Smokey]

What kind of pipes are you useing? You should check out www.XLforum.net , you would blow those those guys away.

[ScooterTrash]

What kind of pipes are you useing? You should check out www.XLforum.net , you would blow those those guys away.



I know all those guys over there :-) I'm gonna blow em away when I have a dyno sheet to back up the doo :-)
Then with its mean looks and HP, it will sell itself.

[JoeRider]

Heh...it looks good. I think you should polish your snail before getting it all put together tho. When your done lets meet up for lunch...gotta hear it!! :notworthy:

[ScooterTrash]

Heh...it looks good. I think you should polish your snail before getting it all put together tho. When your done lets meet up for lunch...gotta hear it!! :notworthy:

well, this / my kit isnt going to be a bling kit. Its more of a test mule kit, so purty aint the objective. The kit for sale will indeed have stainless or carbon steel piping choices and also might buff a casing or two, I'll bet it would look great with the rockers buffed bright too.
I would love to do lunch,

[Patrick]

Looks good. What method of boost control are you using? Manual waste gate or digital? How much psi. are you running at full boost?


Patrick

[ScooterTrash]

Looks good. What method of boost control are you using? Manual waste gate or digital? How much psi. are you running at full boost?


Patrick

internally wastegated at 8 psi, can adjust higher, but dont really need it.

[ScooterTrash]

I ordered my wideband and digital readout today (awesome)
I ordered a cool boost gauge that turns into a mirror finish when the power is off. (pretty awesome)
I also ordered the turbo oil scavenge pump today (down right neato).....wooooooot :icon_thumright:

[ScooterTrash]

Dayum! just got my scavenge pump in today :tongue5: almost as big as a soda can :eek3: now I gotta find somewhere on the scoot to hide / hang it and plumb to it (saturday)

[Greenway Smokey]

Dayum! just got my scavenge pump in today* :tongue5: almost as big as a soda can :eek3: now I gotta find somewhere on the scoot to hide / hang it and plumb to it (saturday)


Can you take pictures of the process? I like to see stuff like that in durring the install.

[bandit]

All that $$$ and still will not be able to pass the Bandit :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

[ScooterTrash]

All that $$$ and still will not be able to pass the Bandit :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

as said before, its not about the most hp, its about getting a bunch more than you have at present and getting it served to you smoothly but strongly from low rpms to the rev limit. Never claimed to make it the fastest bike , that wasn't the goal.

[Dos Equis]

Man...We need more pictures.....!!!!!!

[3xv]

Draw through set-up? ;)

[ScooterTrash]

Draw through set-up? ;)
yes indeed :-)

[Solracer]

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/160736.jpg

[3xv]

Let us know once you have the bike set-up and fine-tuned. Looks great.:nod:

[Greenway Smokey]

That's not his bike.

[TxVrod]

Nope... Muddeaux's is black

[tbone16]

Not to mention that the other bike is a kickstart iron head, a far cry from what muddy is runnin.

[B.S. Motorsports]

need more pics, some dyno #s and to drive it but the first 2 will do...

[KiNG $h!T]

shit is badass.

[dotcom]

looking at that other thread..

thats like a giant frame slider for him

[hfa3g11]

thats cool

[B.S. Motorsports]

When are we going to get the full details

[Solracer]

hes having problems with logging on.....

[B.S. Motorsports]

Damnit i really wanna know whats up with the bike...

[PETE]

i wish i had a harley =(

[The Menace]

those harleys we saw tonight were pimp

[ScooterTrash]

When are we going to get the full details
ok, baaaack :-)
anyway, I went and picked up my bike today from Autologic.
They havent really done squat with it in the 2 minths they had it, thye got the turbo I ordered, the built the manifold for me and thats all.
So I have it at the house and I have a ton of things I bought for it to finish it up.

Photos coming soon, I have a lot of work to do.


crap still cost me $1200+ at autologic for their weak efforts.

[Greenway Smokey]

1200 bones! yikes, I thought you were doing this all yourself to save money.

[The Menace]

anyways i forgot to mention that, thats is pimp

[ScooterTrash]

1200 bones! yikes, I thought you were doing this all yourself to save money.
yep, bummed me out, over two months and very little done and then the manifold work was done in a hurry. I should have done it myself but oh well, live and learn. I am now :-) I'm grinding and rewelding and also have started on the exhaust flange for the 2.5" downpipe to blend to a 3" exhaust.
I still have to mount the turbo scavenge pump and lines and guages. I have to install the wideband and guage and also boost guage and lines. Yesterday, I ordered all the silicone connectors and spring tensioned T clamps and colored red to match the pinstriping on the tank and logo. Today I bought a wicked scroll saw and am also working on making a skull out of aluminum stock to tap and use as the wingnut for the filter element in the velocity stack I already made. I'll post new pictures when all the silicone and clamps come in, then I can mount the carb and charge pipe etc. Hopefully I'll have the exhaust completely finished by tomorrow afternoon. I plan on using the heat wrap on the manifold to the turbo, so hopefully I'll have it wrapped and clean also by photo time. Goodies supposed to be here saturday.
wooot fer me. :hello:

[mightymouse]

yep, bummed me out, over two months and very little done and then the manifold work was done in a hurry. I should have done it myself but oh well, live and learn. I am now :-) I'm grinding and rewelding and also have started on the exhaust flange for the 2.5" downpipe to blend to a 3" exhaust.
I still have to mount the turbo scavenge pump and lines and guages. I have to install the wideband and guage and also boost guage and lines. Yesterday, I ordered all the silicone connectors and spring tensioned T clamps and colored red to match the pinstriping on the tank and logo. Today I bought a wicked scroll saw and am also working on making a skull out of aluminum stock to tap and use as the wingnut for the filter element in the velocity stack I already made. I'll post new pictures when all the silicone and clamps come in, then I can mount the carb and charge pipe etc. Hopefully I'll have the exhaust completely finished by tomorrow afternoon. I plan on using the heat wrap on the manifold to the turbo, so hopefully I'll have it wrapped and clean also by photo time. Goodies supposed to be here saturday.
wooot fer me. :hello:

So your not going to have a wast gate or any thing like that?

[ScooterTrash]

So your not going to have a wast gate or any thing like that?
surely I do, its an internal waste gate design, turbo housing has it built in and the vac canister is set at 8# I think

[B.S. Motorsports]

cant wait till its finished man good luck...

[TxVrod]

ok, baaaack :-)
anyway, I went and picked up my bike today from Autologic.
They havent really done squat with it in the 2 minths they had it, thye got the turbo I ordered, the built the manifold for me and thats all.
So I have it at the house and I have a ton of things I bought for it to finish it up.

Photos coming soon, I have a lot of work to do.


crap still cost me $1200+ at autologic for their weak efforts.

Why does the name "RJ" come to mind?

[ScooterTrash]

Why does the name "RJ" come to mind?
Bwahahahahaa! I was saying the exact same thing to my buddy! They gotta be related :nod: :help:
:keke:

[B.S. Motorsports]

whats wrong w/ autologic...

[mightymouse]

surely I do, its an internal waste gate design, turbo housing has it built in and the vac canister is set at 8# I think

Ok cool.. I was thinking boy with out a wast gate he's going to make lots of boost....

[ScooterTrash]

whats wrong w/ autologic...
ok, heres the scoop.
I went to Autologic because they have a great reputation in the local custom turbo kit industry, if there is one. Basically because Jason aka St00pid has a good rep and has built a name for doing awesome work. I meet him up there, we had discussed previously on the phone what I wanted, we talk about it and the plans for duplicating the kit for resale, the whole 9 yards, he is involved in "yes I'm gonna do this and that etc etc".
End result, the bike sits there for 2.5 months, hardly anything done, in fact, the only thing done was order the turbo and the partial completion of the manifold that you see in the original shots. nothing else. I end up discovering that Jason doesnt have any interest in autologic, as in, he doesnt own it, he doesnt want to do fab work anymore, just tuning and the work that was done on my bike was done by a kid that works there. The manifold is workable indeed, but not anywhere near the quality I was expecting, especially when I get charged 400. for it and it was obvious it was done in a hurry because they knew I was coming to get my bike. How did they know I was coming you may ask? They knew that because after repeated phone calls to them, repeated "no answers" as in, never answer the phone or return calls I resorted to messages I left on their answering machine.

End result, I paid 1200 to get my bike stored for 2.5 months and it came back to me with a gt15 in a box. I'm gonna finish this critter soon though, am way anxious to hear it run and crap, I just wanna go riding!

I guess my Harley turbo project wasn't enough money for them to garner the attention it was promised when dropped off, live and learn I guess.
I am also working on another avenue of duplication of this kit once the bugs are worked out.

[ScooterTrash]

Ok cool.. I was thinking boy with out a wast gate he's going to make lots of boost....
my goofy assed brother does that to his diesel wrecker truck. He has the waste gate totally disconnected, tied shut.
I told him he was a goofy bastid and warned him of the impending doom, but he said "Heck fire, sure does make it go a lot better !" :eek3:

[B.S. Motorsports]

ya i know jason and auto logic thats why i am so suprised in this. Im sorry to here this man really i am i love this shit and cant wait to see the finished product good luck..

[ScooterTrash]

ya i know jason and auto logic thats why i am so suprised in this. Im sorry to here this man really i am i love this shit and cant wait to see the finished product good luck..
yep, they kinda let me down too :sad7:


but here are some more updates with the photos of the work I have done. wooot fer me.

Muddy's Turbo (http://www.muddyjeep.com/turbo_update.htm)

http://www.muddyjeep.com/images/MVC-013S.JPG

[Greenway Smokey]

Scooter, it looks! Kind of hangs way out ther a bit, but I guess that is the way to go with a turbo on a sportster.

You gonna have to go with the Mid controls now.

[ScooterTrash]

Scooter, it looks! Kind of hangs way out ther a bit, but I guess that is the way to go with a turbo on a sportster.

You gonna have to go with the Mid controls now.
nope on the mids, the forwards are fine indeed, plenty of room, it really doesnt hang out there any further than the factory carb and ham can did. The air cleaner can was in the way more than the turbo is now because it was further back where the knee would rest on it. All the piping is done with it tucked in and the exhaust pipe is made where it follows the frame line and tucks under and out of the way as well. It just looks nekked to me because it doesnt have that big assed chrome can and two chrome pipes on it now.
Its gonna be funny, if veiwing the bike from the left side, it is sedate and stock looking, ie: Dr. Jekyll. If veiwing from the right side, it looks all sinister and wicked, ie: Mr. Hyde. :laughing6 my bike is like a split personality :keke:

[Greenway Smokey]

when do you think you'll be ready to take it out to PP1 to show it off?

[B.S. Motorsports]

soon i hope

[DuBwEaR]

that thing looks mean! cant wait to see it out at PP1

[B.S. Motorsports]

werd!

[DuBwEaR]

werd!
.

[PETE]

:thumbsup:

[B.S. Motorsports]

quit whoring the great turbo thread.

[Los]

This thread rocks!!! :nod:

[KiNG $h!T]

im telling ya.

[Los]

we want an update!!

[B.S. Motorsports]

We already got the update we want to see this thing....

[KiNG $h!T]

werd

[Los]

waiting to see :hello:

[ScooterTrash]

ok, the carb is on, the exhaust is on, the wideband is partially installed. I only had a few hours yesterday to work on it, I have to leave back to work shortly. Hoping to start it next weekend since this weekend got screwed for me. Still waiting on my 44 mm clamp from autologic. sigh

http://www.muddyjeep.com/images/MVC-031S.JPG


still have tons to do yet.

[DOA]

Excellent work ST. You got guts taking on a project like that. I rode and loved my harley but had to push it home one time too many. Kudos on the clean install and hopefully you'll make a few $$$ from you hard work once you get it down to a science.

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[B.S. Motorsports]

Looking great man keep up the great work....

[Greenway Smokey]

It would have been awesome to have you ride out to the rally with us today.

Can't wait man!

[B.S. Motorsports]

So what is the expected time frame

[itsjustme]

I like it mang

[B.S. Motorsports]

2100 posts huray!!!!

but ya deff. good work

[tbone16]

Exhaust wrap rules.

[DuBwEaR]

when can we see that bad boy out at PP1?

[B.S. Motorsports]

Soon i hope.....

[ScooterTrash]

Soon i hope.....
me too :-)

[ScooterTrash]

She LIVES!
I started her a few minutes ago, man o man does she ever whistle like crazy!
Sounds freakin' awesome. Still have some odds and ends to finish but am close to riding soon. :icon_bigg :icon_bigg :icon_bigg :icon_bigg :icon_bigg
feel like a kid with a new toy :nod: :hello:

[Greenway Smokey]

AWESOME! Do you think we can see it this week some time?!

[itsjustme]

She LIVES!
I started her a few minutes ago, man o man does she ever whistle like crazy!
Sounds freakin' awesome. Still have some odds and ends to finish but am close to riding soon. :icon_bigg :icon_bigg :icon_bigg :icon_bigg :icon_bigg
feel like a kid with a new toy :nod: :hello:

congrats. Hopefully we will be able to see this beast at a local poser point soon.

[Solracer]

AWESOME! Do you think we can see it this week some time?!

Ill going over there tuesday to take some shots and some vid footage for a video ima make with his bike. :icon_thum

[B.S. Motorsports]

awsome man cant wait to see it in person....

[ScooterTrash]

ok, I have it running pretty nicely, at first it was boosting 12 - 15# and I couldnt go past 4 k rpms because I didnt wanna over boost and also didnt have the octane for 15#...anyways, I adjusted it down to 9 - 10# and it hauls major elephant bawls on premium . Wowzers! I'm stoked

[Greenway Smokey]

"hauls major elephant bawls"

huh, that's a nice image in my head now.

Didn't you run premium before the turbo?

[ScooterTrash]

"hauls major elephant bawls"

huh, that's a nice image in my head now.

Didn't you run premium before the turbo?
yes I ran premium, but when your boosting semi high levels (15# is a way high number on a stocker) you need octane to help with the detonation, and with premium and the temps of the motor at the time, there just wasnt enough to boost over 10# w/o the death detonate clatter.
I did get it adjusted and last night I did some pulls to the rev limiter and it went to 9 - 10# and was pulling to the rev limit so fast, I was at 100 mph in 3rd gear in a couple of blinks and still had two more gears left, and thats with the windsheild on :eek3: .
The boost comes on so smooth, prolly in the 3,500 rpm range your cresting 8# and climbing quick, need to start holding on a bit tighter at that point :icon_thum :hello:

[B.S. Motorsports]

thats bad ass fool

[ScooterTrash]

thats bad ass fool
yeppers, its definately fun, tonight I went riding with a buddy of mine that has a 1200 sporty, and his wife on her 883 L sporty and they were ahead of me staggered and when the light went green, they eased into it and then they were hauling a short burst, through second and through third and a bit of fourth. I didnt know how far they were going to take it so, I was way behind and I romped on it in second and started the boost pull, I flew by them as they were doing their third gear pull, him in front, like they were going backwards!
I was short shifting it too :-) and at the next stop, they both said that thing sounded like a freaking jet engine as I went by. They and I admittedly were amazed at how I tromped them. Again, we didnt wind em through the gears, just a short romp, but was fun to see real world results. :eek3:
crap, this boost stuff is fun :nod:

[B.S. Motorsports]

lol yes boost is very addicting

[ScooterTrash]

ok, here is a link to a short movie of it running.
I likes it lots :icon_bigg
http://www.msnusers.com/TexasHarleyRiders-/msgattachments/3355

[EFmang]

clip only allows members.

[ScooterTrash]

clip only allows members.
fixed now :-)
check it out and lemme know what ya think of my HD :icon_bigg
turn the sound up loud to get the full effect :eek3:
http://www.muddyjeep.com/mvc-703v.mpg

[itsjustme]

damn, that's awesome.

[B.S. Motorsports]

ssssssswwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaattttt

[rickykline]

holy crap i wanna see that man....

[ScooterTrash]

coolio 'eh?
damn sure is different

[ScooterTrash]

an early peek at the heat shield I am making, this is fresh from the cut, so the edges have to be cleaned and then spaced 1/4" off the pipe, its going to be painted high heat silver to match the engine case.
http://www.hi-upload.com/uploaded1/MVC-708S.JPG

[B.S. Motorsports]

So Sick dude with a capitol s....

[Greenway Smokey]

YES! That sounds cool! Where do you ride usually? Everytime I see a black 1200r i look for the turbo! haha

You ever going to come out to one of the meets and show it to everyone?

Have to posted this on XLforum.net yet?

[ScooterTrash]

YES! That sounds cool! Where do you ride usually? Everytime I see a black 1200r i look for the turbo! haha

You ever going to come out to one of the meets and show it to everyone?

Have to posted this on XLforum.net yet?
I cruise it around Friendswood, I go to Galveston and ride the seawall some. I ride it to the office on the Northside some, but Friendswood just goofing off.
I rebuilt the carb today, I didnt really have a problem with it, but i wanted a fresh gasket on the bottom bowl, and a kit was the only way to get it. So, I discovered that it runs much smoother and no more off idle stumbles and farts. I guess the accelerator pump diaphragm was wearing out at 12k+ miles and the fresh one makes it run peeeeeerfect!
I have it at 7# now and its all together a great riding and fun bike to ride, not only for the occasional twist of the grip, but just to watch people when they see it :-) crap loads funny.
CALL ME, lets ride today! 281-802-3577 I wanna goof off next to a stocker and see for a baseline comparison.

yes, its been posted on the XL, you didnt see it?
and where the heck are the meets at now a days?

[Greenway Smokey]

What is your name on XL?

[ScooterTrash]

What is your name on XL?
I think its TexasRoadster

[B.S. Motorsports]

i dont live too far away from friendswood right here in deerpark i would like to come visit you and see her in person if at all possible...

[itsjustme]

I live in Friendswood and I would like to see it too.

[B.S. Motorsports]

I live in Friendswood and I would like to see it too.

maybe i could meet up with you over there and lets go over if he says its ok of cource....

[itsjustme]

maybe i could meet up with you over there and lets go over if he says its ok of cource....

sounds good to me.

[B.S. Motorsports]

cool so what do you say scootertrash can we swing buy,

[ScooterTrash]

cool so what do you say scootertrash can we swing buy,you guys are welcome to swing on by. crap, I'm always looking for riding buddies.
281-802-3577


as Duke Nukem would say "Come get some"

he also said "Damn, I'm looking good!"

[KalmarJoe]

"It's time to kick ass, and chew bubblegum........ and I'm all out of bubblegum."

[ScooterTrash]

"It's time to kick ass, and chew bubblegum........ and I'm all out of bubblegum."
A true Nukem fan! :hello: :icon_bigg

[Greenway Smokey]

"i'll rip off you head and shit down your neck"

[Solracer]

"It's time to kick ass, and chew bubblegum........ and I'm all out of bubblegum."


Best opening line of a video game.....EVAR.


well, the one from Shadow Warrior.

[ScooterTrash]

"i'll rip off you head and shit down your neck"
I always got a kick when he would pass a mirror and stop and say, "damn, I'm looking good" :laughing6 :keke: