Senate passes gun bill in response to rampage

[pester]

untill now? :gesture:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071220/pl_nm/usa_guns_dc_2

[Gigolo Jason]

This keeps guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

I don't see a problem with it and neither does the NRA.

[trdvet]

untill now? :gesture:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071220/pl_nm/usa_guns_dc_2


"Together, we have crafted a bill that will prevent gun violence, but maintain the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens" to bear arms, said Democratic Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of New York, a chief sponsor of the bill.


Rigghhhttttt, mentally ill people are going to follow all rules of buying a gun?

[pester]

This keeps guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

I don't see a problem with it and neither does the NRA.

i dont have a problem either but, this was suposed to be done long ago dont you think?

[trdvet]

I wonder who they will ban next from having weapons?

[bumblebee]

Does this mean I have to give mine back?

[DvlRacer]

Ha, I actually had to change a couple of my cards on the roladex at work today that holds all the gun-buying laws :nod: Although, I could have sworn that one of the questions on the gun forms has referred to whether a person is mentally ill or not. If they answer yes then I, by law, cannot sell them a gun. Maybe I'm wrong, I never really read all the questions.

~Keith

[Dgig]

DVL U SELL GUNS ? were

[sbfuller]

it does ask that... i just bought one and had to say no to that question.

[pester]

it does ask that... i just bought one and had to say no to that question.

yes because if you answer yes" you have to be mentally ill :keke::keke:

[andre3k]

slippery slope here...

guess if he went on a rampage with a wooden spoon they would make a law for that too.

[cogs69]

DVL U SELL GUNS ? were

Tomball Pawn if I'm not mistaken

[Sassy Chassis]

Mmmmmmmmmm....so, a "mental health" record might contain what, exactly? Does it say that you took some Xanax or Prozac...because that could be like 90% of all Americans. Or are we talking about people who have been deemed legally insane by a court?

The 1968 Gun Control Act prohibits anyone found by a court to be "a mental defective" from possessing a gun. It also bars felons, fugitives, drug addicts and wife beaters.

"Mental defective" eh? That could be like 90% of MotoHouston...

[p0opstlnksal0t]

Just another leash around law abiding citizens necks. if you were mentally ill and wanted a gun, you will resort to criminal measures to get one. this law will do nothing im afraid.

[Sassy Chassis]

And nothing stops the crazy criminals from sending in their girlfriends to buy guns for them at the gunshows...

[gixxerbill]

Mmmmmmmmmm....so, a "mental health" record might contain what, exactly? Does it say that you took some Xanax or Prozac...because that could be like 90% of all Americans. Or are we talking about people who have been deemed legally insane by a court?



"Mental defective" eh? That could be like 90% of MotoHouston...

This is what I want to know. I think alot of americans have gone through depression or two in their lives do they consider that as mental illness?

[p0opstlnksal0t]

all these were in this bill:


Permanently prohibits the FBI from charging a "user fee" for NICS checks.

Requires all federal agencies that impose mental health adjudications or commitments to provide a process for "relief from disabilities." Extreme anti-gun groups like the Violence Policy Center and Coalition to Stop Gun Violence have expressed "strong concerns" over this aspect of the bill-surely a sign that it represents progress for gun ownership rights.

Prevents reporting of mental adjudications or commitments by federal agencies when those adjudications or commitments have been removed.

Requires removal of expired, incorrect or otherwise irrelevant records. Today, totally innocent people (e.g., individuals with arrest records, who were never convicted of the crime charged) are sometimes subject to delayed or denied firearm purchases because of incomplete records in the system.

Provides a process of error correction if a person is inappropriately committed or declared incompetent by a federal agency. The individual would have an opportunity to correct the error-either through the agency or in court.

Prevents use of federal "adjudications" that consist only of medical diagnoses without findings that the people involved are dangerous or mentally incompetent. This would ensure that purely medical records are never used in NICS. Gun ownership rights would only be lost as a result of a finding that the person is a danger to themselves or others, or lacks the capacity to manage his own affairs.

Improves the accuracy and completeness of NICS by requiring federal agencies and participating states to provide relevant records to the FBI. For instance, it would give states an incentive to report those who were adjudicated by a court to be "mentally defective," a danger to themselves, a danger to others or suicidal.

Requires a Government Accountability Office audit of past NICS improvement spending.
The bill includes significant changes from the version that previously passed the House, including:


Requires incorrect or outdated records to be purged from the system within 30 days after the Attorney General learns of the need for correction.

Requires agencies to create "relief from disabilities" programs within 120 days, to prevent bureaucratic foot-dragging.

Provides that if a person applies for relief from disabilities and the agency fails to act on the application within a year-for any reason, including lack of funds-the applicant can seek immediate review of his application in federal court.

Allows awards of attorney's fees to applicants who successfully challenge a federal agency's denial of relief in court.

Requires that federal agencies notify all people being subjected to a mental health "adjudication" or commitment process about the consequences to their firearm ownership rights, and the availability of future relief.

Earmarks 3-10% of federal implementation grants for use in operating state "relief from disabilities" programs.

Elimination of all references to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives regulations defining adjudications, commitments, or determinations related to Americans' mental health. Instead, the bill uses terms previously adopted by the Congress.