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MAXPAIN
12-08-2007, 11:53 AM
anywhere good to go watch hatten beat the hell out of mayweather? and then catch the rest of ufc
mekrew
12-08-2007, 11:54 AM
well if your going to watch hatton beat mw , you might as well stay home cause its not happening
let the drama begin LOL
MAXPAIN
12-08-2007, 11:58 AM
mayweather is a great boxer to bad he doesn't know how to brawl
mekrew
12-08-2007, 12:01 PM
too fast and technical for hatton ... game over
NoFear
12-08-2007, 12:03 PM
:hello:
http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42126&highlight=boxing+saturday
juan diablo
12-08-2007, 12:53 PM
too fast and technical for hatton ... game over
you sure right He showed everybody how quick he was to run away from De la Hoya:gesture::gesture:
D_1STUNNA
12-08-2007, 01:12 PM
too fast and technical for hatton ... game over
^ THIS IS TRUE!!
juan diablo
12-08-2007, 01:15 PM
hatton dont have as much experience but he got power
D_1STUNNA
12-08-2007, 01:18 PM
hatton dont have as much experience but he got power
OFFENSE WINS GAMES DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!! EXPERIENCE TAKES POWER ANYDAY!
juan diablo
12-08-2007, 01:19 PM
i got 20 bucks on hatton
D_1STUNNA
12-08-2007, 01:21 PM
i got 20 bucks on hatton
WISH I COULD TAKE YOU UP ON THAT BUT WITH A LIL ONE ON THE WAY THAT WILL BE HERE IN LESS THAN A WEEK I NEED ALL I GOT...
juan diablo
12-08-2007, 01:23 PM
congrats
D_1STUNNA
12-08-2007, 01:25 PM
congrats
PRECIATE THAT!!:thumb:
mekrew
12-08-2007, 01:32 PM
d where u watching it at
D_1STUNNA
12-08-2007, 01:35 PM
d where u watching it at
NOT SURE I WAS GONNA ASK ALL OF HPD WHERE IT WAS GONNA BE POPPIN AT?....WHAT YOU TALKIN BOUT?
mekrew
12-08-2007, 01:38 PM
dunno juice said he is going to find out
D_1STUNNA
12-08-2007, 01:42 PM
dunno juice said he is going to find out
WORD!....LET ME KNOW SOMETHING
90 5.0
12-08-2007, 03:19 PM
you sure right He showed everybody how quick he was to run away from De la Hoya:gesture::gesture:
The judges should be shot for that fight...
Watching it at the house and then the UFC,
with all the fights this month my cable bill is going to be through the roof lol
Corona Busa
12-08-2007, 07:12 PM
2204 Louisiana in Midtown! They are having a $5.00 cover charge!
Anybody know of any other place showing it?
mekrew
12-08-2007, 11:52 PM
anywhere good to go watch hatten beat the hell out of mayweather? and then catch the rest of ufc
you sure right He showed everybody how quick he was to run away from De la Hoya:gesture::gesture:
i got 20 bucks on hatton
i take cash , or visa no checks :rofl:
what were u saying now :rofl::rofl:
BrutusTx
12-09-2007, 12:04 AM
Damn Damn DAMN!!!!!!!!
magzx12r
12-09-2007, 12:16 AM
Damn Damn DAMN!!!!!!!!
Good Times fan?
D_1STUNNA
12-09-2007, 09:48 AM
i got 20 bucks on hatton
GUESS I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN YOU UP ON THAT!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
NoFear
12-09-2007, 10:13 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/12/09/mayweather.wins.ap/index.html
LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. didn't need to dance to beat Ricky Hatton. His fists proved a lot more potent than his feet.
Mayweather remained unbeaten Saturday night and retained his claim to being the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world by stopping Hatton in the 10th round of a brawl that featured none of the fancy footwork the American has shown in the ring and on reality TV.
Hatton wouldn't let Mayweather move, but it didn't matter as Mayweather used precision punches to wear down the challenger for his 147-round crown. Hatton kept trying to get inside and score points, but Mayweather had an answer for everything he did.
The end came after Mayweather landed a crushing left hook that dropped Hatton on his back in Mayweather's corner. Hatton got up at the count of eight, but Mayweather almost immediately got him on the ropes and landed another flurry of punches to the head.
Hatton went down almost on a delayed reaction, while at the same time referee Joe Cortez moved in to stop the fight and Hatton's corner threw in the towel at 1:35 of the round.
It was the first loss for Hatton, a brawler from Manchester, England, who did his best to do what no other fighter had ever done and break down Mayweather's defenses. It was clear from the early rounds, though, that Hatton would have trouble doing that. Mayweather, fighting for the first time since beating Oscar De La Hoya in May, was able to pile up points and seemed to be cruising for an easy decision win when he shot out the left hook that was the beginning of the end for Hatton.
"I knew it was going to be tough," Mayweather said. "That's why I didn't do anything halfway. He was definitely the toughest competitor I've ever faced."
Mayweather (39-0) was ahead 89-81 on two ringside scorecards and 88-82 when he scored the thundering punches that both stopped Hatton and answered critics who said he was a boring fighter who fought defensively and rarely took any chances when it counted.
It was Mayweather's hometown, but Hatton's crowd at the MGM Grand hotel arena. A brass band played in the upper deck, among thousands of British fans who packed the arena and needed little urging to stand up with beers in hand to sing "There's only one Ricky Hatton" to the tune of Winter Wonderland.
David Beckham sat ringside in the arena just down the street from where his wife was performing at the Mandalay Bay on the Spice Girls reunion tour. Those unlucky enough to not get tickets going for thousands of dollars watched it on closed circuit at several Strip hotels, while back home some 350,000 British homes were expected to spend about $30 for a pay-per-view broadcast that began about 5 a.m. in London.
Mayweather countered with a little star power himself. He was joined by fellow Dancing With the Stars competitors Mark Cuban, Wayne Newton and Helio Castroneves on his walk to the ring, an appearance that was roundly booed by most of the crowd, which also nearly drowned out with boos and whistles the pre-fight national anthem by Tyrese Gibson.
Unfortunately for Hatton, their vocal support wasn't much help in the ring. There, Mayweather held all the advantages, and he gave Hatton a beating from the eighth round on when he caught him with a huge right hand and followed it with a series of head punches.
"I wanted to punch with power," Mayweather said. "A couple of fights ago I gave my fans a dud, so I wanted to come back and give my fans a great fight."
Hatton was on his back in the neutral corner for about 15 seconds after being knocked out, but got up and even took a microphone to thank his fans for coming.
"I felt really big and really strong, but I left myself open," Hatton said. "He's better inside than what I thought with all the elbows, shoulders and forearms he used."
Hatton was cut over his right eye in the third round and though the cut didn't bleed much he said it affected him mentally and that he wasn't the same after that.
"I thought I was doing well in the fight until then," Hatton said. "I don't think he was the hardest puncher tonight, but he was more clever than I expected."
Mayweather's dominance was shown by ringside punching statistics that showed he landed 129 of 329 punches to 63 of 372 for Hatton. Even more telling was that Mayweather outlanded Hatton 78 to 26 over last five rounds, including a 32-6 margin in the eighth round.
Hatton was undefeated, just like Mayweather, but he had not fought the same caliber of fighters and many questioned how he would be able to get inside the vaunted defenses of a 30-year-old who has spent his entire life learning the fine art of boxing. Oddsmakers made him a decided underdog, though by fight time there was enough money on Hatton to bring Mayweather down to a 2-1 favorite.
The fight was lucrative for both. Mayweather was guaranteed $11 million plus a slice of any pay-per-view profits, while Hatton had a $6 million guarantee.
Hatton (43-1) was also moving up in weight, fighting at 147 pounds for only the second time, and fighting an opponent who was taller and had a reach advantage over him. If that wasn't enough, Mayweather was universally regarded as both the best defensive fighter in the world and the best pound-for-pound fighter.
Hatton's only real chance before the 16,700 who sang his praises from the opening bell, was to turn the fight into a nonstop brawl, and he did his best to do just that. He was always on the attack, trying to bully Mayweather into corners and against the ropes where he would have a better chance landing inside punches.
The fight was fought through a succession of clinches and emotions wore raw as the rounds added up. In the sixth round, Hatton threw Mayweather against the ropes and pushed his head between the second and third ropes, prompting Cortez to take a point away from the challenger.
Before the action resumed, Hatton showed his disgust by turning his back to Mayweather and sticking out his rear end.
Earlier, Cortez stopped the fight twice to lecture both boxers about using headlocks, elbows and punches behind the head in a mostly futile effort to turn the fight into some kind of a boxing contest.
Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
MAXPAIN
12-10-2007, 10:09 AM
when i'm wrong i'm wrong. i really hated to see hatten eat canvas in the tenth. but hell at least we got to see mayweather challenged. over all perrty decent fight. good thing i didn't on it
CaJuNsOuLjA
12-10-2007, 10:25 AM
Yeeeeaaahhhhh buddy...:nod: haha, I feel vindicated haha :rofl:
haha...yeah good chit, enjoy the fight. Mayweather by decision or late stoppage
Hatton was undefeated, just like Mayweather, but he had not fought the same caliber of fighters and many questioned how he would be able to get inside the vaunted defenses of a 30-year-old who has spent his entire life learning the fine art of boxing.
I think it's possible but not likely. Hatton's definitely got a fighters chance but I think Mayweather recognizes the importance of this fight and is very keen on the type of legacy he wants to leave...I don't think Hatton has fought any top tier competition, particular of the class of a Mayweather (Tszyu doesn't count because that was a rather questionable thing there) and Mayweather had weathered a few storms, I think he'll win.
Fuzzy018
12-10-2007, 10:26 AM
In the end it was probably a good thing Hatton got knocked down.
He was getting completely hosed on the score cards.:angry7::angry7::angry7:
What fight were those F**kin judges watchin:angry7::banghead:
CaJuNsOuLjA
12-10-2007, 10:29 AM
There's Only One Floyd Mayweather
Ricky Hatton is great for boxing and has an amazing set of fans. But in dispatching of 'The Hitman' in ten rounds this past Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Floyd Mayweather showed he is a great boxer who can amaze fans with his sublime skill set.
Hatton tried his damnedest to rough up and maul Mayweather with his all-out aggression, but it wasn't nearly enough to offset the talent and craft of Mayweather, who was on target with his counter right hands throughout the evening. Finally in the tenth round, after Mayweather had softened Hatton up with an array of sizzling combinations, a left hook would send Hatton crashing to the canvas. As he got up, he would then be hit with a barrage of shots that gave referee Joe Cortez no choice but to call a halt to the action 35 seconds into round ten.
Hatton did have the support of a raucous crowd, and even when it was clear that he was up against a superior fighter, they still chanted away into the Las Vegas night and attempted to coax their man to victory. But while he had the support of the overflow throng, he simply did not have the skills.
"I was doing all right until I slipped," Hatton would joke of the trip to the canvas that quickly hastened his ultimate downfall. Even in defeat, Hatton was as gracious as ever, adding "It was a pleasure sharing the ring with Floyd. He's proved that he's the pound-for-pound king."
It wasn't so much that Mayweather beat Hatton - that was expected - but it was the manner in which he closed the show. Unlike some of his more recent performances, he put an exclamation point at the end of his two-fisted sentence. No matter what the native of Manchester attempted, Mayweather had more than enough answers.
"I knew I had to be versatile in the ring tonight; this guy is a rough and tough fighter," he would say at the post-fight press conference. The truth is, Hatton wasn't particularly effective when he closed the distance. He constantly smothered himself inside and his punches lacked accuracy. He expended a lot of energy trying to puncture Mayweather's air-tight defense, and his efforts had the partisans on their feet throughout. But again, to quote one of my favorite John Wooden-ism's, "Don't mistake activity for achievement." For all his efforts, Hatton never seemed to connect cleanly on Mayweather. And as Mayweather started to let his hands go in the middle rounds, the disparity between the two boxers became more and more evident.
Perhaps because he was facing a blown-up junior welterweight (as it's clear by this fight and his outing against Luis Collazo that Hatton isn't that effective at 147 pounds) that Mayweather was more willing to exchange and put his punches together. But you wish that this version of Mayweather would show up more often.
So what's next? This time around there were no teary-eyed retirement speeches, but he did tell the media, "As of right now, I'm really bored with boxing. But if the money's right, anything can happen."
Hey, that's why he dubbed himself 'Money' Mayweather.
FIRM BUT NOT FAIR
Whatever window of opportunity that Hatton had to make this fight competitive was slammed shut early by the over-officiousness of one Joe Cortez, who was seemingly in a rush to break the two fighters up as soon as they clashed on the inside. At times he seemed to be tackling Hatton as he was in the process of rushing inside.
His performance was such that the largely British crowd would start chanting," THE REFEREE'S A WANKER, THE REFEREE'S A WANKER!!!"
At times it seemed that it was two-on-one in the ring - and Mayweather really didn't need the help all that much. One noted trainer would say to me on Sunday afternoon, "Cortez went in there with an agenda." He would also say, "Trust me, that was a purpose pitch."
And while he was quick to chastise Hatton for all his indiscretions, he constantly allowed Mayweather the use of his forearms and elbows.
I'd have to say this may have been the worst big fight performance from a referee I've seen since Eddie Cotton in Lewis-Tyson.
CREATING A MONSTER
On Saturday afternoon, at Wolfgang Puck's inside the MGM Grand, Top Rank would throw a media luncheon that featured welterweight titlist Miguel Cotto. It was also another opportunity for Bob Arum to continue his assault on his former protégé, Mayweather.
It wasn't that long ago that he would tell anyone and everyone that this guy was better than Sugar Ray Leonard. As writers gathered around him on Saturday, he held court on why he's so overrated and lectured writers who had him atop their pound-for-pound rankings.
Arum believes that Mayweather has cherry picked his way to millions and won’t fight anyone threatening.
"Forget my man Cotto," he would tell me, "Floyd Mayweather will not fight anybody who has a chance to beat him. You can laugh about it but it's true, it's true. Floyd Mayweather is so insecure that he doesn't want to risk losing the zero. That's what it's about. Is he afraid? Is he a coward? Is he afraid to get hurt? No, I don't believe that."
But perhaps like a Roy Jones, he has adapted his mentality to suit the current climate of the business.
"I think that's Mayweather's insecurity has been fostered by HBO's contracts, which provide that they can terminate a guy who loses. But that's not what's motivating him now," railed the veteran promoter, who was also celebrating his birthday this past weekend.
But, if you think about it, didn't Arum kinda create this monster he so despises now?
"Well, y'know, we knew what he was," said Dr. Bob Arumstein. But now that he's no longer promoting him, he is very candid about Mayweather's persona. "He's a very mean-spirited kid, not a nice person and he can fool some people but he doesn't fool me and a lot of what he does and says is ugly."
There seemed to be an agenda on the latest 24/7 to humanize and soften Mayweather's image (Hey, he loves his mom!!! How 'bout that!!!), and it's clear that HBO wants to make him the face of boxing.
"I don't know whether it's conscious or unconscious, I just don't think that they're helping the sport by countenancing this kind of behavior," Arum would state. "I mean, go to Youtube and see this rant and see if you want this guy to be representing your sport."
I'm guessing he's no longer comparing him to Leonard.
PPV FRANCHISE
With the latest Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. pay-per-view show doing much better than expected - around 70,000 buys - it's clear that Top Rank believes that they can go to the well often with this kid. Arum says that their next Chavez pay-per-view will take place on February 9th in Leon, Mexico. Jose Celaya has been mentioned as an opponent.
And because of this development, don't expect Arum to go through with a bout against Alfonso Gomez. Not only does he not have to haggle with HBO over license fees, but he can make consistent money with his 'Latin Fury' series while taking on fighters who don't pose the threat that Gomez would at this point.
Arum says he plans to have the bout between Martin Castillo and Jorge Arce on that card, along with Giovanni Segura. But don't be stunned if Castillo's manager, Frank Espinoza, balks at fighting a Fernando Beltran fighter in Mexico on a show that he's essentially co-promoting.
CLASSLESS
I thought the Brits were great; they provided an energy and atmosphere that doesn't come around often. But I also thought they showed a lack of class by booing the American national anthem. And it wasn't that they booed our anthem; you should show respect to all anthems in that setting.
And I was utterly dismayed that they lustily booed Mario Lopez as they showed him on the big screens before the main event. Yeah, I know the English were partial to 'Screech', but c'mon, no love for 'AC Slater'?
FINAL FLURRIES
I hear that Mike Alvarado will be facing WBO junior welterweight titlist Ricardo Torres on the Pavlik-Taylor undercard on February 16th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. What happened to Victor Ortiz? Well, there seems to be some turmoil with him behind the scenes they need to work out....Word is that WBO junior bantamweight titlist Fernando Montiel will be on that show, defending against Jose Navarro. Good news is that Lou DiBella will finally be at a title fight involving Navarro. But I'd much rather have seen Castillo-Arce on this show. Well, so would've Castillo and Espinoza if you think about it....Prospects Danny Garcia and Daniel Jacobs looked very good on Saturday. Garcia, a junior welterweight who inked with manager Shelly Finkel, would stop Jesus Villareal in two. Garcia, who improved to 2-0 (2 KOs), has a strong left hook and has a fan-friendly style. Jacobs needed just 29 seconds to get rid of Jose Hurtado in his pro debut. Jacobs landed a left hook right on the button and he certainly looks like he has a lot of tools....Does Daniel Ponce de Leon define 'winning ugly'?
CaJuNsOuLjA
12-10-2007, 10:30 AM
In the end it was probably a good thing Hatton got knocked down.
He was getting completely hosed on the score cards.:angry7::angry7::angry7:
What fight were those F**kin judges watchin:angry7::banghead:
Lmao, there was a question of how flush/cleanly Hatton's punches were landing...
...CompuBox stats were corroborating what the judges were seeing lol...
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