Balance Point

[st3ph3n]

I hit the balance point ONCE yesterday but could never get it again.* lolz.* Crazy feeling.* Felt like I was floating and keeping a steady speed wheelie.* Slowly but surely learning how to do standups.* :biggthumpup:

I'm still under the "basic" stunts category from the thread that Din posted.* :hs:

[KiNG $h!T]

werd congrats i havent been able to find the bp long eouhg to actually get to feel it on a stand up.

[BykeBoyWannabe]

Are you powering or clutching? I don't really wanna clutch cause I don't want the extra wear and tear but I'm gonna have to start clutchin' sometime...

Anyhow, powering it up to a balance point area is kinda scary cause it comes up kind of quick... But I've gotten it almost there... Its really scary...

And I can't get my 2nd gear standups to come up... I pre-load, puul, and twist and kind of lean back on the pegs... It comes up a little, but doesn't keep coming up... Any tips?

[st3ph3n]

Are you powering or clutching?* I don't really wanna clutch cause I don't want the extra wear and tear but I'm gonna have to start clutchin' sometime...

Anyhow, powering it up to a balance point area is kinda scary cause it comes up kind of quick... But I've gotten it almost there... Its really scary...

And I can't get my 2nd gear standups to come up... I pre-load, puul, and twist and kind of lean back on the pegs... It comes up a little, but doesn't keep coming up... Any tips?


I'm doing 2nd and 3rd gear clutch ups. I put my left foot on my rear peg and cover the brake with my right. In second, I got about 30-40 mph and blip the clutch and give it gas and it comes right up. It's all in your throttle control. Don't give it too much or you will loop it. Once you figure it out, it's actually pretty easy to get it up. Riding it out just takes practice.

[dotcom]

damn...

should i even attempt to try to wheelie with my bike.. after all the money i spent on it...but i want to sooooooo bad to learn...

oh stephen.. thats FAWKIN OSOME!!!!

[st3ph3n]

damn...

should i even attempt to try to wheelie with my bike.. after all the money i spent on it...but i want to sooooooo bad to learn...

oh stephen.. thats FAWKIN OSOME!!!!



Just take baby steps. Once I actually figured out how to use the clutch to do it, it all came together from there. Just wear gear and be careful and don't get throttle happy. :icon_smile:

[Capafool]

Ive never actually wheelied with my foot on the rear brake. I actually put my right knee on my seat and keep my left foot on the peg. Different things work for different people... This works for me and makes me be Extra careful cuz I obviously only have my throttle to keep me from looping.

I remember the first time I hit my balance point I had never ridden a wheelie that long and I was just like WHOA :eek3:.. felt like I was up forever. I got a little excited and decided to set it down before I tried something more stupid. lol :keke:

[SBK Pilot]

Are you powering or clutching?* I don't really wanna clutch cause I don't want the extra wear and tear but I'm gonna have to start clutchin' sometime...

Anyhow, powering it up to a balance point area is kinda scary cause it comes up kind of quick... But I've gotten it almost there... Its really scary...

And I can't get my 2nd gear standups to come up... I pre-load, puul, and twist and kind of lean back on the pegs... It comes up a little, but doesn't keep coming up... Any tips?


hey bbw... not tryin to hate or anything man... just be careful dude... keep loggin in the miles on two wheels too mkay (not just up on one)... :icon_thumright:

you got gear, yeah?...* :confused1:

[Prodigy]

This is why you should wear your gear people!!!

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[bigcomfy]

ya think. Damn dog hope you feelin ok.

Now I'm thinking that full armor might be a good idea

Just got done doin rather excessive speeds in a jacket, jeans and a helmet.

thanks for making me think tweece I mean twice.

For real

BC :eh:

[Stone_618]

Are you powering or clutching? I don't really wanna clutch cause I don't want the extra wear and tear but I'm gonna have to start clutchin' sometime...

Anyhow, powering it up to a balance point area is kinda scary cause it comes up kind of quick... But I've gotten it almost there... Its really scary...

And I can't get my 2nd gear standups to come up... I pre-load, puul, and twist and kind of lean back on the pegs... It comes up a little, but doesn't keep coming up... Any tips?


I'm doing 2nd and 3rd gear clutch ups. I put my left foot on my rear peg and cover the brake with my right. In second, I got about 30-40 mph and blip the clutch and give it gas and it comes right up. It's all in your throttle control. Don't give it too much or you will loop it. Once you figure it out, it's actually pretty easy to get it up. Riding it out just takes practice.


i can't remember where, but i think porshito posted a gerat article about how to wheelie where it said that standups are easier to learn than sit downs. Somebody else said it has to do with each person's preferences. I have to agree with that also, becuase i have tried wheelies all different ways and they all were totally different. But i acually like the most and felt the mot comfortable when i did just like the article said. Right foot covering brake left fooot on back peg and clutchin it up. It feels really good and easy to come up. And i think i have a better idea of where the bike it because im up a little higher than the bike. Its been a while, i prob. practice this weekend at the usual spot.

[PORSCHITO]

hope u feel better man...

st3ph3n the article is under how to wheelie in the stunta lounge lol....

[KiNG $h!T]

Are you powering or clutching?* I don't really wanna clutch cause I don't want the extra wear and tear but I'm gonna have to start clutchin' sometime...

Anyhow, powering it up to a balance point area is kinda scary cause it comes up kind of quick... But I've gotten it almost there... Its really scary...

And I can't get my 2nd gear standups to come up... I pre-load, puul, and twist and kind of lean back on the pegs... It comes up a little, but doesn't keep coming up... Any tips?


dont power. clutch it.....

[st3ph3n]

hope u feel better man...

st3ph3n the article is under how to wheelie in the stunta lounge lol....



I don't care.* This thread was about balance point.* Something you'll never get to.

[PORSCHITO]

hope u feel better man...

st3ph3n the article is under how to wheelie in the stunta lounge lol....



I don't care.* This thread was about balance point.* Something you'll never get to.


hope u feel better was for prodigy....
bitch i was trying to help u out to find the post... and trust me i have other stuff in life to focus on beside the balance point!!! now ur about to cross the balance point in my brain dipshit in that case u will loose ur balance for a good while.

[TooBuku]

BP is a good feeling. I'm usually in and out of the BP. One thing you can do to find it or help you get to it is lean back while you wheelie. More wieght in the back cause the balance point to be lower.

[r6racer187]

DAMNIT JOE, u loopin em out again. been there done that, i feel for ya dog. i think everyone should do like i did and just loop it back and then u will truely find ur balance point young skywalker. :pottytrain4:

[TooBuku]

DAMNIT JOE, u loopin em out again. been there done that, i feel for ya dog. i think everyone should do like i did and just loop it back and then u will truely find ur balance point young skywalker. :pottytrain4:


I've looped before and i don't think that help me at all.... Usually wreck set you back and my most definitly did.

[BykeBoyWannabe]

I guess I haven't reached BP yet... I don't really understand it... All I know is that its the point in your wheelie where it will stay and ride for a while... I guess..

Someone wanna explain to a noob? :notworthy: :dontknow:

And I learned how to clutch'em up... I can't ride them out very far at all yet, but I learned clutching... :icon_thumright:

[Din]

i forgot how to do wheelies.

[r6racer187]

PROPS ON LEARNING TO CLUTCH WHEELIES!!!* :hello2: now learnig balance point is scary, but fun. try puting our left foot on the back peg and right on the front peg, now stand up and clutch that biatch. that way is more controled and it is easier to feel ur balance point because it lowers th bp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :icon_thumright: keep up the good work. one day u will lose the* :newbie: title. i have much faith in u young skywalker.

[BykeBoyWannabe]

PROPS ON LEARNING TO CLUTCH WHEELIES!!!* :hello2: now learnig balance point is scary, but fun. try puting our left foot on the back peg and right on the front peg, now stand up and clutch that biatch. that way is more controled and it is easier to feel ur balance point because it lowers th bp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :icon_thumright: keep up the good work. one day u will lose the* :newbie: title. i have much faith in u young skywalker.


Haha... Thanks... By the way my last name is Walker, haha... Anyhow... How high is balance point on a normal stand up, both feet in the normal pegs? Like, 50, 60, 70 degrees? Just askin' for a generality...

[TooBuku]

Imagine a clock. Balance point is about 11 o'clock.

[PORSCHITO]

if ur clock hits the 1:00 am, it will be too late :tard:

[Din]

if ur clock hits the 1:00 am, it will be too late :tard:


12:05 u might be able to bring it back in, 12:15 might be time go to go bed.

[PORSCHITO]

if ur clock hits the 1:00 am, it will be too late :tard:


12:05 u might be able to bring it back in, 12:15 might be time go to go bed.


a bed whith women dressed up in white taking care of u ...

[Din]

^ better hope shes not big

[st3ph3n]

^ better hope shes not big


:keke:

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[KiNG $h!T]

:laughing6: :laughing6: LOL I really need to get back out on the bike and try some staggards.

[st3ph3n]

:laughing6: :laughing6: LOL I really need to get back out on the bike and try some staggards.



I was out practicing earlier and what do you know, it starting pooring down raining. I got SOAKED! That sucked. lol

[Din]

:laughing6: :laughing6: LOL I really need to get back out on the bike and try some staggards.



I was out practicing earlier and what do you know, it starting pooring down raining.* I got SOAKED!* That sucked.* lol


how u commin along? i think i should get back to praticing u prob out pro me now.

[st3ph3n]

how u commin along? i think i should get back to praticing u prob out pro me now.


been really busy lately so havent got to do a whole lot of practicing. I can get it up pretty high but just can't keep it up as long as I would like. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. When the weather clears up, I'm going to do some more practicing. :biggthumpup:

[Din]

cool.

im into stoppies now.

[st3ph3n]

cool.

im into stoppies now.


I won't even try that. Afraid to fly over the bars. :icon_smile:

[KiNG $h!T]

yea i have been real busy this past week and havent got any riding in :crying: I need to go practice.

[r6racer187]

IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE BIKE HONDA AND SUZUKI BP IS ABOUT 11 O CLOCK KAW IS ABOUT 11:15 YAMAHA IS THE HIGHEST AT ABOUT 11:30-

[KiNG $h!T]

hey r6racer can you hook it up on some tires? :dontknow: I need a set :biggthumpup:

[RideToDie]

not to good at either wheelie or stoppie, my first wheelie ended in a crash and slowed me down a lot but getting back into the feel of things and getting better slowly, still need to find that damned BP. I hate being a newbie. Stoppie's freak the hell out of me. I have been able to do it a couple of times, just need to learn break control. And need to get use to the feel of it. Plus the fact that my rear tire is now showing threads does not help much. Anyone able to hook a bro up on a good set of tires at a good price. :yeahno:

[r6racer187]

yeah i can hook up tires. what brand and what size.

[RideToDie]

yeah i can hook up tires. what brand and what size.


right now i have stock wheels on '03 R6
front 120/60-ZR17
rear 180/55-ZR17
Not to sure :dontknow: on what brand I want, but looking for something good that I can race and practice stunting. Even looking at maybe a different size. Need ideas if anyone has some. :biggthumpup:

[RideToDie]

I got out and rode around tonight, tryed to wheelie but every time I get my bike up to what feels like balance point I get freaked the* :leghump: out.* trying to raise up fells crazy, almost feels like I want to flip the bike.*

How long did it take most of yall to get beyond that :puke: feeling?

[st3ph3n]

I got out and rode around tonight, tryed to wheelie but every time I get my bike up to what feels like balance point I get freaked the* :leghump: out.* trying to raise up fells crazy, almost feels like I want to flip the bike.*

How long did it take most of yall to get beyond that :puke: feeling?



That wasn't the balance point.

[BykeBoyWannabe]

No... Thats right before balance point... Balance point is still beyond that... I get the same feeling... On some wheelies I just ditch them by mashing the clutch letting go of the throttle and throwing my legs down... But make sure not to rack yourself... Thats the part that sucks. :rolleyes:

[TooBuku]

Half of the battle of learning to wheelie is in your head.

[RideToDie]

Half of the battle of learning to wheelie is in your head.


I hate playing mind games. Atleast when someone is doing them to me I have something to fight :boxing: or argue with :argue:, but when you do them to yourself you have no one but yourself to beat up. And I really dont like to fight myself, I usually end up losing. :BangHead:

[dotcom]

for wheelies.. starting out... i read r6's post about left foot rear peg.. right foot front peg covering brake.. is that easiest way to learn??

[Prodigy]

Just come to boot camp
:biggthumpup:

[BykeBoyWannabe]

I don't like staggards... If your not ready for it they can make the bike take off to one side... First time I tried a staggard I changed lanes doing a wheelie... Scary stuff...

I find getting into second gear and going about 30-40 mph and popping the clutch only about 2 to 3 grand over... Make sure your up on the tank though... Not too much so you don't rack... But if your forward on the seat it won't come up as fast... You can start getting a feel for it... And as it comes more and more... You can scoot back a lil further, pop the clutch at a little higher over rpm... Maybe do it at higher speeds...

I'm no wheely expert... I'm still learning myself... BUT this is how I learned... Took me about 2 or 3 weeks of alot of practice to get to where I'm comfy enough to mash the gas while sitting way back and try and ride them out kinda far and try and reach balance point...

As far as stand ups go... I'm still powering them up so I can get a feel for them... Soon as I get comfy with they way they feel when they rise I'll clutch those as well...

[st3ph3n]

As far as stand ups go... I'm still powering them up so I can get a feel for them... Soon as I get comfy with they way they feel when they rise I'll clutch those as well...



Clutching standups are the only way to go. :biggrin:

[BykeBoyWannabe]

Well... Soon as they don't scare the shit out of me anymore... I'll clutch'em up.

[Prodigy]

I wish i could wheelie

[dotcom]

I wish i could wheelie

STFU!!! you make it look so easy you bastard

oh.. sorry i didnt call you back last night.. my ass was in bed at 830.. anyway, call me later.. going to Miyako tonight with Den

[King Cobra]

i love the rain man its really good practice. start launches in the rain stoppies wheelies i all practice in the rain but to a safe point. if you can swing it in the rain meaning launch stop turn stunt whatever your into doing then you can really let loose on the dry and if anything gets hair well you know what to do cuz the rain is like practice for stuff that gets out of hand like launches wheelies stoppies turn etc. now each bike is defferent in everything is a factor, bike length weight riders hieght weight postion like my busa and me my balence point at like 60mph is 11.5-11.7 but i like to lean forward and get it higher i also love to bounce it in and out of bp just cuz its fun to me to sway the bike up and down. when im on my friends 04 zx6rr the bp is like ll and for him its like 10.7-10.8 but hes shorter for me, so really you just have to find your own bp, and youll know when you get there it feals like waightlessness or being on a roller coaster when it drops. but please where some gear man and dont squid it up, its never fun seeing people get hurt.