Show me your guns.

[Kinny]

I'm a fan of all guns.
Water guns, paintball guns, paper guns, plastic replicas, bb guns (oooh red rider is my favorite. :D), and of course the real thing. Post pics. :thumb:

[ArturoC]

First one to post their arms is :supergay:

[buddha429]

great, joneric's gonna post his "guns" again :keke:

[Gixxer Geezer]

First one to post their arms is :supergay:



what about legs????????????:eek3:

[Cornbread]

I bought these when I lived by myself. Now that my little cousin visits all the time, I didn't want to keep them around.

Para Ordnance P15-40 .40cal
Ruger KP345PR .45 ACP
Ruger P85 MkII 9mm
Ruger P90 9mm

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/CornbreadIII/Gun/DSCN0208.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/CornbreadIII/Gun/Picture00deleted

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/CornbreadIII/Gun/Picture001.jpg

[Kinny]

First one to post their arms is :supergay:

Haha. :rofl:

[Kinny]

what about legs????????????:eek3:

No hairy legs. :keke:

[Kinny]

Here you go. :D
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4747/gun1mp4.jpg

[buddha429]

hk usp compact .40
kimber ss ultra carry II
kimber tactical ultra II
http://www.hi-upload.com/upload/uploaded7/IMG_6171.JPG

[andre3k]

http://i23.tinypic.com/1e6kn6.jpg

I took them out the safe to get a better view of everything. The rifles are from top to bottom.

Enfield 2A .308 Carbine
M44 Mosin Nagant in 7.62x54R
Rock River Arms Tactical Entry in .223
Savage Long Range Precision Varmint in .223
Ruger 10-22 Target Model in .22lr
BRNO Model 4 Target Rifle in .22lr
Rossi 20 Gauge Single-Shot Shotgun

Pistols (l-r)
Ruger MkIII Target Pistol - Wifes gun
Glock 22
Kel Tec P3AT
Taser International X26
Kimber TLE RL II
Norinco 1911

[Kinny]

Ooooh. That's nice to both Cornbread and Buddha.

[Kinny]

I took them out the safe to get a better view of everything. The rifles are from top to bottom.

Enfield 2A .308 Carbine
M44 Mosin Nagant in 7.62x54R
Rock River Arms Tactical Entry in .223
Savage Long Range Precision Varmint in .223
Ruger 10-22 Target Model in .22lr
BRNO Model 4 Target Rifle in .22lr
Rossi 20 Gauge Single-Shot Shotgun

Pistols (l-r)
Ruger MkIII Target Pistol - Wifes gun
Glock 22
Kel Tec P3AT
Taser International X26
Kimber TLE RL II
Norinco 1911


Is that the Law Enforcement X26 or X26c?
Nice collection btw. I wish my gf shoots, but she's afraid of them. I have to slowly bring her into this.

[andre3k]

Is that the Law Enforcement X26 or X26c?
Nice collection btw. I wish my gf shoots, but she's afraid of them. I have to slowly bring her into this.

LE

[Kinny]

LE

Baller! :nod:

[isoplus]

Holy $hit andre3k impressive collection there.
I really dig that Norinco 1911. :P

[buddha429]

Enfield 2A .308 Carbine
M44 Mosin Nagant in 7.62x54R
Rock River Arms Tactical Entry in .223
Savage Long Range Precision Varmint in .223
Ruger 10-22 Target Model in .22lr
BRNO Model 4 Target Rifle in .22lr
Rossi 20 Gauge Single-Shot Shotgun

Pistols (l-r)
Ruger MkIII Target Pistol - Wifes gun
Glock 22
Kel Tec P3AT
Taser International X26
Kimber TLE RL II
Norinco 1911

:eek3: damn bj....ready for ww3?

so where's your collection kinny?

[andre3k]

Holy $hit andre3k impressive collection there.
I really dig that Norinco 1911. :P

thats the fav one to shoot. The kimber is cool but for $300 the Norinco gets carried more often. Plus they stopped importing them in '94.

[Kinny]

:eek3: damn bj....ready for ww3?

so where's your collection kinny?

My collection is in the safe. I'll take pics in near future. :nod:

[Gixxer Geezer]

Kinny.. you dont work for ATF do ya..:eek3::keke:

[Kinny]

Kinny.. you dont work for ATF do ya..:eek3::keke:

Haha, no. No worries here.

[Psych0ninja]

:eek3: damn bj....ready for ww3?

so where's your collection kinny?

He doesnt have one yet he is just scouting out who's house he wants to go visit with this thread LOL


J/K

[Kinny]

He doesnt have one yet he is just scouting out who's house he wants to go visit with this thread LOL


J/K

Damn, I thought this plan was between you and me. :crying:

[Mala Lingua]

Ehhh, I wish I could put a pic up. You may not believe this--or frighteningly you will--but I lost it. :er: I know it's somewhere in the house, but I'm not exactly sure where. :/:

[Kinny]

Ehhh, I wish I could put a pic up. You may not believe this--or frighteningly you will--but I lost it. :er: I know it's somewhere in the house, but I'm not exactly sure where. :/:

You lost your bb gun?

[Mala Lingua]

You lost your bb gun?

I'd feel better if it were a bb gun. :rofl: Tis a .45 my Dad gave me.

[Gixxer Geezer]

somebody stole all mine last week.. only thing i saved was a daisey bb gun, crossman bb/pellet, and Red Rider FTW.... they got the rest. except the ones i carry on my body...

[Mala Lingua]

somebody stole all mine last week.. only thing i saved was a daisey bb gun, crossman bb/pellet, and Red Rider FTW.... they got the rest. except the ones i carry on my body...

:sad7:

[mekrew]

xd9 i want to get the sub compact soon
http://mekrew.com/images/random/xd%20001.jpg

old ass paintball guns
http://mekrew.com/images/forsale/PB.jpg

i also wish i could get a class3 or w/e to build an sbr with a can on it

[trdvet]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/trdvet/072607_01571.jpg

[FLYIN'DUC]

I bought these when I lived by myself. Now that my little cousin visits all the time, I didn't want to keep them around.

Para Ordnance P15-40 .40cal
Ruger KP345PR .45 ACP
Ruger P85 MkII 9mm
Ruger P90 9mm

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/CornbreadIII/Gun/DSCN0208.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/CornbreadIII/Gun/Picture00deleted

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/CornbreadIII/Gun/Picture001.jpg
ok ok I,ll come get them, might even give U a couple bucks for them, to help with the cousin deal:keke:

[texlurch]

Not gonna post up "all" mine...

First pic, Saiga 308's, HK G3 308
Second pic is the SKS family get together
Third is from last years shoot, left to right
SKS paratrooper, AK Romy, AK Yugo, M14SA, HK G3, and my buds Mini 30

FYI they all stay loaded and locked up, except for the carry 1911 and a couple others... :hello:

[infidel]

here is a few that i have pictures of on photobucket

lmt 6.8
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ikp460/ar001.jpg

6.8 bushy
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ikp460/Bushmaster6.jpg


my rra 223
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/ikp460/flatko1.jpg

[CLETUS]

Here's mine!!
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd109/CLETUS71/DSC00397.jpg

I got as many left handed as I could. I also compete IDPA with some of them and I am coyte sniper in South Texas with the top one.

[isoplus]

OMG we have enough weapons to start a war! :eek3:
Let's schedule next sunday ride to Galvestone and conquer the city :thumb:

[CLETUS]

I turned my spare bed room in the "Bunker" and this is where I reload and gunsmith to keep my toys in top repair.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd109/CLETUS71/DSC00400.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd109/CLETUS71/DSC00399.jpg

[andre3k]

^^^^^

Damn, I started to get one of those Craftsman benches to set my presses on but I needed more room. I built this one outta 2x4's. Mine is in the garage, and it sucks because all my dies rust when I leave them on the press.

http://i6.tinypic.com/6ga0bdeleted

[RinasDaddy]

alot of fun looking toys

[Kinny]

<Drools> on the LMT AR

Nice reloading station. Hehe.
I also like the paintball guns. :nod:

[Mr.P]

I love how these little mankillers are posed on top of each other on top of a blown up target. Kinda like a happy little arsenal victory hump :3some:



http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/CornbreadIII/Gun/Picture001.jpg

[Steve O Chap]

I'm glad I don't have a beef with any of you guys! :nod:

Here is my arsenal... my 2476 Star Trek phaser. :rofl:

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/05/star_trek/image/phasers.jpg

[ArturoC]

I'm glad I don't have a beef with any of you guys! :nod:

Here is my arsenal... my 2476 Star Trek phaser. :rofl:

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/05/star_trek/image/phasers.jpg


That looks more like a toothpaste dispenser. :keke:

[Kinny]

I'm glad I don't have a beef with any of you guys! :nod:

Here is my arsenal... my 2476 Star Trek phaser. :rofl:

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/05/star_trek/image/phasers.jpg

It even have its own kydex holster. That's awesome! :thumb:

[Kinny]

Here are crappy pics of my small collection. :keke:

G19, SA Loaded, and my bump in the night boom stick. :)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5451/img4561ep0.jpg

HK USP Tactical, HK USPf, and my SHTF AR.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/158/img4562fq6.jpg

SHTF AR and Bushy Carbon 15M4
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3328/img4563nn5.jpg

FiveseveN IOM, and Bushy 25th Anniversary AR
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/224/img4564jv5.jpg

I like lights too. :eek3:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3185/img4565qw1.jpg

My 1911 collection. 4 SA, 1 Kimber, and 1 NHC.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8674/img4566ba9.jpg

SOCOMII
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8461/socomiial7.jpg

That's all for now. :nod:

[Fuzzy018]

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc187/Fuzzy018/supersoakers2004d.jpg

:nod::nod::nod:

[Kinny]

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc187/Fuzzy018/supersoakers2004d.jpg

:nod::nod::nod:

Holy sh!t! That's awesome! :thumb:

[mekrew]

i still wish i had a class 3 license so i could build me an sbr

like this but in 5.56 not 9
:eek3:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l176/apsanixay/RRA%20Suppressed%209MM/IMG_0325.jpg

[Kinny]

Class 3 is not a license. It is however a $200 tax stamp paid to the BATF. In your pic, this particular AR will require 2 stamps. One for the SBR, and the other for the suppressor. :thumb:

[mekrew]

so wait .... see i knew u were the kinny gun expert in hiding

so if i wanted to build one ... i would have to just pay $400 in stamp taxes and be legit ? sounds too easy ....

[texlurch]

so wait .... see i knew u were the kinny gun expert in hiding

so if i wanted to build one ... i would have to just pay $400 in stamp taxes and be legit ? sounds too easy ....


Just have to fill out the required forms, get the local PD Cheif to sign off, pass a background check and wait 4-8 months.

If you already have a CHL, it makes it much easier, since the background check is already done. Just have to find an understand PD person to sign off.

And you'll have to submit seperate packets for each Class 3 device.

[Kinny]

so wait .... see i knew u were the kinny gun expert in hiding

so if i wanted to build one ... i would have to just pay $400 in stamp taxes and be legit ? sounds too easy ....

What Texlurch said. Hardest part is getting the CLEO to sign off for you.

[Kinny]

If I want a SBR, this is what I want.
http://www.autoweapons.com/photos07/jan/177xbena.jpg

I'm always more of shotgun kind of person. Hehe.

[mekrew]

thanks for the info ... i might really think about doing that , but ya the cleo part i can see that as hard cause they will want to know 'why'

[Kinny]

A way around it is to form your own corporation or LLC. This will get around the CLEO signature. Only problem is your company owns the firearm, not you.

[lilmckee]

A way around it is to form your own corporation or LLC. This will get around the CLEO signature. Only problem is your company owns the firearm, not you.

so say I start a llc called say " We protect you, llc" the company can own (and its employees can use???) class 3 and 2 weapons?

[texlurch]

so say I start a llc called say " We protect you, llc" the company can own (and its employees can use???) class 3 and 2 weapons?

yes, but still have to file the forms and pay the tax for each and every one, and if you dissolve the "Corp", you have to sell the weapons off also. Or do the paper over and transfer them to personal ownership.

Just gets you out of the CLEO sig.

[mekrew]

A way around it is to form your own corporation or LLC. This will get around the CLEO signature. Only problem is your company owns the firearm, not you.

oh sweet i already have one of those :thumb:

damn do i want another money pit :banghead:

[SPYDER BITE]

First one to post their arms is :supergay:

where's joneric when you need him:rofl:

[Kinny]

so say I start a llc called say " We protect you, llc" the company can own (and its employees can use???) class 3 and 2 weapons?

:rofl::rofl: Why are you giving me such hard questions?!?

But I've found your answer.


5.1.3.3 “Responsible persons.” If the applicant is a corporation, partnership, or association
(including an LLC), the applicant would not qualify for licensing if the entity itself has GCA
disabilities under section 922(g) or (n) or has any individual possessing directly or indirectly the
power to direct or cause the direction of the management and policies of the firm under
disabilities. These management and policy-making individuals include only those having
responsibilities with respect to firearms. For example, they would not include individuals only
having duties related to administration or personnel. Those having management and policymaking
responsibilities with respect to firearms are referred to as “responsible persons” and must
be listed on the firm’s license application and their fingerprints and photographs must accompany the application. If the firm has a “responsible person” under disabilities, the firm
would become eligible for licensing if the person is removed from his or her firearms
management or policy-making position.


From what I understand, only the administrator and more importantly the policy maker of the LLC, not people who work under you.

[Kinny]

Forgot about these pics.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4027/img4393svedeleted

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1272/img4394sra7.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6961/img4395syo7.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1618/img4396spp7.jpg

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7392/img4397skb7.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/313/img4398sia5.jpg

[Kinny]

How about one of these?

M134D-T <drools>

http://www.dillonaero.com/images/lm134_lg.jpg

[mekrew]

nice toys kinny ....

i think i want to build an sbr like 'mr coupe' over at hi

except i want a can on the end

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/Mcoupe/IMG_0659.jpg

[Kinny]

Yeah. Andy has some really nice stuff. Hehe.

[andre3k]

With the price of ammo being high, I shoot my .22's more than anything else now.

[mekrew]

kinny about how much would it run me to build an sbr like that ... except ill prob fork out the extra 5 bills for a suppressor , thats like a must if i go through all the trouble for class 3

[ArturoC]

Damn.. Ya'll have some CRAZY hollywood and video game type guns! :eek3:

I have a 30-06 PUMP, yes, a pump. :keke: Weird. I got it from my dad.
And I have .243 bolt action. Got it when I was 12.
Had a .22 rifle since I was 6 or so.

[andre3k]

http://www.class3weapons.com/sbr/sales_sbr_short_barrel_rifle_ar15_ar-15.html

This guy is on Shepherd and has factory SBR builds in stock. Charges $100 bux for the paperwork plus your tax stamp fee. I would work with him to do it the first then diy when its time for another one. This is assuming you want a factory built one from RRA.

As far as building one, its simply a matter of buying any barrel less than 14.5 inches and screwing it onto your upper. You can buy the parts now, but when its time to assemble everything you need to have your paperwork in order.

[Kinny]

Damn.. Ya'll have some CRAZY hollywood and video game type guns! :eek3:

I have a 30-06 PUMP, yes, a pump. :keke: Weird. I got it from my dad.
And I have .243 bolt action. Got it when I was 12.
Had a .22 rifle since I was 6 or so.

Let see it. :D

crazy hollywood and video game type guns? lol

[Kinny]

kinny about how much would it run me to build an sbr like that ... except ill prob fork out the extra 5 bills for a suppressor , thats like a must if i go through all the trouble for class 3

You want to built one?

It's not hard building one. There are readily made SBR uppers you can buy at the gunshow. You can get them legally as long as you don't attach them to any receiver before you register them to the BATF. The supressor is probably another story. Hehe. It'll probably be easier for you to buy a readily made SBR that way it is registered and all tax stamped paid for before it is in your possession.

[Kinny]

http://www.class3weapons.com/sbr/sales_sbr_short_barrel_rifle_ar15_ar-15.html

This guy is on Shepherd and has factory SBR builds in stock. Charges $100 bux for the paperwork plus your tax stamp fee. I would work with him to do it the first then diy when its time for another one. This is assuming you want a factory built one from RRA.

As far as building one, its simply a matter of buying any barrel less than 14.5 inches and screwing it onto your upper. You can buy the parts now, but when its time to assemble everything you need to have your paperwork in order.

Good stuff. Prices are not bad either.

[ArturoC]

Let see it. :D

crazy hollywood and video game type guns? lol

:keke:



Ok, here it is. 30-06 pump action
http://gratch.no-ip.org/pics/30-06-pump.jpg

[Kinny]

That's sweet! I like the wood furniture. It's beautiful.

[ArturoC]

It's gotta be 20 years old now that I think about it. :eek3:

[Kinny]

Hehe. The thing with firearms is it rarely go out of style.
Come to think of it, it is not a bad idea. A powerful cartridge with the intimidation sound of a shotgun when you rack it.

[lilmckee]

hahaha so is mine, looks exactly like it, but mine is bolt action

[texlurch]

kinny about how much would it run me to build an sbr like that ... except ill prob fork out the extra 5 bills for a suppressor , thats like a must if i go through all the trouble for class 3

Depends on the accesories, but you can build the basic ar for around $600, maybe less if you are a real good shopper. The 4-rail adds anywhere from $75 to $350 depending on whose you buy.

I would wait and not purchase the SBR upper until your paperwork clears... there is a BIG gray area on what is considered "intent", and if you have all the parts laying around, or even another AR complete and a SBR upper loose, you are in that gray area.

[texlurch]

It's gotta be 20 years old now that I think about it. :eek3:


Only 20? Heck I have one built in 1916, another from '41, a Garand from '52.. a 55 and 59 SKS..

I don't even want to bring up the WWII Mosin's...

20 is young! :rofl:

[andre3k]

By the way, these guys are building some kick ass custom 1911's. The guy that started this company used to be president of Dan Wesson, and is now on his own building custom 1911's.

www.fusionfirearms.com

[texlurch]

By the way, these guys are building some kick ass custom 1911's. The guy that started this company used to be president of Dan Wesson, and is now on his own building custom 1911's.

www.fusionfirearms.com (http://www.fusionfirearms.com)


schweet.. but I'd rather build my own...

Here are a couple of mine.....

[andre3k]

By the time I get the tools to build my own I can get a custom, and not have to worry about slide/frame fit. Fitting the barrel, bushing, and all that other stuff. No way I could build my own 1911 with the parts that I want for less than 1300.

[texlurch]

By the time I get the tools to build my own I can get a custom, and not have to worry about slide/frame fit. Fitting the barrel, bushing, and all that other stuff. No way I could build my own 1911 with the parts that I want for less than 1300.


My carry officer/commander parts are at $900 right now, and still need the hard chrome finish.

I already have all the tools and jigs, just have to spread the cost out over time.. get a slide and frame thru Caspian and they will fit it for you or do a 50% or so fit that you have to hand lap.

Trick is a bore paste and oil slurry, and lots of patience..... :thumb:

[mekrew]

You want to built one?

It's not hard building one. There are readily made SBR uppers you can buy at the gunshow. You can get them legally as long as you don't attach them to any receiver before you register them to the BATF. The supressor is probably another story. Hehe. It'll probably be easier for you to buy a readily made SBR that way it is registered and all tax stamped paid for before it is in your possession.

Depends on the accesories, but you can build the basic ar for around $600, maybe less if you are a real good shopper. The 4-rail adds anywhere from $75 to $350 depending on whose you buy.

I would wait and not purchase the SBR upper until your paperwork clears... there is a BIG gray area on what is considered "intent", and if you have all the parts laying around, or even another AR complete and a SBR upper loose, you are in that gray area.

i guess ill wait til i get the paper work done before i even start looking into parts , but i found a good site thats local http://www.class3weapons.com/

but i think once i get some bills paid i might start with the paper work

[texlurch]

i guess ill wait til i get the paper work done before i even start looking into parts , but i found a good site thats local http://www.class3weapons.com/

but i think once i get some bills paid i might start with the paper work

Other thing you can do is build a 16" now to play, and just get the SBR barrel when you're ready. You can get a good CAR kit for $450-475, and a lower for $100 or less.

This is my first, a mid length upper on a Superior Arms lower...

[Kinny]

Nice 1911s. I'm a fan of them. Can never get enough. Hehe.

[texlurch]

Nice 1911s. I'm a fan of them. Can never get enough. Hehe.

Yeah, I have 7 and one more to build...

[mekrew]

Other thing you can do is build a 16" now to play, and just get the SBR barrel when you're ready. You can get a good CAR kit for $450-475, and a lower for $100 or less.

This is my first, a mid length upper on a Superior Arms lower...

i gotta take it baby steps .. but i think im going to keep looking at parts to get an idea of what im looking to build , but that one above i post im REALLY liking that just needs a suppressor :nod:

ill prob attempt to get my class 3 around december

[trdvet]

ATF states that an LLC, CLEO sign off, or a trust will suffice. I will say with certainty that Sheriff Tommy Thomas will not sign your stuff unless you know him or gave money to him.

LLC would be doable but a revocable trust would be the easiest + a $200 tax stamp and a background check and you are good to go. www.ar15.com >class 3 forum has covered this topic in great detail.

[mekrew]

details on revocable trust ....

[DvlRacer]

I love the FN and the Socom II Kinny. I sell the FN for $875 New and the Springfield for $1750 New. What'd you pay/where?

[Kinny]

ATF states that an LLC, CLEO sign off, or a trust will suffice. I will say with certainty that Sheriff Tommy Thomas will not sign your stuff unless you know him or gave money to him.

LLC would be doable but a revocable trust would be the easiest + a $200 tax stamp and a background check and you are good to go. www.ar15.com >class 3 forum has covered this topic in great detail.

Hehe, learn something new every day.

Here are some details.

http://www.woodatter.com/lawyer-attorney-1236139.html

[Kinny]

I love the FN and the Socom II Kinny. I sell the FN for $875 New and the Springfield for $1750 New. What'd you pay/where?

Paid $850+tax on the FiveseveN at Marburgers in Seabrook. That's before the IOM become restricted. Now most you find are the USGs. Only difference I see is the trigger guard (round trigger guard for operators with gloves).

Paid $1650 + shipping + FFL. When said and done, it's really $1690 out the door for the SOCOM II. I got it at impactguns a year ago. Prices have definitely shot up since then.

[Kinny]

My carry officer/commander parts are at $900 right now, and still need the hard chrome finish.

I already have all the tools and jigs, just have to spread the cost out over time.. get a slide and frame thru Caspian and they will fit it for you or do a 50% or so fit that you have to hand lap.

Trick is a bore paste and oil slurry, and lots of patience..... :thumb:

I always want to learn stuff like this. :)

[andre3k]

The only problem with the trust now is that soooo many people are doing to get their class three weapons. The CLEO's are scared to sign off on them for liability issues. They sign off on your full auto and you go shoot up a school house, then you got a nice lawsuit on your hands. I think in NC the ATF is already restrict trust purchases and basically see it as a loophole even though its 100% legal. If you're going to do it, do it soon. The anti's are back at at again.

[mekrew]

friend here at work wanted me to ask:
if he allowed to have an SKS w/o proof of purchace.

on ar15 forums, seems like alot of people wait 2-3 months for class 3 paperwork to be completed thats not that bad ... that might be xmas present to self to file in dec

[andre3k]

I went to class 3 firearms today, and they are top notch. They do SBR builds, supressors, and custom ar builds. Anyway I had a lower lying around and inquired about having them to do they paper work to build it into an SBR. Its $125 for them to engrave your lower and register it. Next you complete the form 4 paperwork. I live in the county but my area is patrolled by pct 4, so I was going to see if Ron Hickman would sign off on it. I was informed that constables cant do sign offs.

So its either Tommy Thomas or Chuck Rosenthal for me. I work real close with Asst DA Warren Diapraam, and was wondering if he could sign off on it. If not then I guess I gotta get my trust worked out. Once I get that done, I can pay my 200 bux and wait for the paperwork to come back. Anyway they have a flat top 10.5 inch RRA upper for $490.00. So I will go that route. Dropping the lower off tomorrow to get it engraved and registered.

[Kinny]

This is what I got from the NFA handbook. HTH :nod:


6.2.4 Law enforcement certification. As provided by the regulations, the law enforcement
certification located on the back of Form 1 must be completed and signed by the local chief of police or
county sheriff, the head of the State police, the State or local district attorney or prosecutor, “or such
other person whose certificate may in a particular case be acceptable to the Director.”97 Examples of
certifying officials, other than those specifically mentioned in the regulations, who have been found to
be acceptable are State attorneys general, heads of district State police offices and certain State court
judges. Judges’ certifications have been accepted if the judges preside over courts of general
jurisdiction having original jurisdiction in all civil and criminal cases or the authority to conduct
criminal jury trials in felony cases. Generally, State magistrates and constables do not have such
authority. NOTE: no official’s certification will be accepted unless the official has jurisdiction over the
place where the applicant resides. The signature on each copy of the certification must be an original
signature in ink. NOTE: if the Form 1 being submitted is to reactivate a properly registered
unserviceable firearm, the law enforcement certification is not required.

[mekrew]

I went to class 3 firearms today, and they are top notch. They do SBR builds, supressors, and custom ar builds. Anyway I had a lower lying around and inquired about having them to do they paper work to build it into an SBR. Its $125 for them to engrave your lower and register it. Next you complete the form 4 paperwork. I live in the county but my area is patrolled by pct 4, so I was going to see if Ron Hickman would sign off on it. I was informed that constables cant do sign offs.

So its either Tommy Thomas or Chuck Rosenthal for me. I work real close with Asst DA Warren Diapraam, and was wondering if he could sign off on it. If not then I guess I gotta get my trust worked out. Once I get that done, I can pay my 200 bux and wait for the paperwork to come back. Anyway they have a flat top 10.5 inch RRA upper for $490.00. So I will go that route. Dropping the lower off tomorrow to get it engraved and registered.

so jealous :thumb:

[andre3k]

so jealous :thumb:

dude go to aimsurplus.com, they have lowers for $99.00, the parts kit is 30.00, and then you take it to class 3 to get it engraved and registered. you can save up for your upper while you wait to get the paperwork back.

I just went by to see what they had in stock, but when I got a chance to hold one in my hands I had to have my own. I found a copy of willmaker on ebay for 7.00. I'll use that to set up my trust if I cant get a sign off.

[mekrew]

im not 100% sure on what lowers and parts im going to run with ... i know what 'look' im going for (the pic i posted earlier) , as for ar15's i dunno whats quality and whats not

i still dont get the trust thing , but ill read up on it more later. ill probably hold off on sbr and pick up this xd9 subcompact 1st

[andre3k]

Found a local lawyer on ARFCOM that will set up your trust for a case of wolf 45 acp. Thats about 270 shipped to the house. Wonder if I should go this route or just use willmaker to set it up?

[Kinny]

That's not a bad deal. Wolf .45ACP cost that much per case? How much is in a case?

[buddha429]

where can i look for step-by-step guide on how to build an ar?

[Kinny]

where can i look for step-by-step guide on how to build an ar?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782

[andre3k]

That's not a bad deal. Wolf .45ACP cost that much per case? How much is in a case?

bout 275 shipped, much cheaper than what i heard other atty's are charging for the same service.

[Kinny]

Damn! Ammo has definitely gone up since then. I remember paying $230 shipped for a box of Blazer Brass late last year. Now I just collect the brass to handload the ammo myself. lol.

[andre3k]

i remember when wolf .223 was 130 per 1k

[trdvet]

Found a local lawyer on ARFCOM that will set up your trust for a case of wolf 45 acp. Thats about 270 shipped to the house. Wonder if I should go this route or just use willmaker to set it up?

$219 at legalzoom.com :happy3:

http://www.legalzoom.com/living-trusts/living-trusts-overview.html

[trdvet]

i remember when wolf .223 was 130 per 1k

:crying: Two of my buddies shoot .308, now they are hurting. :eek3:

3 gun match next saturday!

[andre3k]

$219 at legalzoom.com :happy3:

http://www.legalzoom.com/living-trusts/living-trusts-overview.html

I saw that yesterday, but bought willmaker instead since so many people used that and got their atf approval. But then on arfcom some lawyers chimed in saying that pre printed legal documents and software is the worst way to set your stuff up cause everyones situation is different. Since your nfa weapons are legally owned by the trust, if your trust is set up or worded wrong then you posses an illegal nfa weapon which is a federal charge. Thats the only reason I may have the atty set it up. He can have it ready in a day he says. I plan on sending my form 1 off next week, so I need to decide something soon.

[trdvet]

I saw that yesterday, but bought willmaker instead since so many people used that and got their atf approval. But then on arfcom some lawyers chimed in saying that pre printed legal documents and software is the worst way to set your stuff up cause everyones situation is different. Since your nfa weapons are legally owned by the trust, if your trust is set up or worded wrong then you posses an illegal nfa weapon which is a federal charge. Thats the only reason I may have the atty set it up. He can have it ready in a day he says. I plan on sending my form 1 off next week, so I need to decide something soon.

I don't think the ATF would approve it if it was worded wrong. Anyway, let me know how it went for you and who/what you used.

[Kinny]

I will eventually start hanging around shooting ranges collecting other people's .223 and .308 brass. lol.

[mekrew]

damn everyone going to have sbrs ... sweet

[Kinny]

My favorites. :D
One for me, and one for my future wife. :hs:

http://b8.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01209/86/38/1209808368_l.jpg

I used this baby so much, the plunger tube started to come loose. Instead of sending it back in to SA for warranty work ($50 using Fedex) I ordered the tool, and a new Ed Brown Plunger tube. It's back in business in no time. :keke:

http://a428.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/26/l_33a1442d6ac4ed2e9eecc343eafa81fdeleted

My only railed 1911, and probably the last one. I like them without rails. :nod:

http://a168.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/l_1d16bda1e0a6d6bd00194e7fb8b4e267.jpg

[andre3k]

I have a Kimber with a rail and it was hard to find a holster when it first came out. Its just me but I prefer to keep my light away from my weapon, it just give the turd something to shoot at.

[Kinny]

Agreed. I preferred using the Harris Technique with a hand held than I do with a weapon mounted light. That is unless it's a shotgun or rifle.

[andre3k]

Finished up my trust. Got it notarized and sent it along with my form 1 to the atf. Now time to start saving for a supressor.

[mekrew]

andre ill be hittin you up prob around end of year when im ready to get mine done

are you just getting a can for a pistol or what ?

[Kinny]

I want a can for my Bushy AR. :hs:

[andre3k]

AR-15's (http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&&cat=33&) for $550!

Reports of ARFCOM are that these are really nice rifles and with the hand select you cant tell from new.

[mekrew]

i would but i gotta pay some bills 1st .. booooo bills

[Longnguyen]

http://www.justinnewitter.com/stock/Red_cap_gun.jpg

[Kinny]

Holster wear on the cylinder? :keke:

[DvlRacer]

Ya'll have some really nice collections, maybe one day I'll post up all the insurance pics of mine. As far as ammo goes, give me a shout and I'll get ya'll prices on cases. I generally only make 15-30 cents a box on ammo(we figure why rape you on ammo when you already bought a gun). But I can do even better deals for cases and it'd be free shipping since it would just get thrown in with another one of my orders.

[Longnguyen]

Holster wear on the cylinder? :keke:

yes plus the caps werent of high quality so it left residue that made it deteriorate

[Kinny]

yes plus the caps werent of high quality so it left residue that made it deteriorate

Time to clean her up and duracoat that baby. :nod:

[wlgorman]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/wlgorman/GetAttachment.jpg

[Kinny]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/wlgorman/GetAttachment.jpg

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[andre3k]

Ya'll have some really nice collections, maybe one day I'll post up all the insurance pics of mine. As far as ammo goes, give me a shout and I'll get ya'll prices on cases. I generally only make 15-30 cents a box on ammo(we figure why rape you on ammo when you already bought a gun). But I can do even better deals for cases and it'd be free shipping since it would just get thrown in with another one of my orders.

who wants in on a MH group buy on ammo? .223 will be expensive from any retailer right now. I need .223 really bad, but 350 per case is expensive.

[mekrew]

im in for 9mm , no ar for me yet so no need for 223 , i was even thinking building 9mm sbr. but thats AFTER i build a 223

[Kinny]

who wants in on a MH group buy on ammo? .223 will be expensive from any retailer right now. I need .223 really bad, but 350 per case is expensive.

Prices have gone up so much, it's hard to afford ammo now. Just buy a little at a time. It'll stock up in no time. Hehe.

[andre3k]

Prices have gone up so much, it's hard to afford ammo now. Just buy a little at a time. It'll stock up in no time. Hehe.

i shoot it as soon as I buy it. :angry7:

[Kinny]

lol.
Well. Buy in bulk is always the ways to go, but sometimes I buy a box or two of the ammo I want and just store them away. I don't go shoot as much as I used to. Something I will definitely pick back up when I get a better paying job where I can afford the ammo again.

[Kinny]

More water guns, bb guns, paintball guns, and real guns. :D

[__NATE__]

who wants in on a MH group buy on ammo? .223 will be expensive from any retailer right now. I need .223 really bad, but 350 per case is expensive.

what kind of prices have you been finding and for how many rds.??????

[texlurch]

For .223 practice and plinking I just buy Wolf in bulk. The new polymer coated stuff shoots fine and you can still find 1000 rd. for around 150-180 bucks. I have a couple thou good Radway green surplus for a rainy day.

[Kinny]

Honestly I don't like to use Wolff in my ARs. Their extractors are not built as beefy as the extractors on the AKs. Steel casing is hard on the extractors in American designed firearms. If I still have an AK47, I would use Wolff as my ammo any day of the week.

[Kinny]

what kind of prices have you been finding and for how many rds.??????

Last time I ordered a box was $315 shipped to my house and that was close to 6 months ago.

[texlurch]

Until I get to the 10000 rd mark I won't worry about it, and by that point what I saved will pay for a few extractors. I have plenty of AK's to play with as well so they all get some time on the range...

[Kinny]

You do have a point.

[texlurch]

Plus I clean mine pretty much every time I shoot them.. well not so much the AK's..

And I always look at bolts, extractors, FP, triggers etc. while I have them apart, to watch for odd wear and any other problems. Hopefully it won't just break in the middle of a session, and if it does, I never take just one!

[H2447INTX]

NOT ALL BUT MOST!

[1badzx12r]

MOSSBERG...FTWhttp://www.bbguns.co.uk/l.aspx?k=2250975:notworthy:

[Kinny]

Ooooh. Very nice. :nod::thumb:

[FlipSideUp]

Bump.

Just thought I'd post mine. I'm sure everyone of you know this one well enough, but since I didn't see one posted, here it is:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z227/FlipSideUp/DSC_0807.jpg

A standard Beretta 92FS, or M9 depending on who you ask!

[cogs69]

This is my baby. Remington Sendero .25-06. Since this picture I have added a bushnell 6-18 on it and a Harris bipod.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/images/profilegallery/4247/1_IMG_0400.JPG

[Kinny]

Nice 92 there.

I've always wanted a bolts gun. Namely a Remington Police 700 .308 Definitely when I can afford one. :thumb:

[cogs69]

Can't go wrong with a Rem. 700 action. If I'm not mistaken, more custom sniper rifles are made from that action than any other. I'm a sissy so a .308 is more gun than I like to shoot on a regular basis. I had a .270 WSM and I didn't mind shooting it 2-3 times, but after 5-6 shots it started to get uncomfortable. I'll stick with my smaller calibers till I have to get something bigger.

[Whorenet]

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u46/thedorightman82/guns.gif

[Kinny]

Can't go wrong with a Rem. 700 action. If I'm not mistaken, more custom sniper rifles are made from that action than any other. I'm a sissy so a .308 is more gun than I like to shoot on a regular basis. I had a .270 WSM and I didn't mind shooting it 2-3 times, but after 5-6 shots it started to get uncomfortable. I'll stick with my smaller calibers till I have to get something bigger.

I agree. .308 bolts gun can be a bit punishing especially with no buffer mechanism. But if anything I would like to get a supressor for one of my 1911s first. :happy3:

[andre3k]

On the home stretch here with the SBR build. Dropped the lower off to class 3 weapons in October and it sat there until yesterday. Still with no engraving. He said that he does his machining in batches of 20. Something that he failed to remotely mention 3 weeks ago. He still does good builds but he is sloooooooow.

So I call up Keith with NFA Investments in Spring and he offered to pick up my lower and drop it off for me. Had the engraving done in 5 hrs on his birthday. :thumb:. He also does barrel threading, custom supressors, machine gun smithing, pretty much everything NFA related.

So here are the results. Still waiting on the upper from Rock River Arms. I finish putting the lower together last night. Waiting on the moly resin to come in so I can refinish the lower.

http://i12.tinypic.com/87b96io.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/7xazqpy.jpg

[gixxerbill]

You know what is funny if some Europeans are looking at this thread and just literally freak'n out. Hey, they are the bunch of losers that let there gov't disarm them. Dumbass europeans no wonder everybody tries to conquer their funny talk'n asses.

[wlgorman]

'ol ****ed up teeth, no defense havin brits...

[Kinny]

On the home stretch here with the SBR build. Dropped the lower off to class 3 weapons in October and it sat there until yesterday. Still with no engraving. He said that he does his machining in batches of 20. Something that he failed to remotely mention 3 weeks ago. He still does good builds but he is sloooooooow.

So I call up Keith with NFA Investments in Spring and he offered to pick up my lower and drop it off for me. Had the engraving done in 5 hrs on his birthday. :thumb:. He also does barrel threading, custom supressors, machine gun smithing, pretty much everything NFA related.

So here are the results. Still waiting on the upper from Rock River Arms. I finish putting the lower together last night. Waiting on the moly resin to come in so I can refinish the lower.

http://i12.tinypic.com/87b96io.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/7xazqpy.jpg


That's so sweet! :thumb::notworthy:

[andre3k]

Got my form 1 in the mail today along with my tax stamp. In a little less than a month and a half. Not too bad.

[andre3k]

sorry didn't read the whole thread but you are going to be rockin fully auto guns now? is that class 3 right?

I don't feel like postin up my guns. just an xd.40 and a keltec .380 . also have a yugo sks w/ a 30 round clip. want a 12 pump more than anything

no machineguns this time. I'm building an AR-15 Short barrel rifle. Had to get the tax stamp for it.

[Kinny]

Speaking of machine guns, someone was rocking a MP5K last night at Marksman. The sound of it firing is music to my ears. :hs:

[andre3k]

Finally done.

Mega Machine Lower Receiver
RRA 10.5 inch Upper Receiver
RRA Tactical Carry Handle
A2 Flashider replaced with Miculek Compensator

http://i3.tinypic.com/6sioz0x.jpg


http://i9.tinypic.com/8fony44.jpg

[FLYIN'DUC]

SWEET, whats the shortest barrel U can have without anything special?:thumb:

[andre3k]

SWEET, whats the shortest barrel U can have without anything special?:thumb:

16 inches, or 14.5 with a perm. fixed muzzle brake to bring it back to 16 inches.

[FLYIN'DUC]

16 inches, or 14.5 with a perm. fixed muzzle brake to bring it back to 16 inches.

cool, thanks for info:thumb:

[Patrick]

Currently my favorite AR15:

Stag Arms left hander, match trigger, Surefire laser, Acog TA31DOC scope and a few other goodies.



http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/pohart/AR001.jpg

[Patrick]

2nd favorite full size .45, my Kimber .45 Tactical model.

(my current favorite is my Kimber TLERL full size, don't have a current pic of it though)

This one is for sale btw, $800.00. Send me a pm if you're interested.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/pohart/Tactical.jpg

[Pre-K]

thanks for the info ... i might really think about doing that , but ya the cleo part i can see that as hard cause they will want to know 'why'

My own damn chief wouldn't sign off on a supressor for a .22... and I actually had a legit reason for it.

Chiefs and sheriffs won't understand... they think THEY would be approving you for the sbr, supressor, whatever, and they obviously won't do it for liability reasons. Thats not the case, however. It is simply them saying they have no reason to believe you should not be allowed to have one. The BATF or ATF or whoever is the one who says you can or can't.

Super fugging gay...

[mekrew]

damn them i want my sbr ... i planned on starting my build in a month or so if i dont get that kahr mk9 elite

[PoPoRiderRR]

Dang Patrick, you have more guns then I do...

[MACK]

let me get my AK-47

[Pre-K]

damn them i want my sbr ... i planned on starting my build in a month or so if i dont get that kahr mk9 elite

I'm gonna try and get him to sign off on an SBR, that sounds less "intimidating" than a supressor.

I'll let ya' know how it goes. I'm thinking of a Benelli M1 or M4 with a 14" tube:nod:

You ever thought about one of the RockRiver AR pistols? I've got a 7" one and its pretty sweet... you can even shoot it from your shoulder since it has that long recoil tube. I'll stop by and show it to ya'...

[Patrick]

Dang Patrick, you have more guns then I do...


You could say I own a "couple"....:keke:

[Pre-K]

I've said before... its good to see so many people here (motohouston) have guns; more specifically, they're "defense minded".

95% of the calls I take are from scared "sheople" that can't take care of themselves. Suggest they implement some general safety practices, including buying a gun, and they say "Oooh, that sounds dangerous!".

[andre3k]

I'm gonna try and get him to sign off on an SBR, that sounds less "intimidating" than a supressor.

I'll let ya' know how it goes. I'm thinking of a Benelli M1 or M4 with a 14" tube:nod:

You ever thought about one of the RockRiver AR pistols? I've got a 7" one and its pretty sweet... you can even shoot it from your shoulder since it has that long recoil tube. I'll stop by and show it to ya'...


If he wont sign off on it, then you can always form a trust. That is what I did. Took 5 weeks to get the approval from the ATF. Formed the trust myself or you can get an attorney to do it. There is a local one that will do it for a case of ammo, he has a few m16's to feed.

[40Arpent]

Seriously...

(1) Join the NRA
(2) Vote Republican

If you fail to do BOTH of these, well, that's just phucking lame. Take it a step farther and spread the word, or you can kiss your rights good-bye.

Sorry for the rant, but with the elections looming...

[mekrew]

I'm gonna try and get him to sign off on an SBR, that sounds less "intimidating" than a supressor.

I'll let ya' know how it goes. I'm thinking of a Benelli M1 or M4 with a 14" tube:nod:

You ever thought about one of the RockRiver AR pistols? I've got a 7" one and its pretty sweet... you can even shoot it from your shoulder since it has that long recoil tube. I'll stop by and show it to ya'...

ive seen those at the gun shows but they just didnt catch my eye like the sbr

If he wont sign off on it, then you can always form a trust. That is what I did. Took 5 weeks to get the approval from the ATF. Formed the trust myself or you can get an attorney to do it. There is a local one that will do it for a case of ammo, he has a few m16's to feed.

thats what i will probably do if i have to go that route

[mekrew]

i like this one
http://www.jcweaponry.com/images/ar15/Pistol_5.jpg

[exlaverda]

I inherited my family's collection spanning the last 250yrs.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/JeffSeal/Picture001.jpg
Colt 1860 - 1862
D.Moore Pat. revolver - 1862 (both of these belonged to my 10x Grandad, officer in the Civil War... I also have his sword and discharge papers)
Iver-Johnson .22 "owls head" - 1914
F&R Unique .32 SA - 1942
H&R 929 .22 - 1964
Ruger MKII .22 target - 2005
Rossi .357Magnum - 2005

The little one in the bottom right corner is actually a toy from about 1911 that shoots .22 blanks...

I don't have a pic of:
Savage 1899 30/30 - 1927
Mossberg .410ga - 1934
Meriden Firearms Dbl brl 12ga. - 1921??
Remington 56 .22 - 1951

Only the first three handguns are not fired on a regular basis

Jeff

[mekrew]

wow todd now u got me thinkin about one of these since sbr is a long wait

this has the handguard that i wanted on the sbr
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/Snail50/CMMG1Small.jpg

[andre3k]

Seriously...

(1) Join the NRA
(2) Vote Republican

If you fail to do BOTH of these, well, that's just phucking lame. Take it a step farther and spread the word, or you can kiss your rights good-bye.

Sorry for the rant, but with the elections looming...

Agree with 1, not quite so sure about 2. Romney is a republican and voted to ban assault weapons in MA, and it passed. Republicans who distinguish "assault" weapons from any other gun are just as bad as the anti's. Only person I'd vote for in this election is Ron Paul. As far as the federal government is concerned what rights have gun owners gained in the last 100 years? CHL is a states rights issue and that is pretty restrictive as well.

[Pre-K]

wow todd now u got me thinkin about one of these since sbr is a long wait

this has the handguard that i wanted on the sbr
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/Snail50/CMMG1Small.jpg

Basically what mine looks like, but the quad-rail is a smidge shorter and there is no cushy foam pad on the recoil tube...

I bought mine so that, if the homo demos take office, I'll have a gun worth some money!:nod: But I think this would be the way to go... no hassles.

[mekrew]

ya i think im going to have to go that route now ....

what do these run at the show ... hmmmm damn money pits i wanted to get a new dresser in mirror in my room but i think this is better lol

[mekrew]

so what brand ar-15 should i look for..... i want it to look just like the one i posted ... hand guard and all

[mekrew]

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88964800

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i do need a zombie fighter and sbr is just soo much work

[andre3k]

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88964800

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i do need a zombie fighter and sbr is just soo much work

I haven't done much research on pistols, but I believe that you need to buy a pistol lower, add your parts kit, then the upper. You should be able to build one for 700 - 800 maybe less, if you find a good deal on some used parts. The AR is basically a "kit" gun that doesn't take much in the way of gunsmithing to get it going. If you change your mind later, then the can add the shoulder stock and register it as an SBR. Guns shows dont offer the lowest prices on anything, a few deals can be had, but I wouldn't hold off on a project just to find something at a gunshow.

Creating the trust for my sbr took about an hour of my time. Although I did spent a longer amount doing the research for properly setting it up. At least when you register the sbr, you pretty much know the process. Later own if you want to get in machine guns or suppressors you will already know the process.

[Ridesmart]

...

[andre3k]

^^^^^

who's 1919 is that?

[mekrew]

I haven't done much research on pistols, but I believe that you need to buy a pistol lower, add your parts kit, then the upper. You should be able to build one for 700 - 800 maybe less, if you find a good deal on some used parts. The AR is basically a "kit" gun that doesn't take much in the way of gunsmithing to get it going. If you change your mind later, then the can add the shoulder stock and register it as an SBR. Guns shows dont offer the lowest prices on anything, a few deals can be had, but I wouldn't hold off on a project just to find something at a gunshow.

Creating the trust for my sbr took about an hour of my time. Although I did spent a longer amount doing the research for properly setting it up. At least when you register the sbr, you pretty much know the process. Later own if you want to get in machine guns or suppressors you will already know the process.

cool i guess i need todo research on building one

any preferences on lowers etc

[andre3k]

cool i guess i need todo research on building one

any preferences on lowers etc

I can tell you which ones are prettier. IMO they are all the same in the end. As long as it functions with your lower parts kit and the gun goes bang, thats all that matters. Some people talk of lower/ upper receiver fit, but it has no bearing on the accuracy in an AR. Just go with what you can afford, STAG, MEGA, RRA, BUSHMASTER, NOVESKE all make fine lowers.

[BigComfy]

I fear Andre3k

[mekrew]

I can tell you which ones are prettier. IMO they are all the same in the end. As long as it functions with your lower parts kit and the gun goes bang, thats all that matters. Some people talk of lower/ upper receiver fit, but it has no bearing on the accuracy in an AR. Just go with what you can afford, STAG, MEGA, RRA, BUSHMASTER, NOVESKE all make fine lowers.

well come on fill me in ... i want to clone that gun i posted

[andre3k]

well come on fill me in ... i want to clone that gun i posted


Lets say for the sake of simplicity you go RRA on all your parts.

RRA Fully assembled Lower with buffer tube: $250.00
7.5 INCH A4 upper (flat top) assembled: $450.00
Transfer fee: $20.00 on the lower
Two 30 rd mags: $25.00

total: $745.00 (ball park on prices, but pretty close)

add in 350 if you want an eotech sight.

Or you can just order one, for about 850 - 900
http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR2115X&storeid=1&image=larp22307.gif&CFID=6697881&CFTOKEN=82441500

[mekrew]

time to put some stuff on the cc

[andre3k]

time to put some stuff on the cc

when you are ready to order, give pete @ legal transfers a call. You can google him, but he has the best prices on RRA that I've seen. No state taxes and all you need is to find an ffl that wont rape you.

www.ar15sales.com

[andre3k]

I've considered opening a place of my own for the past few years but there is no money in guns, unless you do volume.

[mekrew]

damn these guns i want so many ....

now the question is where in the hell would i get to go play with this if i got one

[andre3k]

damn these guns i want so many ....

now the question is where in the hell would i get to go play with this if i got one

well with the ar pistol it would pretty much be a range toy. thats why I never built one. For SD a pistol is much more adequate. smaller, probably more accurate, and easier to handle. Imagine shooting that ar pistol one handed at a target that is most likely moving and / or shooting back at you. total weight with a loaded 30 rd mag is probably 5 -6 lbs. thats a heavy ass pistol.

If you shoot it two handed then you might as well go with the sbr or a full size ar. doesn't take any longer to shoulder a stock.

After you get whatever you want then take a few training classes to learn how to use it. gives you a chance to use your weapon in a real world environment other than a static range.

[mekrew]

i think this is a good year to get into some comp pistol shooting idpa ipsc or whatever

u made a good point about ar15 pistol, i really would never get to play with it .. i like to play with my toys

[Pre-K]

i think this is a good year to get into some comp pistol shooting idpa ipsc or whatever

u made a good point about ar15 pistol, i really would never get to play with it .. i like to play with my toys


DOOD! Come shoot IPSC out at PSC in Friendswood with me... its every third Saturday. Non-members welcome...:nod:

Anyone else interested in shooting IPSC?

[mekrew]

im down , i need to get a holster for it .. im thinking uncle mikes iwb

you going this month ?

[mekrew]

debating comp tac pro undercover
http://www.comp-tac.com/catalog/images/pro_undercover.jpg

or the unclue mikes
http://www.unclemikes.com/images/inside_pant_holster.jpg

xdtalk everyone swears by this, crossbread supertuck
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/sitebuilder/images/SuperTuck_untucked2-127x182.jpg

[trdvet]

when you are ready to order, give pete @ legal transfers a call. You can google him, but he has the best prices on RRA that I've seen. No state taxes and all you need is to find an ffl that wont rape you.

www.ar15sales.com

There is a Metro officer that does $10 FFLs, used him with good results. Had a place in Willis that did them for free for Popos but his biz is down for now due to new city rules.

[03.gsxr.1000]

Mine and the wifes

[andre3k]

Switched things up a bit. Need an optic and she'll be good to go.
http://i38.tinypic.com/21ngmd4.jpg