are you texas first?

[Azylum]

i read an article about 7 or so years ago, i just want to know where this group stands. if texas were to secede from teh nation, and there were a civil war, are you a TEXAN or an AMERICAN. nothing deep to dwell on here, just a curiosity. ill state the rest of the article after i see a good vote.

[hardcoresteve]

TEXAN

[Azylum]

then vote dumbass.

[hardcoresteve]

i did butt face

[Crystalline]

Man, ya'll are mean! I voted.

[hardcoresteve]

lol

[Azylum]

im not mean. im just saying what everyone is thinking: steve is a dumbass.

[50cc chick]

Proud to be Texan!!!

[hardcoresteve]

im not mean. im just saying what everyone is thinking: steve is a dumbass.
dont hate cause my bike is better and im younger

[Crystalline]

im not mean. im just saying what everyone is thinking: steve is a dumbass.


Aw man, I don't know him to laugh:eh:




:keke:

[Azylum]

dont hate cause my bike is better and im younger


you may BE younger, but i LOOK younger. can you imagine what youll look like when you actually reach my age? ewwww......

[Azylum]

Aw man, I don't know him to laugh:eh:




:keke:


admit it. you thought that was funny.

[Crystalline]

Can you try to find the article. I want to see it, or something similar to it.

[ I'm a Texan:nod: ]

[Azylum]

btw i met steve at clayton and del's party saturday. i can talk all the shit i want. haha

[Azylum]

Can you try to find the article. I want to see it, or something similar to it.

[ I'm a Texan:nod: ]

it was back in 2000 i think, but ill see if i can google something up.

[Crystalline]

btw i met steve at clayton and del's party saturday. i can talk all the shit i want. haha


DAMNIT! I didn't go. I was suppose to go out with my sister, but that didn't happen so it was just me and Sean and a movie night. :BangHead:




[jk Sean when you see this tomorrow:happy3: ]

[hardcoresteve]

haha wait who was the one that threw up after a keg stand?
youll meet me if you go to bcw this weekend with the groups

[Crystalline]

haha wait who was the one that threw up after a keg stand?
youll meet me if you go to bcw this weekend with the groups


I am trying to get Sean to come, but if he doesn't he is aware that I will still be attending.:icon_thum

[Azylum]

still searching for the article, but i found this exact same poll on another forum:

http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=2038691

its old, but note the difference.

[hardcoresteve]

I am trying to get Sean to come, but if he doesn't he is aware that I will still be attending.:icon_thum
i take it sean is your b/f?

[Azylum]

my middle name is sean. shes talking about me.

[Brena23]

btw i met steve at clayton and del's party saturday. i can talk all the shit i want. haha


WOW ok umm you wont be coming to anymore of MY parties!

[hardcoresteve]

WOW ok umm you wont be coming to anymore of MY parties!
haha azylum got OWNED

[Azylum]

damn i DID get pwned!:eek3:

[Azylum]

I WAS JUST KIDDING!! IT WAS A JOKEY JOKE!!

[Crystalline]

My state is nothing without my nation. My nation of course. What is the point? It seems pretty obvious that everyone will say nation.
HAHAHAHA!! He needs to open a history book and use some critical thinking.

Maybe it's because my state was a nation. I've alays felt a clearer loyalty to Texas. I love the USA and would give the last full measure of devotion for her. But that line ends at the needs/call of Texas.
He could learn a thing or two from this guy.
Yeah, I'm not going to argue with the Texans here, but for the rest of us, I know officially we have a Federal government which by definition is based upon the agreement of the States, but let's wake up and smell the coffee. Since the Civil War the Federal Government has become one that calls most of the shots. And besides, the way the constitution is set-up, it is the final arbiter btwn. the states. Money talks, and most of the tax revenue (or debt) runs through D.C. Should more local authority be given to states and individuals in dealing with issues such as eduation and moral issues? Ah, yes, but even then the Federal Govt. has to grant that access, or to have never involved itself in the first place. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. Sometimes it works to our benefit, sometimes it doesn't. I'm a southern Republican and it would benefit the both parties if we were to eliminate the electoral college and have the executive of the Federal Government voted on by a nationwide popular vote. Amendments to the Constitution should be voted on by national general election popular vote and not by individual state elections.


Okay so this shit goes on and on... But this guy says he is a Southern Republican which I don't see. I guess what I understood it to be is wrong. Can someone explain this to me.:eh:

[Crystalline]

i take it sean is your b/f?


Nope.

[hardcoresteve]

Nope.

oh really now :hello: j/k

[Brena23]

haha azylum got OWNED


No not owned... My house and it was also my bday party but I get totaly blown off :angry7: :angry7: :angry7:

[Azylum]

No not owned... My house and it was also my bday party but I get totaly blown off :angry7: :angry7: :angry7:


was it really?!! i was under the impression that it was claytons and dels only. a thousand apologies.:sad7: but hey, YOURE the one i gave the money to!:icon_thum :laughing6

[hardcoresteve]

No not owned... My house and it was also my bday party but I get totaly blown off :angry7: :angry7: :angry7:
i didnt blow you off. :icon_bigg and no im not a suck up

[Crystalline]

Pack - yeah, well that was purely shot from the hip Clapton II and purely speculation. Of course, far beyond speculation is how voters mysteriously come out of the graveyards, and inconsitencies of elections of Chicago, South Dakota and other areas where the Tammany Hall machines of the glorious Democratic party spin their "magic." What kills me is the junk being thrown at us even to this day after all the votes have been counted over and over verifying that Bush won in Florida (2000) and Ohio (2004). You would think that we stole their playbook the way they react after close elections that go our way. And what happened when the Sioux reservation had more votes than Indians? We shrugged it off. We've been shrugging off the Dems corruption for decades now, but it'll all come out in the wash. What's really hard to take is the tendency to rehash the lies after intervals of time, because they know a certain segment of the population has pretty much fogotten things. "The Supreme Court decided the presidency!" You know, that sounds nice, except for the fact that they ACTUALLY went back and counted and recounted until the Dem observers grew blue in the face. Get over it. Clinton won two elections with less popular votes than Bush in BOTH elections. 38% in the first election. You see, the fact is, the Democrats can't win Democratic elections. Can you say Kennedy-Nixon? Boy that election victory was clear as a bell, and even in my home state there was something funky going on. I could go on forever.

We assume that registering to vote is a franchise that a citizen would take pride in themselves and do it on their own initutive. The Dems actually should be praised for their efforts in registering voters. I have no problem with that, although sometimes they get people to vote that have no idea what they're voting for. It basically boils down to drumming up votes, but there's nothing wrong with it. But to say that Repblicans are scared of the populace because they don't do the "voter drive" thing is silly.
Two-way, three way? It's all the same to me and the Green party as well.

Okay I can't read anymore, but I know RICK HIC would enjoy this!!

[Brena23]

i didnt blow you off. :icon_bigg and no im not a suck up


nope you did not

[hardcoresteve]

nope you did not
hows your butt? have you goten one of those donuts?

[Azylum]

wait a minute.....

[Brena23]

was it really?!! i was under the impression that it was claytons and dels only. a thousand apologies.:sad7: but hey, YOURE the one i gave the money to!:icon_thum :laughing6

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28710

well maybe you should go read again:confused1 :nod: :keke:

[Azylum]

...I DID, I DID! i sent you a HAPPY BIRTHDAY on your myspace. but i forgot that too. my wife hates me cause i have a horrible memory (no joke).

[Brena23]

I dont blame her I would hate you too! :eek3:

[Azylum]

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28710

well maybe you should go read again:confused1 :nod: :keke:

dont remember seeing that thread, sorry.:sad7:

[Crystalline]

oh really now :hello: j/k


:eek3:

[Azylum]

I dont blame her I would hate you too! :eek3:

k.

[hardcoresteve]

:eek3:
lol

[Brena23]

i will forgive you this time dont let it happen again

[Azylum]

ya know, i dont remember getting a happy birthday from you.......

[Azylum]

14 votes. lookin good.

[Azylum]

ok. ive searched and searched and searched. i canNOT find the article, i cant even remember which magazine i read it in it was so long ago. maybe someone else would have better luck.

[Crystalline]

Person 1.) "You are more loyal to your state? Why?"

Person 2.) "Maybe it's because my state was a nation. I've alays felt a clearer loyalty to Texas. I love the USA and would give the last full measure of devotion for her. But that line ends at the needs/call of Texas."

Person 3.) "Amen fellow Texan!!! I think we Texans are the only ones that would choose State over Nation if need be."

:icon_thum

[Azylum]

according to the article, person three is correct. out of the 50 states that were polled, texas was THE ONLY ONE that chose state over nation, and it was by a HUGE margin. go texas!

[hardcoresteve]

God bless Texas. American by birth, TEXAN by the grace of God

[Crystalline]

Person 1: You are more loyal to your state? Why?


Person 2: Maybe it's because my state was a nation. I've alays felt a clearer loyalty to Texas. I love the USA and would give the last full measure of devotion for her. But that line ends at the needs/call of Texas.


Person 3: So....hypothetically....if Texas chose to leave the union, by force, you would join them and raise arms against the American Army?


Person 4: First of all, Texas does not have to withdraw by force. We are the only State that can actually withdraw from the Union legally. We have always retained the right to do so. If, for example, the communist Hillary gets elected into office and tries to take away our freedom, we could withdraw, and there would be NOTHING the US could do about it. We could give the US an ultimatum to get thier troops out of our State if we wanted to. Or we could agree to a treaty as well. Either way Texas could become a sovereign nation at any time we saw fit.

Person 5: No, we would bomb you and take you oil if republicans are in power.

BAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA!!! I'd like to see that shit happen!!

[hardcoresteve]

Person 1: You are more loyal to your state? Why?


Person 2: Maybe it's because my state was a nation. I've alays felt a clearer loyalty to Texas. I love the USA and would give the last full measure of devotion for her. But that line ends at the needs/call of Texas.


Person 3: So....hypothetically....if Texas chose to leave the union, by force, you would join them and raise arms against the American Army?


Person 4: First of all, Texas does not have to withdraw by force. We are the only State that can actually withdraw from the Union legally. We have always retained the right to do so. If, for example, the communist Hillary gets elected into office and tries to take away our freedom, we could withdraw, and there would be NOTHING the US could do about it. We could give the US an ultimatum to get thier troops out of our State if we wanted to. Or we could agree to a treaty as well. Either way Texas could become a sovereign nation at any time we saw fit.

Person 5: No, we would bomb you and take you oil if republicans are in power.

BAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA!!! I'd like to see that shit happen!!
haha me2

[Azylum]

the idea of vermont's sucession from the US got me thinking about this. right now-last i heard- 13% of vermont's population is willing to sucede. thats up from several years ago when it was 8%. and if i remember correctly, and someone correct me if im wrong, but doesnt texas have the right to sucede if we wanted to? wasnt that in the "contract" when joining the nation?

[Azylum]

n/m. crystal posted before i did, lol.

[Crystalline]

n/m. crystal posted before i did, lol.


:happy3:

[hardcoresteve]

the idea of vermont's sucession from the US got me thinking about this. right now-last i heard- 13% of vermont's population is willing to sucede. thats up from several years ago when it was 8%. and if i remember correctly, and someone correct me if im wrong, but doesnt texas have the right to sucede if we wanted to? wasnt that in the "contract" when joining the nation?
werent you there when the treaty was signed gramps?

[hardcoresteve]

azylum i just pmed you

[Azylum]

werent you there when the treaty was signed gramps?


u be quiet young'un. respect your elders.

[ownage]

my family first

[hardcoresteve]

texas would be safer then the us. we dont **** around, its all these non texas folk that eff around.

[Azylum]

texas would be safer then the us. we dont **** around, its all these non texas folk that eff around.


naah. i dont think thats true. we all have our loyalties. wether youre US or Texas first, niether is wrong. i am an american, but if Texas were to ever sucede, you better believe that theres a damn good reason for it. vermont NEEDS the nation. texas does not.

[jrock]

I voted U.S. 1st. There is nothing requiring such a drastic measure to be acted upon. Texas does retain the right to secede however I dont think it will ever, ever, happen. Never.
So its just wishful thinking by a bunch of Texans who dont know Jack from Bubba:keke:
IMO:icon_bigg

[superman77532]

when texas won it's independance from mexico we were a country i think for 11 years, then we voted to loin u.s. and they took what was tx and split it up and added it into 5 states. but i too remember reading as part of our joining the "union" we could leave it too. i dont think that would ever happen, and if it did, would we get the land back they used to make the 5 states?

[soap4life]

i dont really care. probably neither. canadian for life

[Azylum]

I voted U.S. 1st. There is nothing requiring such a drastic measure to be acted upon. Texas does retain the right to secede however I dont think it will ever, ever, happen. Never.
So its just wishful thinking by a bunch of Texans who dont know Jack from Bubba:keke:
IMO:icon_bigg

lol. i dont think it would ever ever ever ever happen either. it was just a hypothetical poll.:icon_thum

[Crystalline]

I voted U.S. 1st. There is nothing requiring such a drastic measure to be acted upon. Texas does retain the right to secede however I dont think it will ever, ever, happen. Never.
So its just wishful thinking by a bunch of Texans who dont know Jack from Bubba:keke:
IMO:icon_bigg

No, there is nothing that will require such drastic measures at the moment. Texas does have the right to secede if EVER needed.

And what Azylum said, it's just hypothetical thread. You're just mean!:keke:

[Crystalline]

lol. i dont think it would ever ever ever ever happen either. it was just a hypothetical poll.:icon_thum

You changed you signature again?!?!? Man!! You put on all that gear not to go riding, but to take pictures. :keke: BTW, love the cape!

[Crystalline]

HAHA, I'm watching Bill Cosby and he is teaching Theo a lesson.
He says with a regular job you will be making about $1,200 a month but he's going to take back $350 because the government takes taxes from regular people first." :angry7:

[Azylum]

You changed you signature again?!?!? Man!! You put on all that gear not to go riding, but to take pictures. :keke: BTW, love the cape!


you cant be too careful when crossing the Delaware. thats dangerous waters!

[YankeeR6]

United States!!

[AliceInChains02]

i was thinking about this question when i read God and Generals. hard to decide, but i guess i lean towards america.

[Seth]

I'd be all for Texas.

[dotcom]

i would think we would be more worried about the towel head terrorist before we turn on each other....

ghey poll....



are you al queda or just plain terrorist... ???

vote now!

[Crystalline]

i would think we would be more worried about the towel head terrorist before we turn on each other....

ghey poll....



are you al queda or just plain terrorist... ???

vote now!


It's a Hypothetical question.

[BrutusTx]

United States!!

+1........I've lived a lot of places, Texas isn't the best or the worst. :eh:

[Crystalline]

+1........I've lived a lot of places, Texas isn't the best or the worst. :eh:


Is it the heat? Can you not handle the heat??:keke: :keke: jk.

[BrutusTx]

Is it the heat? Can you not handle the heat??:keke: :keke: jk.

Lived in Lake Havasu, Az for 2 years.........121 deg the first day I was there, building houses:eek3:
:laughing6 I don't mind the heat.......

[Crystalline]

Lived in Lake Havasu, Az for 2 years.........121 deg the first day I was there, building houses:eek3:
:laughing6 I don't mind the heat.......


Oh so you CAN handle the heat.:eek3:
Nice! This 93 degrees is making me lazy though.:nod:

[less_than_coop]

Texas. No doubt.

[Princess]

Texas.

[logan5]

I've lived in three different States ... but only one Country. My alligence is to the Flag and the Constitution

[Cherub]

United States!!

ya damn yankee.................

I say give it back to the indians. it was my peoples land first.

[Moody]

This would obviously depend on the reason for sucession. What intelligent person votes without hearing both sides? Oh wait... yall did. :keke:

[Azylum]

please read my FIRST post on this thread.

[NO MORE F4I]

where is the ireland vote? or australia

[Azylum]

where is the ireland vote? or australia


psssst....texas is in america......

[NO MORE F4I]

psssst....texas is in america......
yea but itsa not the best, america= not awesome, australia, now that country was kick ass

[NO MORE F4I]

psssst....texas is in america......
and why the hell wouldnt i know texas is in america

[Crystalline]

and why the hell wouldnt i know texas is in america


BWAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

[Azylum]

yea but itsa not the best, america= not awesome, australia, now that country was kick ass


what?!! ITS A PENAL COLONY!:laughing6

[NO MORE F4I]

what?!! ITS A PENAL COLONY!:laughing6
:angry7:

[cyclesnoopy]

whenever i am out of the country and am asked "where you from" i say TEXAS.

[IndyRC]

I've lived in TX for 6 months now and I don't really care much for it, but I do like the people a lot better than where I'm from.

[Azylum]

I've lived in TX for 6 months now and I don't really care much for it, but I do like the people a lot better than where I'm from.

its the heat and flat land, aint it?

[Azylum]

:angry7:

struth!

[Crystalline]

I've lived in TX for 6 months now and I don't really care much for it, but I do like the people a lot better than where I'm from.


Really? I'm starting to hate some of the people in Texas, well Houston. I love San Antonio and Tyler though.

[Moody]

please read my FIRST post on this thread.
Is there some secret decoding algorythm I should be using to get more information from your post? Again, it would depend on the reasons which you have given none and most intelligent people weigh both sides of the issue before making a decission. Carry On...

[Azylum]

i read an article about 7 or so years ago, i just want to know where this group stands. if texas were to secede from teh nation, and there were a civil war, are you a TEXAN or an AMERICAN. nothing deep to dwell on here, just a curiosity. ill state the rest of the article after i see a good vote.


:icon_thum

[somasoms]

http://soma.seekeng.org/soma

soma (http://soma.seekeng.org/soma/index.html)

[Azylum]

http://soma.seekeng.org/soma

soma (http://soma.seekeng.org/soma/index.html)

someone ban this f*cker.

[NO MORE F4I]

someone ban ^^this fugger

[hardcoresteve]

wow the voting is 75% texas!

[IndyRC]

its the heat and flat land, aint it?
The heat isn't so bad, but riding here really sucks. I moved here because I have family here and because I wanted to be able to ride all year. Well I can ride all year now, but it's just not as fun. Houston is better suited to cruisers, but damn I love my RC.

[IndyRC]

Really? I'm starting to hate some of the people in Texas, well Houston. I love San Antonio and Tyler though.
I haven't been to San Antonio or Tyler so I dunno about that. Anyway, people in Indiana aren't very friendly IMO. I never really noticed it until I moved to Wisconsin. They were really friendly, but damn it sure was cold there!

So yeah, I like the people here too. Of course most everybody I know is from MH and I just luv y'all! :laughing6

[Crystalline]

I haven't been to San Antonio or Tyler so I dunno about that. Anyway, people in Indiana aren't very friendly IMO. I never really noticed it until I moved to Wisconsin. They were really friendly, but damn it sure was cold there!

So yeah, I like the people here too. Of course most everybody I know is from MH and I just luv y'all! :laughing6


No No... Maine is cold.. I will NEVER EVER want to live there or anywhere up north. I went in the winter... :BangHead: I swear as soon as my ass got out the airplane, my skin cracked. I didn't even want to take a shower (I take like 3-4 a day because of my OCD.:angry7:

[YankeeR6]

I haven't been to San Antonio or Tyler so I dunno about that. Anyway, people in Indiana aren't very friendly IMO. I never really noticed it until I moved to Wisconsin. They were really friendly, but damn it sure was cold there!

So yeah, I like the people here too. Of course most everybody I know is from MH and I just luv y'all! :laughing6


Yea we know you love us.....especially the guys :keke:

[Flying Scot]

So...........................how do I answer this one???

[Azylum]

So...........................how do I answer this one???

just say texas you damn foreigner.:laughing6

[carlos flores]

MEXICO....OH I MEAN TEXAS ...YEAH TEXAS.....

[carlos flores]

na i was born in TEXAs and grew up here..so i will probably stay in TEXAS FOR EVER....I LOVE IT HERE

[IndyRC]

Yea we know you love us.....especially the guys :keke:
Why, what have you heard? :keke:

[ga_goosh]

Definately Texan. but it would still suck cuz there are so many cool spots in the rest of the states that we couldnt go to due to imigration. would a grandfather claus work in this situation?