How to crash

[50fool]

I searched the forums but I didn't find what I was looking for. I have been riding my gs500e for about 1.5 years but I haven't been in an accident thankfully. I wear my gear MOST of the time to be as safe as I can.

I just wanted to ask some of you who have crashed or who know about crashing......what is the best way to crash? Please give examples of a certain situation and what you should do. How should you position your hands and legs? Do you curl up on a ball or slightly curl up?

Please give specifics and possibly a story of how you crashed and what you did to minimize the damage. The best thing would be to avoid crashing obviously but it will eventually happen to most people so how do you make the best of a crash.

First and foremost, obviously wear your gear and follow the 50 tips listed in the sticky but what if something goes wrong and you go down? What do you do?

I have crashed my fiddy plenty of times but I normally just bust my ass onb a wheelie and sometimes I ghost ride it. Please discuss in term of big bikes and riding on the streets. Thanks a lot and ride safe.

[Somebody1010]

There are many ways to crash lol. It all depends on the situation. All of my crashes have been at the track. I have had 2 lowsides at about 40-50mph, only thing i did was let go of the bike and didnt get up till i stopped sliding. My other wreck was at 110mph, had a tank slapper. On that one i did not break my fall with my arms or anything, and once i hit the ground i did everything possible to not start flipping. If i would of started flipping i would of just tucked my arms so i did not do more damage to my self. Last, when you crash get the hell off the road/track so you do not get run over.

[Romeo36]

^^ pretty much sums it up. do what you can to not roll or flip thats when shit starts to hurt. go practice sliding on your ass down a hill and keep from rolling or diiging into the grass. (a grassy hill not concrete) it would have to be a steep hill

[nutmegchoi]

When it comes to crash, it's not easy to teach and learn.
In that kind of situation (when everything happens so fast), your body will do what it's natural.
If you play a lot of sports, it really helps (most the time, you learn how to fall).
You can only try to remember to keep your limbs together if you are rolling and keep your head up if you are sliding over your back.
Crash teaches you a lot of things about your riding and your bike (IF you can remember).
I suggest you to learn that from riding mini or dirt, before on the street or track.

[hotnanas]

i owe most of my walking out fine from crashes to my orthopedic surgeon and physical terrorist...all my metal pins hold me together.

as far as crashing...there's not a whole lot of time to set yourself up for the landing between knowing-you're-about-to-crash and the actual crash...the other day i had my first highside: i just remember hand stand...air time...impact. I had no control of the body, and this was at about 20 mph.

on the lowside in my signature, i just did a baseball slide on my left side and then did a little roll when i hit the grass...even at 20 mph you really can't do much...you just kinda hit the ground in whatever position you are in at the time, and eventually stop.

in some of my dirtbike crashes i had time to bail from the bike and spot my landing...but from my experience...if you bail from the bike, you are probably going to be seeing your orthopedic surgeon and physical therapist again.

[nutmegchoi]

Seriously.
Learn Judo.
It's an accellent martial art which teaches you how to fall/land.
At the beginning, that's all you learn.

http://www.martial-arts-info.com/111/judo/

[Moody]

This has to be the wierdest thread ever. How about... try not to highside. Being tossed 20 ft in the air, doing a half gainer and landing on your back hurts. Avoid solid objects. Suddenly stopping will kill you. The clincher... more often your bike will do more then what you think it will or what you currently have the skill to do. So, lean... in my opinion I would rather lowside then many other scenarios. Have Fun!

[RogerT]

Pray really fast

[Mr. Unassailable]

HPD Clayton The Crash Artist needs to come out of retirement I see...

For Crashing lessons just pm me :icon_bigg, $100 / night. you will start off on my phiddy then you can use my F4i and I will teach you how to crash like a pro.

[BigComfy]

HPD Clayton The Crash Artist needs to come out of retirement I see...

For Crashing lessons just pm me :icon_bigg, $100 / night. you will start off on my phiddy then you can use my F4i and I will teach you how to crash like a pro.
Actually sounds like a pretty good deal

[nutmegchoi]

$100 and get to total his bike?
Hell, yeah!
:icon_thum

[CaJuNsOuLjA]

Seriously.
Learn Judo.
It's an accellent martial art which teaches you how to fall/land.
At the beginning, that's all you learn.

http://www.martial-arts-info.com/111/judo/

+1...first few weeks (months with some instructors) for anyone beginning Judo is falling. One thing you always want to remember is to distribute any impact to as much of your body as is possible (hence why most Judo folks tend to slap the ground) so that that energy is absorbe to the widest area. When energy is absorbed by smaller areas, stuff starts to go "crack"...

[Moody]

Oh, get involved with TMGP so you can get lots of practice. :laughing6

[CarbonJames]

Oh, get involved with TMGP so you can get lots of practice. :laughing6

:icon_thum we've all had lots of practice crashing in TMGP. like i always say, you gotta practice crashing also, its good to know how to crash! Plus its sometimes fun to crash on the minis...

[Mr. Unassailable]

$100 and get to total his bike?
Hell, yeah!
:icon_thum

blah.. you saw me crash it 3 times at la hac. that night :nod: its a honda, with crash protection :nod:

[Mr. Unassailable]

Actually sounds like a pretty good deal

i got ins. on my stunt bike.. :icon_bigg

[FireMalt]

in some of my dirtbike crashes i had time to bail from the bike and spot my landing...but from my experience...if you bail from the bike, you are probably going to be seeing your orthopedic surgeon and physical therapist again.
+1

Ride that shit out, and see what the bike does...

[Mr. Unassailable]

+1

Ride that shit out, and see what the bike does...


def. ride it out. try to slow down as much as you can b4 you hit the ground. and if you can use your bike as a bob sled do so :nod: :icon_bigg

[Faylaricia]

Seriously.
Learn Judo.
It's an accellent martial art which teaches you how to fall/land.
At the beginning, that's all you learn.

http://www.martial-arts-info.com/111/judo/

Now that would be something to watch.

Bike starts bucking, rider jumps up, manages to push off the bike with one foot, does a double-flip in the air and comes straight down on both of his feet. Maybe we should ask Jackie Chan for some lessons. :laughing6

[Mr. Unassailable]

Now that would be something to watch.

Bike starts bucking, rider jumps up, manages to push off the bike with one foot, does a double-flip in the air and comes straight down on both of his feet. Maybe we should ask Jackie Chan for some lessons. :laughing6
:nod: stunt crashing. :laughing6

[Brena23]

You wanna know how to crash go watch clayton one night he will teach you well.... He is an expert at it :keke:

[Mr. Unassailable]

werd. they got like 3 or 4 of me in the new video.

[Mr. Unassailable]

go to the end of the new video and check out the highchair crash.. i think i did pretty good. :nod:

[Brena23]

werd. they got like 3 or 4 of me in the new video.


Wouldn't know cause I cant get it to download without locking my puter up :crying:

[50fool]

Thanks for the advise. All this talking about sliding definitely makes me want to buy some extra protection.

[Brena23]

Be a good idea..

[pester]

HPD Clayton The Crash Artist needs to come out of retirement I see...

For Crashing lessons just pm me :icon_bigg, $100 / night. you will start off on my phiddy then you can use my F4i and I will teach you how to crash like a pro.

how much for learning how to wheelie? and will i get a MH discount??

[bigjay77]

theres a chapter on "how to crash" in twist of the wrist 1
:icon_bigg

good reading too

[level5]

spread your arms and legs out to slow down the speed if it breaks it at least it is repairable. J/K.
It is hard to say or explain what to do in each case. Some low side still ended up tumbling. Best bet is to keep your eyes open and see what is going on. Like VFR-racer said, keep your mind and body in good condition would help alot in recovering injuries. Always stretch before go out on the session.

[1FastMF]

Ummmm DON'T !!!!! :icon_thum :icon_thum

[Mr. Unassailable]

how much for learning how to wheelie? and will i get a MH discount??
:topsecret talk to ya next time i see you. :icon_thum :nod:

[Buck Nasty]

according to haner.. he says keep yoru arms up in the air and slide on your back, when u tuck or cross your arms or somethign thats when you start rolling and tumbling. dont remember too well but when i highsided and came to a stop i was hugging a cone heh

[Paradox]

Ummmm DON'T !!!!! :icon_thum :icon_thum

Total agreement here!

[NO MORE F4I]

didnt know there was a proper way to crash

[sbfuller]

i just did crash, got rear ended, i was stopped, got hit by a car doing about 30. i didn't realize what happened but i knew i wanted to try to saty on the bike. that is what i've done when i've gone down 1 other time on an enduro doing about 50. I ended up sitting on the bike while it slid, got up and walked away with very few very minor scratches. the way i see it if you can stay on top of the bike then you aren't on the ground and the bike can't land on top of you

[Gixxer Geezer]

Put all your gear on.. ride your bicycle down the road as fast as you can. go into the grass and jump off... that is a very slow impact fall. and gives you an idea of what it is like...

[level5]

Put all your gear on.. ride your bicycle down the road as fast as you can. go into the grass and jump off... that is a very slow impact fall. and gives you an idea of what it is like...
Doesn't matter how fast you fall that could do some damage but it is how you fall determined the damages.

[Fight The Chaos]

Taking martial arts will only enhance your ability to react faster in these situations. When you learn to fall, it becomes a habit and you dont even think about how you fall, but the damage is minimalized so much people ask if it hurts or think i'm hiding my pain. So in a way, yea, its good to take either judo or shaolin style....both are very good and recommended.

The idea is to fall in a contour like way and roll with the momentum thats being passed on to you to minimize damage. NEVER LAND with your tail bone dead on first, always either slightly to the left or right. Visualize it, then execute.

Make sure you always grip your legs in a knot-like shape without tightening up the muscles.....and hug yourself or raise your arms up when you start rolling. make sure you always roll, it helps alot if you look how you fall, its hard to look but dont close your eyes.

You can also try not falling :keke:

[paniro187]

i would try yoga

[Duck84]

didnt know there was a proper way to crash

me neither
:eh:

[50fool]

What should you do incase of a highslide (besides prey to God). Is it best to land on your back/ass and ust try to slide. Definitely dont want to land on your head....maybe just land on your shoulder then slide? Low slide is pretty self explanitory but a high slide is a whole different ballpark.

[level5]

What should you do incase of a highslide (besides prey to God). Is it best to land on your back/ass and ust try to slide. Definitely dont want to land on your head....maybe just land on your shoulder then slide? Low slide is pretty self explanitory but a high slide is a whole different ballpark.
In case of high sided, try to land on your feet of course but if it is not possible then just pray that you will come out with nothing broken.

[Mr. Unassailable]

What should you do incase of a highslide (besides prey to God). Is it best to land on your back/ass and ust try to slide. Definitely dont want to land on your head....maybe just land on your shoulder then slide? Low slide is pretty self explanitory but a high slide is a whole different ballpark.

try to land on all 4's like a cat, it will allow you to cushion the fall (from the throw of the highside) then roll as much as you can to limit road rash.

[misery]

try to land on all 4's like a cat, it will allow you to cushion the fall (from the throw of the highside) then roll as much as you can to limit road rash.

I did that once and now I have 2 pins in my wrist...

[Mr. Unassailable]

I did that once and now I have 2 pins in my wrist...
better than having a rib in a lung or plates in your hip b/c you didnt cushion that fall. :icon_thum my wrists and ankles are not the best, but other than that my body is good, and i fall alot.

[Dub_B83]

I just go with the flow... I landed on my shoulder on a highside (unaviodable) and got a broken collar bone to show for it. Most of the time there isn't alot of time to react. So you just got to remember not to let your arms and legs go wild and try to roll as much and as soon as possible...

[knee_dragger]

All this martial arts BS isn't gonna help at all. We are learning to fall from a 30-60mph crash not from martial arts! Best way to learn how to fall will be on a dirtbike or better yet a 50. I busted my ass numerous of time on my fifty(20-30mph) and learn new ways not to hurt myself ass bad everytime.

[hotnanas]

i've learned everything I know from riding BMX and jumping on trampolines...ok maybe I didn't learn much from trampolines...

[level5]

All this martial arts BS isn't gonna help at all. We are learning to fall from a 30-60mph crash not from martial arts! Best way to learn how to fall will be on a dirtbike or better yet a 50. I busted my ass numerous of time on my fifty(20-30mph) and learn new ways not to hurt myself ass bad everytime.
Gotta learn like the master in The Matrix.:nod:






























:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6
J/K Hell is no way anyone can tell you how to fall unless you have a reflex of a cat and land on all four or two whatever the case maybe.:dontknow:

[Mr. Unassailable]

practice makes perfect.. so start crashing more and you'll learn.

[CombatM0NKEY]

Wouldn't know cause I cant get it to download without locking my puter up :crying:

wanna buy a new "PUTER"? =) 200$ i'll make it fast for u..

[CombatM0NKEY]

according to haner.. he says keep yoru arms up in the air and slide on your back, when u tuck or cross your arms or somethign thats when you start rolling and tumbling. dont remember too well but when i highsided and came to a stop i was hugging a cone heh

:rofl: didn't open your eyes long enough to see?

[CombatM0NKEY]

Put all your gear on.. ride your bicycle down the road as fast as you can. go into the grass and jump off... that is a very slow impact fall. and gives you an idea of what it is like...

stand on the bike.. and ram it to a gutter.. u'll fly off ... get up.. do it again.

[CombatM0NKEY]

In case of high sided, try to land on your feet of course but if it is not possible then just pray that you will come out with nothing broken.

get a parachute. :angel10:

[hypertrophyy]

I searched the forums but I didn't find what I was looking for. I have been riding my gs500e for about 1.5 years but I haven't been in an accident thankfully. I wear my gear MOST of the time to be as safe as I can.

I just wanted to ask some of you who have crashed or who know about crashing......what is the best way to crash? Please give examples of a certain situation and what you should do. How should you position your hands and legs? Do you curl up on a ball or slightly curl up?

Please give specifics and possibly a story of how you crashed and what you did to minimize the damage. The best thing would be to avoid crashing obviously but it will eventually happen to most people so how do you make the best of a crash.

First and foremost, obviously wear your gear and follow the 50 tips listed in the sticky but what if something goes wrong and you go down? What do you do?

I have crashed my fiddy plenty of times but I normally just bust my ass onb a wheelie and sometimes I ghost ride it. Please discuss in term of big bikes and riding on the streets. Thanks a lot and ride safe.


If you know you going down for sure.... and have tim to bail. Tuck into a cannonball so you either bounce or roll with the flow.... just make sure to tuck your head as far in between your lags as possible. This has save me so many times.

Either go for that.... or do the superman! With one arm out. If you going to hit hard. Do it in style :thumb:

[J-Row]

i've been down once and i just slide on my back for a lil while. Of course i was wearing leathers.

[djnos]

not really much you can do it happens to fast, most peeps dont even know it till there airborne, and when that happens your body will naturally use its spinal reflexes to keep you out of danger, like you throw'n your hands out in front of you, now a lowside you can prepare for

[GsxrStar]

drop, tuck and roll?

[rob78]

or check the vid in my sig, that shows you how, lol

[tschreck]

12 years of Downhill snow skiing all over the world and I still can't answer this question for you. Just happy I'm still alive but snow is easier to crash in than concrete or dirt. Everyone learns differently of course with SPEED & Gravity it take time. Always rotate the body towards your back facing the pavement trying to keep you arms and legs up. Back protectors are a must. Go water sking and wear the back protector, helmet and have the boat run 50-100mph. Let go of the rope as many times until you develop you own style.

There is a Technique. First you will have to learn to wash my bike. Then paint my house. Damnyouson

[andrave]

my experience with crashing is that you can talk/walk yourself through it 100 times but in real life when it happens, it happens so fast there isn't time to think about your hands or rolling or anything. youre like "save it save it save it" and youre thinknig about how you can save this, then the next thing you know you hit the ground and it feels like getting hit by a car, basically. you'll probably roll a little bit if you've got any speed at all gathered up, its really hard not to... the only way to stop yourself would be to stick our your limbs, which in a roll is prolly a good way to break em. If you can actually think during the slide (ie, if youre still sliding and your mind is clear enough to think about what to do) put your weight whereever you have the most armor... knuckles of gloves, boots, plastic elbow armor. whatever.

IMO the best way to plan through the crash is to dress for the crash. usually wearing gear won't cut it. I ALWAYS wear gear, and my one real bad lay down I was wearing T shirt and jeans and a helmet and gloves... I got tore up a bit, but if I hadn't had on helmet and gloves I would have been in the hospital for sure.
I usually keep my wallet and cell phone in a little triple tree bag. well the night I layed it down I landed on my chest and they were in my front pockets of my jeans...thankfully my krazr didn't break, but I still have big knots and dark tissue left over from bruises where my money clip hit my left leg and my cell phone my right leg, and my lay down was a long time ago.

My nike's wore through (wasn't wearing my boots) and I banged up my left ankle real bad (still is sore).

basically if I would have had my coat and boots on I would have prolly had no damage to me. now I have real nasty scars on my arms and my legs are still healing.

[Mr. Unassailable]

welcome back thread, i didnt see you there.

as previously stated .. like 3 months ago when this thread was made.. I will totally give crashing lessons to anyone that wants them. and you can use my stunt bike. costs can be discussed for this class im PMs :D

[hypertrophyy]

!

[hypertrophyy]

12 years of Downhill snow skiing all over the world and I still can't answer this question for you. Just happy I'm still alive but snow is easier to crash in than concrete or dirt. Everyone learns differently of course with SPEED & Gravity it take time. Always rotate the body towards your back facing the pavement trying to keep you arms and legs up. Back protectors are a must. Go water sking and wear the back protector, helmet and have the boat run 50-100mph. Let go of the rope as many times until you develop you own style.

There is a Technique. First you will have to learn to wash my bike. Then paint my house. Damnyouson

wtf.....lol!!

[level5]

What helps on the fall is losing all the excess weight. If you are light as a feather, you will land like one. Too much weight will guaranteed broken bones.

[NoFear]

So your saying the more you weight the harder you'll hit the ground?

What helps on the fall is losing all the excess weight. If you are light as a feather, you will land like one. Too much weight will guaranteed broken bones.

[RACER X]

there's truth to that. also the better shape your in the less minor injuries you'll sustain.

[andrave]

I like to wrap myself in bubble wrap before I go for a ride.

[level5]

So your saying the more you weight the harder you'll hit the ground?

:nod:

Haven't you heard the bigger they are the harder they fall?

[GABRIEL]

I like to wrap myself in bubble wrap before I go for a ride.

That might work. I need to find some bubble wrap first.

[FlipSideUp]

:nod:

Haven't you heard the bigger they are the harder they fall?

Very true. There's a big difference between a 5'-8" 165# guy in good physical shape falling, compared to a 5'-8" 225# guy who's overweight and out of shape falling hard off a laydown. Then again, the same can be said when comparing the former to a 5'-8" 125# bony guy falling off at speed... chances are he'll break some bones, too!!

So it just comes down to... the better physical shape and condition you're in, the better you'll fare in a crash.

[level5]

Very true. There's a big difference between a 5'-8" 165# guy in good physical shape falling, compared to a 5'-8" 225# guy who's overweight and out of shape falling hard off a laydown. Then again, the same can be said when comparing the former to a 5'-8" 125# bony guy falling off at speed... chances are he'll break some bones, too!!

So it just comes down to... the better physical shape and condition you're in, the better you'll fare in a crash.

:nod:

[Urandaman]

just watch you tube on motorcycle wrecks/accidents where its ama and moto gp racers wrecking... and then watch the ones on the street. ha who ever gets up sooner.. crash like them

[FlipSideUp]

BTW, with all this said, it's not so much how to fall and position your body when or if you do crash in the streets. That's really the least of your worries. It's the other things you have to worry about... like concrete curbs, light poles, trees, other vehicles, etc. Those are the things that will really cause some serious bodily damage if your unlucky enough to have any of those in your line of trajectory, not so much the fall itself.

[level5]

BTW, with all this said, it's not so much how to fall and position your body when or if you do crash in the streets. That's really the least of your worries. It's the other things you have to worry about... like concrete curbs, light poles, trees, other vehicles, etc. Those are the things that will really cause some serious bodily damage if your unlucky enough to have any of those in your line of trajectory, not so much the fall itself.

+1
that is why track is safer to go fast than on the street.

[NoFear]

who said anything about speeding on the street? why does it always come down to Track vs Street? I dont hate on track guys or Street Guys or guys that ride bicycles in the street. I dont understand how your comment is relavent. No one is asking how to plan a crash at 186mph on the street lets get back on topic and leave the track vs street debate on a different thread

+1
that is why track is safer to go fast than on the street.

[hotnanas]

who said anything about speeding on the street? why does it always come down to Track vs Street? I dont hate on track guys or Street Guys or guys that ride bicycles in the street. I dont understand how your comment is relavent. No one is asking how to plan a crash at 186mph on the street lets get back on topic and leave the track vs street debate on a different thread

because you have a lot more runoff on the track. it's plain and simple to see that it is safer to crash while attempting to "go fast" or even "go slow" on the track vs. the street.

if you crash on the street, there are backslopes of ditches, curbs, poles, trees, fire hydrants, cars and other vehicles, mailboxes, and this list can go on and on. I doubt he was saying track people are better, or even trying to stir up a debate.

[NoFear]

Hmmm perhaps you did not see the seems like a lot of people wreck at the track. Now explain to me this runoff for these folks. Seems to me if your bike falls while you are in your driveway on the street or the track (with the runoff) its going to hurt. And each time you ride you face this risk dont matter if its on the street the track the backroads at a dealership on their slippery floors. so I say :gesture: falling is all the same whereever you go so get over it.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36484

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33244


because you have a lot more runoff on the track. it's plain and simple to see that it is safer to crash while attempting to "go fast" or even "go slow" on the track vs. the street.

if you crash on the street, there are backslopes of ditches, curbs, poles, trees, fire hydrants, cars and other vehicles, mailboxes, and this list can go on and on. I doubt he was saying track people are better, or even trying to stir up a debate.

[Capafool]

Hmmm perhaps you did not see the seems like a lot of people wreck at the track. Now explain to me this runoff for these folks. Seems to me if your bike falls while you are in your driveway on the street or the track (with the runoff) its going to hurt. And each time you ride you face this risk dont matter if its on the street the track the backroads at a dealership on their slippery floors. so I say :gesture: falling is all the same whereever you go so get over it.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36484

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33244

You're definitely wrong about that last sentence. Its not the fall that hurts, its the impact. The falling can happen at anytime whether you're on street or track, that's definitely true and can't be denied. But would you rather slide and tumble and roll till you come to a stop? or would you rather slide and get stopped by slamming into a sidewalk or post or anyone of the things that you can slam into out on the street? If anyone still thinks it makes no difference, they're not very bright :thumb:

[level5]

who said anything about speeding on the street? why does it always come down to Track vs Street? I dont hate on track guys or Street Guys or guys that ride bicycles in the street. I dont understand how your comment is relavent. No one is asking how to plan a crash at 186mph on the street lets get back on topic and leave the track vs street debate on a different thread

At this speed on the street crashing will guaranteed to plan for a funeral.

Any suggestion on your part on falling besides nick picking what was said?

[level5]

so I say :gesture: falling is all the same whereever you go so get over it.
http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36484

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33244

Have you ridden the track?

[NoFear]

Where is Racer X I think that I need some MSF :rofl:

I think that I would rather not fall off the bike at the track, in the street, in the garage, stunting in the park in lot, you name the place. I would rather just keep the shinny side up and the rubber side down. most times the impact does not hurt because you body shuts off you pain receptors for a bit its the next day and a few hours/ minutes later when you adrenaline comes down that it starts to hurt like a mutha. Or at least that has been my personal experience. Unless you break a bone or you have a bone sticking out of your flesh. Then you gonna start freak out, big time :eek3:
I dont know about that guarantee of a funeral, you could live your quality of life may decrease 100% you could be a vegetable or something but you would be alive.

At this speed on the street crashing will guaranteed to plan for a funeral.

Any suggestion on your part on falling besides nick picking what was said?